Genealogy software/site? Anyone have any experience, advice?

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lokiju

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My Mom really wants some way to put all her genealogy data that she's collected over her lifetime into some kind of software. I was thinking even something like http://www.ancestry.com/ but wasn't sure if there was something out there that someone on here has used/uses that stands out as the best solution for this sort of thing?

She keeps bringing it up and I was thinking it'd be a good gift to get her for Christmas and that I could maybe even populate the data as much as possible prior to giving it to her.
 

OutHouse

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Yes.

I have been using ancestry for a year and love it. I have traced my ancestors to landing in what is known now as south hampton new york with my first ancestor with my surname being born in south hampton in 1646 I submitted a dna test and along with census records i can absolutely prove it.

honestly i would just buy the program for her and let her input the data. that is where the fun is, imputing data that you know and seeing what ancestry hits come up from it, like other peoples charts or census records.. then you look at that data to see if it fits within your tree and if it does you add it and its amazing what you find out.

for example my grandfather (my mom's dad)... he is a Wallace so of course the family rumor mill says we are descendants of William Wallace. well it turns out my grandfather was born out of wedlock and wallace was the name of my great grandmothers third husband. i have no idea who my grandfathers dad was. im glad i found that info after my mom passed im not sure she even knew her dad was born out of wedlock and in 1893 that was a big fricken deal.

i got this email in last week from some guy in the UK.

R1b Match - Kent, UK!!

Hello Outhouse,
I see our Y dna is almost a perfect match apart from one marker and having just looked at your tree in the UK I am quite excited & guess we are connected! I am in the UK and my surname is a rather rare Kentish one and not often found. Indeed, my Casselden family came from Teston which is just west of Maidstone. My great grandfather and his brothers were agricultural labourers who went into London and I was born in Willesden, Middlesex, which is north London.
I have always thought that my dad's family originated on the continent, probably from Cassel near Dunkirk. There is another place in Germany named Kassel, although I understand in medieval times it was named Cassel. There was a tale that we may have had Dutch origins and looking at your roots in Holland wonder if we were part of a community that came to Kent? Lots of place names there end in Den which suggests a wooded valley. Look forward to hearing from you.
Cheers,
Mike Casselden in the UK
 
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lokiju

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Yes.

I have been using ancestry for a year and love it. I have traced my ancestors to landing in what is known now as south hampton new york with my first ancestor with my surname being born in south hampton in 1646 I submitted a dna test and along with census records i can absolutely prove it.

honestly i would just buy the program for her and let her input the data. that is where the fun is, imputing data that you know and seeing what ancestry hits come up from it, like other peoples charts or census records.. then you look at that data to see if it fits within your tree and if it does you add it and its amazing what you find out.

for example my grandfather (my mom's dad)... he is a Wallace so of course the family rumor mill says we are descendants of William Wallace. well it turns out my grandfather was born out of wedlock and wallace was the name of my great grandmothers third husband. i have no idea who my grandfathers dad was. im glad i found that info after my mom passed im not sure she even knew her dad was born out of wedlock and in 1893 that was a big fricken deal.

i got this email in last week from some guy in the UK.

R1b Match - Kent, UK!!

Wow, that's pretty amazing. She has a ton of info already so I guess that would only help her find even more from there.

Thanks for the feedback.
 

Saint Nick

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Definitely going to check this out when I get home...cool stuff.

OutHouse, what info can you give about the DNA? How is it collected/updated into the ancestry site?
 

OutHouse

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Definitely going to check this out when I get home...cool stuff.

OutHouse, what info can you give about the DNA? How is it collected/updated into the ancestry site?

it cost 150 bucks. they send you 3 swabs that you use on the left, right and front inside cheeks. you mail it back to them and in 2-3 weeks they will email you the results.

its pretty cool, here is copy and paste from my results. it gives you a broad overview of hwere you ancestors came from and gives you a listing of the closest related matches within ancestry. you can then upload the results to your tree. you then look at their tree and see where/how you are related. ***NOTE: only the male line can be DNA tested because the Y chromosome is passed down from father to son.

Ancient ancestry:
The Artisans
Haplogroup:
R1b

You belong to haplogroup R1b, The Artisans, who first arrived in Europe from west Asia about 35,000- 40,000 years ago at the dawning of the Aurignacian culture. This cultural was remarkable for its subtle yet significant technological progress, like the shift from random flint collection to the use of a single stone core to shape flint tools as needed. Aurignacian decorative beads and jewelry could also be the first sign we have of the uniquely human quality of self-awareness and adornment. Additionally, some anthropologists believe that the Aurignacian culture was the first to paint. Either way, the people of this time period left behind fascinating cave paintings in France, Spain and Portugal.

Other experts believe that the Perigordian culture was prevalent at the time when the Artisans first arrived in Europe. This culture distinguished itself with different technological advances, such as denticulate tools with saw-tooth notches for cutting meat or wood and for smoothing and polishing.

There are several known subgroups of R1b. We're not yet able to tell you which (if any) of these subpopulations you match to, so we'll tell you a little about a few of them. Population genetics is a rapidly advancing field, and new data may allow us to match your DNA to a specific subgroup in the future. We'll notify you by email if more advanced results become available. One subgroup of the Artisans, R1b3 (sometimes called R1b1c) is associated with the Cro-Magnons. Based on archaeological excavations, particularly in France, it's believed that the Cro-Magnons wove clothes, built huts and painted.

