Gene Simmons is an a$$hole

[jjones]

Originally posted by: Gene Simmons
The record industry is in such a mess.

The record industry doesn't have a f*cking clue how to make money.

I'll agree with him there; he's right about those two points. Regarding the rest of his bleating, he's as big an idiot as those schmucks in the RIAA, and obviously the two points he made that I agree with apply to him as well.

 

[mooglemania85]

Whatever happened to just rock n rolling all night, and partying every day?

 

[alkemyst]

Originally posted by: RadiclDreamer
By the way, kiss sucks anyway.

whatever...not my favorite band, but the fanbase is insane.

People don't like Gene because he is straight up honest. He is rich and will state that, he has had great ideas that many say are crap, but you know what; people are buying it.

He is surrounded by A+, perfect 10 women that want to screw his brains out.

He has it all and that pisses people off.

I am willing to bet most here would give their little finger to have / be everything Gene Simmons does/has.

 

[BoberFett]

Originally posted by: Linflas

Originally posted by: BoberFett
Copyright violation is not theft. It's copyright violation.

Don't expect the absolutists here to understand that distinction. Also forget about the idea that copyright was always meant to be a limited temporary monopoly as opposed to an absolute perpetual monopoly for a specified period of time which balances the fair use rights of the public while providing an incentive to the producers to produce more product. On one extreme are the idiots that charge a garage owner for copyright infringment because passers by can hear music coming out of his garage and on the other and the people that think everything should be stuck up on the net free of charge for all to access. Unfortunately the people charged by the Constitution to enact laws balancing these competing rights are pretty much in the pockets of the producers now which results in excrement like the DMCA.

Fixed

 

[alkemyst]

Originally posted by: shinerburke

Because they want to be able to steal music.

Duh....

For some reason the younger generation seems to think theft is ok.....disturbingly it seems as if that thought process is growing stronger with each passing year.

They suffer from entitlement issues started by their parents.

In our interview questions we have some on ethics...things that the potential candidate doesn't see as work related.

It's messed up some of the answers. One question has to do with finding a cart of groceries in the front of a store unattended...what would you do? (I can't remember the exact wording)...

Many will take a highroad and over explain how they'd hunt the owner down to return them, get ice for the cold stuff etc...Some have stated they'd flat out take them as they'd spoil anyway.

 

[alkemyst]

Originally posted by: rudder
Say what you will about the Grateful Dead... but they were consistenly one of the top earners in the music industry when they were touring. They even let people tape thier shows and had whole sections reserved for people to set up audio equipment. They had no problem with people trading music... the only thing you could not do was sell concert recordings. They rarely released albums. So to say that is an ignorant plan... is well just plain silly since it has long since proven that it can work.

different fan base, different technology available. Today people steal the cd and the video concert footage. A lot of people aren't into going to concerts (mostly because ticket master has made it cost $30+ without even paying for the ticket at that point.

You can do this all from your own PC when in the past for bootlegs to work you had to physically trade the item.

If you are going to use an example at least understand the problem.

 

[Pacfanweb]

Originally posted by: mrrman
hes an opportunist and will only do event for $$$$, nothing is done for charity

If you start making 6 figures and donate your entire salary for the rest of your life you probably won't even come close to what $$ Gene has/is giving to charities. KISS has also done plenty of charity concerts, too.

 

[Pacfanweb]

Originally posted by: dr150
Stanky Left Nut Sack > KISS

Stanky Right Nut Sack > GWAR

GWAR > KISS

No, because KISS actually wrote songs that people like. 99% of rock fans couldn't name one song by GWAR, even if they had heard of them.

 

[Pacfanweb]

Originally posted by: Homerboy

Originally posted by: Pacfanweb

Originally posted by: Homerboy KISS never was and never will be in it for "the music" The were salesmen and DAMNED good ones at that. They made their bajaillions. Got laid in every city and country they went to and lived the life they wanted. They were never "Artists" nor pretended to be.

And neither is any other band, until they "make it". Show me a big name, rich artist that is supposedly in it "only for the music", and I'll show you a liar(s).
No big band or artist is in it for the music....they want fame and fortune. The only ones who claim to be in it for the music are either:
A) The ones who've already made it big and can do whatever they want to now

or

B) The ones who never will make it big, or are has-beens, and all they can claim now is "they're in it for the music". Bull F*cking Sh*t. Every single one of them would trade places with Gene Simmons in a heartbeat.

Ummm you missed the "never" part. They NEVER were in it "for the music" They were in it to make it rich and get laid from the get-go.

Ummm, no YOU missed my point, which was, that is what ALL bands are in it for, ESPECIALLY from the get-go. There hasn't been an artist in the history of the world, much less rock music, that set out to live in a dumpster and play for change on the streets.

They only start that "we're in it for the music" crap after the conditions above are met.

