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Head1985

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So your saying the 4890, 5780, 6970, and 7970 was their mid range?

Please go back and read Anandtech reviews for the 5870,6970 and 7970 and come back and let me know if they were high end.
Yes it was their mid range.It was time with AMDs small die strategy...
4870
5870
6970
7970
all bellow 400mm2
AMd was way ahead of NV before kepler so they compete with small dies vs NV big HIGH-end dies.When kepler launched all changes and Nv was way ahead of AMD because 294mm2 GTX680 beat 350mm2 7970 so AMd was forced make BIG dies like NV
Also 5years on 28nm didnt help amd with small die strategy.Small die strategy is pretty much dead without new nodes.
 
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happy medium

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Yes it was their mid range.It was time with AMDs small die strategy...
4870
5870
6970
7970
all bellow 400mm2
AMd was way ahead of NV before kepler so they compete with small dies vs NV big HIGH-end dies.When kepler launched all changes and Nv was way ahead of AMD because 294mm2 GTX680 beat 350mm2 7970 so AMd was forced make BIG dies like NV
Also 5years on 28nm didnt help amd with small die strategy.Small die strategy is pretty much dead without new nodes.


Can someone please explain to this guy what is the high end....He thinks ahhhh never mind, he must be trolling.
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Head1985

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Can someone please explain to this guy what is the high end....He thinks ahhhh never mind, he must be trolling.
I don't want another vacation and I'm losing my patients.
good day and happy new year.
One more time for you
7770-123mm2 28nm - rx460-123mm2 14nm gp107 competitor
7870-212mm2 28nm - rx480-232mm2 14nm gp106 competitor
7970-350mm2 28nm - Small vega +-350mm2??? 14nm GP104 competitor
290x-440mm2 28nm - big vega +-440mm2??? 14nm GP102 competitor
Furyx-600mm2 28nm- dont know maybe if we are stuck on 14nm 5years like on 28nm 600mm2 SKU will be released BIG GV102(volta) competitor

This whole debate is absurt.This is pretty much how are perf tiers 28 vs 14nm on AMD side.Dont compare 40nm vs 40nm or 28nm vs 28nm.
 

Elfear

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The point of my post is that you exaggerating your opinion based on 2 games (no demo's) that heavily favor AMD.
In no way is a Fury X in the same class as a gtx1070, unless you base your facts on 2 out of 100 games.
Lets not even mention the Fury has only 4gb of memory, uses 2x the power which will toast your case and mabe even your room, and overclocks like crap.

I'm not sure what your definition of "class" is, but they certainly compete in what most people would consider the same class.

1440p: 1070 is 12% faster
perfrel_2560_1440.png


4k: 1070 is 3% faster
perfrel_3840_2160.png


Granted the 1070 is the more elegant solution with better efficiency and better overclocking potential but they compete in the same class.
 

bystander36

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Yes it was their mid range.It was time with AMDs small die strategy...
4870
5870
6970
7970
all bellow 400mm2
AMd was way ahead of NV before kepler so they compete with small dies vs NV big HIGH-end dies.When kepler launched all changes and Nv was way ahead of AMD because 294mm2 GTX680 beat 350mm2 7970 so AMd was forced make BIG dies like NV
Also 5years on 28nm didnt help amd with small die strategy.Small die strategy is pretty much dead without new nodes.
AMD and Nvidia can't be compared with die size like that. AMD uses much higher density dies than Nvidia. The transistor count is a more reflective comparison.

And the Fury HBM1 memory also makes the sizes hard to compare.