Generosity Index 2005

[Czar]

Originally posted by: Genx87
I dont know how accurate it is but it is interesting to note blue states lack of generosity.
Now before liberals jump down my throat let me offer your a possible reason for this.

Blue states are typically higher taxed than red states and thus the disposable income of people is lower. Like we have seen in the EU when the state takes over the charity through taxation, when people are taxed they rarely have enough to give on their own.

Unsurprisingly when people arent taxed through the roof they tend to give more on their own.

excelent post :thumbsup:

apart from that blue state lack of generosity, but how charity is distributed is spot on

 

[miketheidiot]

Originally posted by: Genx87

Originally posted by: conjur

Originally posted by: ShadesOfGrey

Originally posted by: conjur
We've been over this before (a year or so ago?)

Tithing by the people of the Christian faith, imo, isn't giving to charity. The church needs to cover its expenses and does so via the weekly offerings.

Compare true charitable donations (which, arguably, would be rather difficult) and then let's talk.

This uses Charitable Deductions from the IRS data. You can try to drop numbers from it if you wish but you can make that argument for just about anything. Take away X and the result will be different than the original Y.

BTW, other charities use donations for operating expenses too, do you want to exclude all those too?

What is the main purpose of a church? Is it for charity or is it for the spiritual education and growth of its congregation?

And then, what is the main purpose of a charity? Uhhhh...

That is a good question, take for instance Farm Aid. They took in a little over a million dollars in donations and ended up with about 850K in expenses leaving abotu 200K for charity.

I think using the argument that Churches have expenses and thus are not a worthy charity is silly.

The Church I used to go to ended up running up a few million in debt because it was sending moeny to inner city youth programs, soup kitchens, overseas to poor people in other countries.

a church is not a charity anymore than wallmart is.

 

[miketheidiot]

Originally posted by: daniel49
deducts the donations out from the aclu and watch the blue states disappear:Q

how about the nra then?

 

[sdifox]

Huh? NRA is not a charity is it? That would be truly skrewed up if it is registered as one. Next on the agenda, buy a box of hollow points and we donate 1 dollar to the NRA...

Originally posted by: miketheidiot

Originally posted by: daniel49
deducts the donations out from the aclu and watch the blue states disappear:Q

how about the nra then?

 

[AreaCode707]

For those of you debating what ought to define a charity, it still doesn't change the amount people are "giving". Apparently some of the red states "give" more than some of the blue, regardless of what they are giving to.

Off topic: I hope the media switches red/blue around next election, just to confuse things. 😀

 

[arsbanned]

Originally posted by: RightIsWrong
It is pretty easy to say that the folks in Mass have a Median Income of $75,000 but only give $3000/avg while the fine folks in Miss have a Median Income of $40,000 and give $5000/avg. thus making the Mississippians much more gracious and the Massachussetians (or whatever they are called) as more greedy.

It should take into account that the average cost of a home in Jackson, Miss is $118.1k and in Boston it is $389.7k.

Metro area home prices

Occasionally we call then "massholes", expecially when it comes to their driving style. 😛
No offense to my MA brothers and sisters, I'm sure you have a few choice names for Mainers, especially when getting stuck behind one of us on the streets of Boston. 😉

 

[conjur]

Originally posted by: HotChic
For those of you debating what ought to define a charity, it still doesn't change the amount people are "giving". Apparently some of the red states "give" more than some of the blue, regardless of what they are giving to.

Off topic: I hope the media switches red/blue around next election, just to confuse things. 😀

But the difference is what good is that money going to? If the majority of the Southerner's money is going to maintain churches' existences, then who is benefitting? People in need? I would argue no. While churches do some charitable work, most of the offering money goes to maintain the church's existence and goes up the chain to the church's parent organization (Presbyterian, Catholic, etc.)

The study is not a valid indicator of any region of the country being more charitable than another and certainly not a valid indicator of any political parties' charitable nature.

 

[OneOfTheseDays]

this thread is the most useless flamebait i've ever seen. i'm surprised the mods haven't locked this up. seriously, what are you trying to prove OP? just because you donate to charity DOES NOT make you a good person. your so completely partisan that you create stupid troll threads like this just to make yourself feel better because you think Republicans are better people than Democrats are. I feel sorry for everyone who has wasted time participating in this thread, it is utterly useless (as is the OP).

 

[Strk]

Originally posted by: arsbanned

Originally posted by: RightIsWrong
It is pretty easy to say that the folks in Mass have a Median Income of $75,000 but only give $3000/avg while the fine folks in Miss have a Median Income of $40,000 and give $5000/avg. thus making the Mississippians much more gracious and the Massachussetians (or whatever they are called) as more greedy.

It should take into account that the average cost of a home in Jackson, Miss is $118.1k and in Boston it is $389.7k.

Metro area home prices

Occasionally we call then "massholes", expecially when it comes to their driving style. 😛
No offense to my MA brothers and sisters, I'm sure you have a few choice names for Mainers, especially when getting stuck behind one of us on the streets of Boston. 😉

Something that you could go do to a moose comes to mind 😉