Gender Neutrality in language at the EU?

[Possessed Freak]

Originally posted by: LtPage1

I think "Miss" has been insulting since the '70s. Why should women broadcast their marital status in front of their names? I do think it's silly to mandate this sort of thing, but calling attention to language like this is a good thing.

I have yet to be corrected in any manner to use the Mizzzz pronunciation instead. I bet the same people who claim to be offended would rather be dragged out of a fire by a female huperson fireperson instead of carried by a male huperson fireperson.


I wonder if they will have to correct all of the gender specific objects they have with the gender specific "le/la"

 

[n yusef]

Originally posted by: Possessed Freak

Originally posted by: LtPage1

I think "Miss" has been insulting since the '70s. Why should women broadcast their marital status in front of their names? I do think it's silly to mandate this sort of thing, but calling attention to language like this is a good thing.

I have yet to be corrected in any manner to use the Mizzzz pronunciation instead. I bet the same people who claim to be offended would rather be dragged out of a fire by a female huperson fireperson instead of carried by a male huperson fireperson.


I wonder if they will have to correct all of the gender specific objects they have with the gender specific "le/la"

Just because you haven't been corrected doesn't mean you aren't wrong.

 

[AreaCode707]

Originally posted by: n yusef

Originally posted by: Possessed Freak

Originally posted by: LtPage1

I think "Miss" has been insulting since the '70s. Why should women broadcast their marital status in front of their names? I do think it's silly to mandate this sort of thing, but calling attention to language like this is a good thing.

I have yet to be corrected in any manner to use the Mizzzz pronunciation instead. I bet the same people who claim to be offended would rather be dragged out of a fire by a female huperson fireperson instead of carried by a male huperson fireperson.


I wonder if they will have to correct all of the gender specific objects they have with the gender specific "le/la"

Just because you haven't been corrected doesn't mean you aren't wrong.

Technically his pronunciation goes back to "Ms", not "Miss", so he actually was using the marriage-neutral term, no chance of offending anyone.

 

[Moonbeam]

I like to hit on a miss.

 

[Possessed Freak]

Originally posted by: n yusef

Originally posted by: Possessed Freak

Originally posted by: LtPage1

I think "Miss" has been insulting since the '70s. Why should women broadcast their marital status in front of their names? I do think it's silly to mandate this sort of thing, but calling attention to language like this is a good thing.

I have yet to be corrected in any manner to use the Mizzzz pronunciation instead. I bet the same people who claim to be offended would rather be dragged out of a fire by a female huperson fireperson instead of carried by a male huperson fireperson.


I wonder if they will have to correct all of the gender specific objects they have with the gender specific "le/la"

Just because you haven't been corrected doesn't mean you aren't wrong.

Wrong in whose eyes? Wrong in how many eyes? I think we should have done the opposite and added a male term for the unmarried/married. I am offended that you can not identify me by my married state...

 

[AreaCode707]

On a completely unrelated note, the poor waitress at Dennys the other day was laboring under her attempt, newly mandated by HR, not to call the customers "honey" or "sweetie". She kept slipping up when talking to us and we kept teasing her about it.

 

[Sacrilege]

Originally posted by: AreaCode707
On a completely unrelated note, the poor waitress at Dennys the other day was laboring under her attempt, newly mandated by HR, not to call the customers "honey" or "sweetie". She kept slipping up when talking to us and we kept teasing her about it.

Good, I'm sick of that shit too. I'm not the waitresses honey or sweetie.

And I'm also glad you enjoy making 77 cents to my dollar. I'll take the extra money and spend it on whores.

 

[sandorski]

Makes perfect sense. Women are the equals of Men, old terminology assumed a lesser role and that terminology needs to change with societal values.

 

[Zenmervolt]

Originally posted by: Sacrilege

Originally posted by: AreaCode707
On a completely unrelated note, the poor waitress at Dennys the other day was laboring under her attempt, newly mandated by HR, not to call the customers "honey" or "sweetie". She kept slipping up when talking to us and we kept teasing her about it.

Good, I'm sick of that shit too. I'm not the waitresses honey or sweetie.

And I'm also glad you enjoy making 77 cents to my dollar. I'll take the extra money and spend it on whores.

You must be rather rich if you're making that much more than 707.

And awfully oblivious if you missed the post debunking the 77 cent myth. Congratulations on both.

ZV

 

[Atreus21]

Originally posted by: Atomic Playboy
A manhole cover shall heretofore be referred to as a metallic rounded elevated sewer access entry point disc. No more sexism in our sewage access entry point covering devices!

That's some funny sh!t right there.

 

[Atreus21]

Originally posted by: n yusef

Originally posted by: AreaCode707

Originally posted by: n yusef

Originally posted by: dullard

Originally posted by: n yusef
I wouldn't like my marital status displayed every time people address me either.

Do you like your status and education displayed every time people address you? By using "Mr. n yusef" you are already lower than me, "Dr. Dullard". And I'm lower than "President Obama". Why is it acceptable (to most people) to designate status and education, but not marriage?

And this neutrality crap needs to end. We have "male" which means someone with an X and Y chromosome, we have "female" which means someone with two X chromosomes, and we have "man" which means human. The word "man" usually does NOT indicate gender. "Fireman" does not say "male who puts out fires". No, instead, it says "human who puts out fires". Problem solved.

It's sexist that women's marital status is displayed but men's isn't. Woman can become doctors and (hypothetically) president. Men cannot be called addressed in a way that identifies them as married.

The word "man" meaning "human" is a product of the patriarchal society that we're trying to fight. Occupations have man in their names because until recently, women could not have those roles. A century ago, all firefighters were men. So the word fireman was accurate. Now, with women in the workforce, gendered words are not accurate. They imply that those jobs are for men only.

If "man" means "human," but "woman" means "female human," men are superior to women. People who believe in gender equality obviously can't support that definition. When people get married, is it a human (man) marrying a wife, or a man marrying a woman?

Just because something is traditional, doesn't mean it has to be accepted.

I'm female and I think the important step was allowing women to be in the jobs they choose, to take or not take on a man's last name, to be called Ms in the marriage-neutral form, and to generally be equal in the real world to males. The language in question is irrelevant to my experiences and accomplishments in the world today. It does not affect me negatively. To artificially force language change suggests that we can pretend the past never happened and robs us (all humanity) of important parts of our history.

Women still are not equal to men. Do you know that your male co-workers make 30 cents more than for for every dollar? Have you noticed how women get blamed for rape and domestic violence (Rihanna being a recent example)?

Getting rid of patriarchal language isn't robbing humanity of history, it's making the future better.

Complete equality is impossible when nature is inherently unequal.

 

[Atreus21]

Originally posted by: n yusef

Originally posted by: Possessed Freak

Originally posted by: LtPage1

I think "Miss" has been insulting since the '70s. Why should women broadcast their marital status in front of their names? I do think it's silly to mandate this sort of thing, but calling attention to language like this is a good thing.

I have yet to be corrected in any manner to use the Mizzzz pronunciation instead. I bet the same people who claim to be offended would rather be dragged out of a fire by a female huperson fireperson instead of carried by a male huperson fireperson.


I wonder if they will have to correct all of the gender specific objects they have with the gender specific "le/la"

Just because you haven't been corrected doesn't mean you aren't wrong.

Does it follow that, just because you are corrected doesn't mean you're right?