 

[Kev]

Originally posted by: Pacfanweb

Originally posted by: dr150
Stanky Left Nut Sack > KISS

Stanky Right Nut Sack > GWAR

GWAR > KISS

No, because KISS actually wrote songs that people like. 99% of rock fans couldn't name one song by GWAR, even if they had heard of them.

wow, Rock and Roll all night, woopdeefuckindoo

 

[alkemyst]

Originally posted by: Pacfanweb

Originally posted by: mrrman
hes an opportunist and will only do event for $$$$, nothing is done for charity

If you start making 6 figures and donate your entire salary for the rest of your life you probably won't even come close to what $$ Gene has/is giving to charities. KISS has also done plenty of charity concerts, too.

Exactly, Gene Simmons will not do a 'free' show when others are profiting...he has no problem doing it free when it's for charity.

Too many people spout off on shit they have no clue on.

 

[Jeff7]

Those kids are putting 100,000 to a million people out of work.

A million people out of work due to downloading songs illegally? The Postal Service has over 700,000 employees.
I somehow doubt that downloading music has been anywhere near as bad as he says it is.


I think he hit on the other true issue though:

The record industry doesn't have a f*cking clue how to make money.

 

[Eeezee]

Originally posted by: shinerburke

Because they want to be able to steal music.

Duh....

For some reason the younger generation seems to think theft is ok.....disturbingly it seems as if that thought process is growing stronger with each passing year.

For some reason older generations are too dim-witted to understand the difference between theft and copyright infringement.

I suppose you've never made a mix tape or shown your friends something you recorded on your VCR (or DVR). Those are also forms of copyright infringement. By your definition, it's theft.

 

[Eeezee]

Originally posted by: shinerburke
I can honestly say I never copied albums to tape or duplicated tapes and gave them away. Same goes for VHS.

I did from time to time copy an album to a cassette, but only if the cassette version was not available and only then for my use in my car or "boom box"

And by the definition used by so many users on this forum (plus Gene Simmons), you are a thief. It doesn't matter whether or not you could buy the cassette version, you did not have permission to make copies. Making the copy is the crime. Go get sued.

 

[n7]

Idiocy.

I spend tons of money on concerts all the time (just came back from one tonight), because that's how i support artists.

Obviously some people don't like to actually earn a living though.

 

[sandorski]

Wouldn't say his views on Downloading Music makes him an asshole, but it sure makes him short-sighted and an sky-is-falling retard. The RIAA and others seem to be of the same mind as him.

 

[PlatinumGold]

Originally posted by: shinerburke

Originally posted by: glutenberg

Originally posted by: shinerburke

Originally posted by: glutenberg

Originally posted by: shinerburke

Originally posted by: Citrix

Originally posted by: RadiclDreamer
For those of you too lazy to read the entire thing, this is what im talking about



It has been nine years since we've seen a new KISS album. Any plans to get back into the studio?
The record industry is in such a mess. I called for what it was when college kids first started download music for free -- that they were crooks. I told every record label I spoke with that they just lit the fuse to their own bomb that was going to explode from under them and put them on the street.

There is nothing in me that wants to go in there and do new music. How are you going to deliver it? How are you going to get paid for it if people can just get it for free? I will be putting out a Gene Simmons box set called "Monster" -- a collection of 150 unreleased songs. KISS will have another box set of unreleased music in the next year.

The record industry doesn't have a f*cking clue how to make money. It's only their fault for letting foxes get into the henhouse and then wondering why there's no eggs or chickens. Every little college kid, every freshly-scrubbed little kid's face should have been sued off the face of the earth. They should have taken their houses and cars and nipped it right there in the beginning. Those kids are putting 100,000 to a million people out of work. How can you pick on them? They've got freckles. That's a crook. He may as well be wearing a bandit's mask.

Doesn't affect me. But imagine being a new band with dreams of getting on stage and putting out your own record. Forget it.

he has valid points, so whay is he a asshole?

Because they want to be able to steal music.

Duh....

For some reason the younger generation seems to think theft is ok.....disturbingly it seems as if that thought process is growing stronger with each passing year.

Because the older generation wasn't taping and distributing movies, TV programs, and music before? The only reason why people are making a fuss now is because of the ease of distribution.

I can honestly say I never copied albums to tape or duplicated tapes and gave them away. Same goes for VHS.

I did from time to time copy an album to a cassette, but only if the cassette version was not available and only then for my use in my car or "boom box"

Isn't the RIAA claiming copying music you've bought to be theft too now? I swear I remember a thread on ATOT discussing this.

If I understand it correctly the RIAA claimes that you can't rip CD's because doing so removes DRM from the tracks.

Hard to argue that about actual vinyl or cassettes since DRM

a. Didn't exist back then
b. Those mediums aren't digital

most people probably don't remember, but when copying analog music, you lose some fidelity with each copy, hence, you could copy album to cassette, but then copying that cassette to another cassette usually meant you lost so much quality that it wasn't worth it. hence there really wasn't the big concern about copying.

with digitial media, copies tend to be exact duplicates, no loss in music quality. hence the concerns.