The Ice Age may have played a role in the dispersion of the Artisans. At the peak of the Ice Age a European ice shelf extended as far as southern Ireland, mid England and northern Germany, completely covering Scandinavia. Most of continental Europe was tundra and the land only supported trees as far south as southern France, northern Italy and areas north of the Balkans and across the Black Sea. Thus, the Artisans most likely moved south of the tree line for their resources, making permanent homes where their descendants remained even when the ice shelf receded. Others returned north once resources were again available.

About 70% of individuals currently residing in southern England are members of the Artisans. Other members can be found at high rates in the modern day populations of Spain, Portugal, France, Wales, Scotland and Ireland. Based on this observation and other archeological and historical information, it is likely that your ancient ancestors also populated these areas. The Artisans include a genetic group known as the Atlantic Modal Haplotype (AMH), which features greatly among the Irish and Welsh populations.

Some researchers believe that the genes associated with the AMH moved with the early Celtic migrations. Although ancient ancestral Celts were a diverse group and varied in many ways, certain mythologies are consistent throughout most Celtic traditions, despite geographic or tribal boundaries. More than 300 Celtic deities have been described, many of which are reflected in classic Roman counterparts. The god Lugh (or Lugus) may have played an important role among those deities. Folklore and storytelling has infused Lugh's character with magic and fantasy, given him credit for thunder and lightening, and placed his stage in the sky.

The widespread acceptance of Lugh in Celtic culture is supported by the use of his name as the root of city names. Lyon, the present day city in southeastern France was called Lugdunum in Roman times. The city of Leiden in south Holland may also have its roots in the name of the god.

R1b1c4 and R1b1c6 are very specific Artisan subsections found primarily in Basque populations, but also in Catalan, Spanish, French, British and German populations.

A unique modern day population, the Basque people self-identify as a discrete ethnic group in north-central Spain and southwestern France. Early Basque culture was basically democratic and their pre-Christian religion was formed around a superior female goddess, Mari. A rich mythology of Basque creatures and characters includes imps, giants, dragons, soothsayers and other nature-based deities. Traditional Basque cuisine was dictated by the mountains and sea surrounding Basque country. Lamb, fish and beans are typical ingredients of a Basque meal. The language associated with the Basque people is euskara, which linguists believe exists in a family by itself, and is not related to English or other western European languages. Members of the Artisans can be found at high rates in South America. Populations geneticists ascribe this finding to the movement of peoples from Iberia to South America over the last 500 years.
 
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OutHouse

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Wow, that's pretty amazing. She has a ton of info already so I guess that would only help her find even more from there.

Thanks for the feedback.

The best part is that your mom may have a key piece of info that somebody has been searching for for years.
 

paperfist

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I didn't have much luck tracking my Italian heritage on ancestry.com, but a friend of mine got pretty far with his on http://www.myheritage.com/. I haven't tried it yet. ancestry.com has a trial version if you want to check it out. They also have pretty cool publishing software you can use to make a family tree and portfolio with.
 

OutHouse

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I didn't have much luck tracking my Italian heritage on ancestry.com, but a friend of mine got pretty far with his on http://www.myheritage.com/. I haven't tried it yet. ancestry.com has a trial version if you want to check it out. They also have pretty cool publishing software you can use to make a family tree and portfolio with.

yup i started with the online version which is pretty cool then i read about the publishing stuff you can do with the software so i bought it. its nice to print out your tree and after you tape it together it covers half the wall. plus the calendar with birthdays, anniversaries is pretty cool because I suck at remembering birthdays.
 

mcvickj

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These are just a few sites that are good for genealogy research.

http://www.americanancestors.org
http://www.ancestrylibrary.com
http://www.heritagequestonline.com

Also don't forget about your local library. They could be paying for database access to sources that will help fill in the family tree. Our library runs a Genealogy Lock-in ever three / four months with the help of the West Michigan Genealogy Society. The event is always full and is filled with some very knowledgeable people to help out if you run into a road block.
 

acheron

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Right before my grandfather passed away about a year ago, he did a lot of genealogy research. I'm actually not sure what tools he was using. But I have a bunch of his results, and my parents have some of his other materials, so I've been thinking of trying out ancestry.com or something to see if I can expand on what he did and what else I can find. Thanks for the other possible sites too, hopefully I'll get a chance to look at some of them.
 

acheron

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Also that DNA thing sounds kind of cool. Seems like the results are pretty wide ranging right now, but like they said, the technology and data are always getting better.
 

JJ650

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I have been using Ancestry.com for a little while now and I am impressed with the results. The connections that can be made are pretty surprising.

We have just recently discovered an uncle no one knew about after I was contacted by him thru my ancestry page. Turns out the guys is legitmately my uncle (although I am older). You can review all documents found either accept or dismiss them.
It's a pretty good research tool.
 

OlafSicky

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I have been using Ancestry.com for a little while now and I am impressed with the results. The connections that can be made are pretty surprising.

We have just recently discovered an uncle no one knew about after I was contacted by him thru my ancestry page. Turns out the guys is legitmately my uncle (although I am older). You can review all documents found either accept or dismiss them.
It's a pretty good research tool.
How could you not know about him?
 
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