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Georgia gun range will have bar serving alcohol

After a long day of shooting a cold beer sounds good to me.

Just innovation at work in the marketplace. If you guys dont like innovation then get out of merica already.
 
After a long day of shooting a cold beer sounds good to me.

Just innovation at work in the marketplace. If you guys dont like innovation then get out of merica already.

What if you drink and shoot. Someone gets a little too much to drink, spills something bad about another mans wife. Man can't control his anger. He shoots drunk fellow.
 
Brown sent WSB-TV a statement clarifying that once someone has ordered a drink in the lounge, they will not be permitted to enter the firing range:

"Customers will have to order a drink with their identification card and once the card is accepted, and flagged, they cannot be checked back into the range that day," the statement reads.

Not sure what the problem is.

After a long day of shooting a cold beer sounds good to me.

Just innovation at work in the marketplace. If you guys dont like innovation then get out of merica already.

Groan... you realize that just makes you sound like a fucking retard?
 
That doesn't make much sense. You shouldn't be mixing alcohol and firearms. "OK, no shooting after you drink." Well, fine, but once you finish shooting, don't you typically leave the range? Load up your guns and ammo, toss it in the car, then pound a beer before you hit the road... So this is either encouraging drinking and shooting (bad) or drinking and driving (also bad). There's really no reason to have alcohol at a gun range.
 
That doesn't make much sense. You shouldn't be mixing alcohol and firearms. "OK, no shooting after you drink." Well, fine, but once you finish shooting, don't you typically leave the range? Load up your guns and ammo, toss it in the car, then pound a beer before you hit the road... So this is either encouraging drinking and shooting (bad) or drinking and driving (also bad). There's really no reason to have alcohol at a gun range.

Well, shoot, there goes the entire business model for bars.
 
Well, shoot, there goes the entire business model for bars.
Most people don't bring an arsenal with them to the bar. I have a couple friends who are former military, like to shoot and love to drink. But they don't mix the two. They grab their gear, head to the range or the quarry, fire off a few thousand rounds, truck their gear back home, clean it and put it away, then they go bar-hopping and get plastered. Some things just don't mix, and I'd say that anyone who is a serious shooter will tell you that firearms and alcohol are on that list.

-EDIT- Bars are also frequently found in or near residential areas specifically because it makes it easier to access them without having to drive. There are literally zero shooting ranges within a five mile radius of where I live. Shooting ranges are almost exclusively accessed by car since people tend to carry quite a bit of gear and ammunition with them when they go. They aren't convenient for foot traffic in the same way that bars are.
 
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Most people don't bring an arsenal with them to the bar. I have a couple friends who are former military, like to shoot and love to drink. But they don't mix the two. They grab their gear, head to the range or the quarry, fire off a few thousand rounds, truck their gear back home, clean it and put it away, then they go bar-hopping and get plastered. Some things just don't mix, and I'd say that anyone who is a serious shooter will tell you that firearms and alcohol are on that list.

-EDIT- Bars are also frequently found in or near residential areas specifically because it makes it easier to access them without having to drive. There are literally zero shooting ranges within a five mile radius of where I live. Shooting ranges are almost exclusively accessed by car since people tend to carry quite a bit of gear and ammunition with them when they go. They aren't convenient for foot traffic in the same way that bars are.

If you're done shooting and the guns are put away I don't see the problem with serving alcohol.
 
If you're done shooting and the guns are put away I don't see the problem with serving alcohol.
I'm less concerned about the gun aspect, honestly. My bigger issue is that people tend to drive to gun clubs, not walk. And I don't want to encourage people to have a drink or two before they get behind the wheel. It's just irresponsible. Granted, you'll see that with all sorts of venues; bars, pool halls, gambling parlors, poker games, casinos, vineyards and any number of places where people are likely to drink. But there's no real reason to add a bar on to a firing range. Why not just make it a separate place next door? It takes away most of the arguments against its existence by making it a separate entity, and the gun club doesn't appear to be encouraging reckless behavior by having it on the premises.
 
