1 - People with "gender identity disorder" (i.e. made-up bullcrap by some gay activist) are gay, they are just afraid of being labeled gay and instead come up with this crap.
2 - Regarding the "You'd rather they be miserable for the rest of their lives pretending to be someone they aren't?" - That's ridiculous. They aren't pretending to be someone they aren't until they get a sex change and start dressing like a member of the opposite sex. THEN they are pretending.
Even after this guy gets a sex change, you will still be able to test HIS DNA and it will tell you what? Yup. That HE is a man.
2 - Regarding the "You'd rather they be miserable for the rest of their lives pretending to be someone they aren't?" - That's ridiculous. They aren't pretending to be someone they aren't until they get a sex change and start dressing like a member of the opposite sex. THEN they are pretending.
Even after this guy gets a sex change, you will still be able to test HIS DNA and it will tell you what? Yup. That HE is a man.
I agree fully. People who claim "I'm a woman but I was born with a man's body" need to seriously get professional help.
mrSHEiK124
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Whether or not it makes you uncomfortable, Gender Identity Disorder has been identified, researched, and accepted by the medical community (medical doctors, psychologists, etc.).
Some people think depression doesn't exist - the research proves otherwise.
Some of you may claim that there is nothing beyond one's physical state - you, too, are wrong.
More info on GID.
Just because you are unfamiliar with or afraid of something does not mean it does not exist in a very real sense for a number of very real people who struggle with not only their condition, but with the black-and-white disbelief and pompous, malicious insolence of others.
Some people think depression doesn't exist - the research proves otherwise.
Some of you may claim that there is nothing beyond one's physical state - you, too, are wrong.
More info on GID.
Just because you are unfamiliar with or afraid of something does not mean it does not exist in a very real sense for a number of very real people who struggle with not only their condition, but with the black-and-white disbelief and pompous, malicious insolence of others.
It is good that you are being accepting, And I can imagine it would be a shocker to you. I mainly am glad that you just posted what is happening and your feelings, instead of coming in here, and asking how you should react.
Now to the masses:
Good friends DO NOT have to be accepting of everything their friends decide to do. Its funny how everyone can be so supportive of someone getting a sex change because they have a gender identity mental issue, yet they condemn someone for suicide, when that person is suffering from depression, or chronic pain.
Now I say everyone, but obviously not everyone believes one way or another. But the general consensus I get from this thread is: If you have a gender identity issue, or your friend does, then being a good friend is to accept it, and support the person in there bid to change there external sexual image.
Relate that to a person who is depressed and feeling suicidal, and being a good friend is to run to the cops, military commander's, etc and tell them your friend is thinking about suicide, or you are worried they will try to kill themselves. People intervene, counseling, and medication etc may be done, and you are considered the good friend, by not supporting your friend's suicidal urge.
And they are similar concepts, both of them are a mental state, which causes the person to act out in a way, with possible permanent damage, and change to their bodies.
Now to the masses:
Good friends DO NOT have to be accepting of everything their friends decide to do. Its funny how everyone can be so supportive of someone getting a sex change because they have a gender identity mental issue, yet they condemn someone for suicide, when that person is suffering from depression, or chronic pain.
Now I say everyone, but obviously not everyone believes one way or another. But the general consensus I get from this thread is: If you have a gender identity issue, or your friend does, then being a good friend is to accept it, and support the person in there bid to change there external sexual image.
Relate that to a person who is depressed and feeling suicidal, and being a good friend is to run to the cops, military commander's, etc and tell them your friend is thinking about suicide, or you are worried they will try to kill themselves. People intervene, counseling, and medication etc may be done, and you are considered the good friend, by not supporting your friend's suicidal urge.
And they are similar concepts, both of them are a mental state, which causes the person to act out in a way, with possible permanent damage, and change to their bodies.
ThePresence
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- Nov 19, 2001
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Perhaps there is some truth to what you say, but suicide is an extremely selfish act. A friend of mine jumped off an overpass onto a busy highway a couple of years ago and left a young wife and 2 children to fend for themselves. Not to mention the rest of his family. His mother still cries herself to sleep every night. Sure, I feel deep sympathy for his plight (although nobody knew about his problems at the time), but that's not a way to go about solving it. It solves nothing.
Brainonska511
Lifer
- Dec 10, 2005
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I also have an identity issue. In my mind I know I'm a porn star like Long Dong Silver, but my body just doesn't match my mind.
I'm going to do the natural thing and have a horse dong surgically attached to my body.
I'm going to do the natural thing and have a horse dong surgically attached to my body.
Yea, we are all witch doctors. :roll:
Clinical psychologists...yes, most definitely.
Comparative psychologists, biopsychologists, and neuropsychologists...nowhere near witch doctor status.
At my 20 year High School Reunion there was a guy that is how a woman. He was a really skinny sort of guy and has made a pretty beastly looking woman. I felt bad for him/her... almost no one talked with him/her and I myself wanted to (though we didn't know each other well in school) but just really didn't know how to start a conversation without delving into the obvious, which I thought would be rude. I'm not typically one that is at a loss for words either!
Joe
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