 

[jonmcc33]

Originally posted by: MikeyIs4Dcats
KISS sucks, and Gene is an egomaniac. But he is the Anti-Asshole. He is totally upfront about EVERYTHING he does and is not hypocritical. I respect him for that.

Are you kidding? I don't know who is more of an ass, him or Howard Stern. I don't respect either of those clowns.

 

[1prophet]

Originally posted by: PlatinumGold

Originally posted by: shinerburke

Originally posted by: glutenberg

Originally posted by: shinerburke

Originally posted by: glutenberg

Originally posted by: shinerburke

Originally posted by: Citrix

Originally posted by: RadiclDreamer
For those of you too lazy to read the entire thing, this is what im talking about



It has been nine years since we've seen a new KISS album. Any plans to get back into the studio?
The record industry is in such a mess. I called for what it was when college kids first started download music for free -- that they were crooks. I told every record label I spoke with that they just lit the fuse to their own bomb that was going to explode from under them and put them on the street.

There is nothing in me that wants to go in there and do new music. How are you going to deliver it? How are you going to get paid for it if people can just get it for free? I will be putting out a Gene Simmons box set called "Monster" -- a collection of 150 unreleased songs. KISS will have another box set of unreleased music in the next year.

The record industry doesn't have a f*cking clue how to make money. It's only their fault for letting foxes get into the henhouse and then wondering why there's no eggs or chickens. Every little college kid, every freshly-scrubbed little kid's face should have been sued off the face of the earth. They should have taken their houses and cars and nipped it right there in the beginning. Those kids are putting 100,000 to a million people out of work. How can you pick on them? They've got freckles. That's a crook. He may as well be wearing a bandit's mask.

Doesn't affect me. But imagine being a new band with dreams of getting on stage and putting out your own record. Forget it.

he has valid points, so whay is he a asshole?

Because they want to be able to steal music.

Duh....

For some reason the younger generation seems to think theft is ok.....disturbingly it seems as if that thought process is growing stronger with each passing year.

Because the older generation wasn't taping and distributing movies, TV programs, and music before? The only reason why people are making a fuss now is because of the ease of distribution.

I can honestly say I never copied albums to tape or duplicated tapes and gave them away. Same goes for VHS.

I did from time to time copy an album to a cassette, but only if the cassette version was not available and only then for my use in my car or "boom box"

Isn't the RIAA claiming copying music you've bought to be theft too now? I swear I remember a thread on ATOT discussing this.

If I understand it correctly the RIAA claimes that you can't rip CD's because doing so removes DRM from the tracks.

Hard to argue that about actual vinyl or cassettes since DRM

a. Didn't exist back then
b. Those mediums aren't digital

most people probably don't remember, but when copying analog music, you lose some fidelity with each copy, hence, you could copy album to cassette, but then copying that cassette to another cassette usually meant you lost so much quality that it wasn't worth it. hence there really wasn't the big concern about copying.

with digitial media, copies tend to be exact duplicates, no loss in music quality. hence the concerns.

Unfortunately these exact duplicates are usually mp3's, and since many don't buy the cd's even if they like the song they never really hear the quality they are missing.

 

[Red Dawn]

Originally posted by: jonmcc33

Originally posted by: MikeyIs4Dcats
KISS sucks, and Gene is an egomaniac. But he is the Anti-Asshole. He is totally upfront about EVERYTHING he does and is not hypocritical. I respect him for that.

Are you kidding? I don't know who is more of an ass, him or Howard Stern. I don't respect either of those clowns.

You act as if your respect is of value. Nobody cares.

 

[Pacfanweb]

Originally posted by: Kev

Originally posted by: Pacfanweb

Originally posted by: dr150
Stanky Left Nut Sack > KISS

Stanky Right Nut Sack > GWAR

GWAR > KISS

No, because KISS actually wrote songs that people like. 99% of rock fans couldn't name one song by GWAR, even if they had heard of them.

wow, Rock and Roll all night, woopdeefuckindoo

Um, "Beth"? "Shout it Out Loud?" "Detroit Rock City"? "Heaven's on Fire"? "Lick it Up"?
That's 5 more songs that were hits than GWAR ever had or will have.

GWAR=KISS, grosser and with less talent.

 

[Squisher]

I had a friend that worked for Brass Ring back in the 70s, he said that KISS was the most down to earth and least arrogant band he ever had to deal with.

 

[jandrews]

If I was gene simmons I would be so fucking sick of singing I want to rock and roll all night

 

[Darwin333]

Originally posted by: glutenberg


Isn't the RIAA claiming copying music you've bought to be theft too now? I swear I remember a thread on ATOT discussing this.

I remember it too. Something about people working (in a bodyshop?) playing a legally bought cd on a boombox being illegal because other people who didn't pay (over a certain number of people maybe?) could hear it. I think it happened across the pond.

 

[nakedfrog]

While Richard Simmons, on the other hand, is a peach.