I'm less concerned about the gun aspect, honestly. My bigger issue is that people tend to drive to gun clubs, not walk. And I don't want to encourage people to have a drink or two before they get behind the wheel. It's just irresponsible. Granted, you'll see that with all sorts of venues; bars, pool halls, gambling parlors, poker games, casinos, vineyards and any number of places where people are likely to drink. But there's no real reason to add a bar on to a firing range. Why not just make it a separate place next door? It takes away most of the arguments against its existence by making it a separate entity, and the gun club doesn't appear to be encouraging reckless behavior by having it on the premises.

Like I said, I don't see how this is any different than most other establishments that serve alcohol.
 
That doesn't make much sense. You shouldn't be mixing alcohol and firearms. "OK, no shooting after you drink." Well, fine, but once you finish shooting, don't you typically leave the range? Load up your guns and ammo, toss it in the car, then pound a beer before you hit the road... So this is either encouraging drinking and shooting (bad) or drinking and driving (also bad). There's really no reason to have alcohol at a gun range.

1. You have to throw out the drinking and driving argument otherwise every single place that serves alcohol falls under this rule - Example: Why do restaurants serve alcohol? Don't people drive there to eat, then hop in their car and drive home?

2. Drinking is done after you shoot. From what I've seen at most ranges they are very strict about things. Typically most people who come to a range are either very careful with their weapons and respect their weapons, they come with someone who is, or they are told very quickly by the staff/regulars that they are no longer welcome. Most ranges (especially one like this under scrutiny) aren't a bunch of drunken rednecks showing up popping off with AK47s and playing banjos. They are normally very professional and smart people. So they can't drink before they shoot, and I'm not worried about a shootout in the parking lot after guys drink b/c of the normal clientele of a range. Plus you are probably less likely to start a gunfight when you know everyone else has a gun too 😉
 
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Like I said, I don't see how this is any different than most other establishments that serve alcohol.
The difference is that at any other establishment that serves alcohol, you can get the alcohol while engaging in the activities offered by the venue. If I go to a theater that serves alcohol, I can drink while I watch a show. If I go to a pool hall that serves alcohol, I can drink while I play pool. If I go to a casino that serves alcohol, I can drink while I gamble. If I go to a bowling alley that serves alcohol, I can drink while I bowl. There's an arcade here in town that lets me drink while I play arcade games; pretty groovy, right? So why would a place start serving alcohol when you expressly cannot use it while making use of their primary facilities? You don't see a restaurant telling you, "OK, you can start drinking, but we can't serve you any food after you start." It doesn't make sense to offer booze as a service when it makes your primary reason for existing inaccessible.
 
1. You have to throw out the drinking and driving argument otherwise every single place that serves alcohol falls under this rule - Example: Why do restaurants serve alcohol? Don't people drive there to eat, then hop in their car and drive home?

2. Drinking is done after you shoot.
#2 is what makes #1 a concern for me. If I go to a pool hall and have a drink, they don't make me stop playing pool; I still have something to entertain myself while I sober up. If you drink at the gun range and they don't let you back in, what are you going to do, sit around at the bar drinking water? Maybe you would because you're a socially responsible fellow, as we all are on ATOT, but your average patron probably isn't going to take that extra time twiddling their thumbs. Add in the fact that firing ranges are often not in residential areas and people carry a lot of equipment to them and it makes it more likely that people are driving there (and thus going to be driving home) as compared to bars which are often found in or near residential areas (and can be easily walked to/from). It doesn't add up in my mind.

Don't get me wrong, I can understand the appeal of a nice refreshing beer after a round of shooting, I'm just questioning putting the bar in the exact same establishment. Make people go home, clean and store their equipment properly and then go out to get a drink. It's better for the equipment and it discourages drinking and driving.
 
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