Gen Petraeus to testify Thurs. The next CEC meltdown?

[HomerJS]

So Gen. Petraeus is set to testify tomorrow. The latest CEC, Fox News right wing radio talking point is the Petraeus affair is related to Benghazi, Obama is lying, Obama is covering up, Eric Holder must have known, conspiracy Petraeus quit after the election, this is all ties into Obama lying about what happened at the embassy

The CEC is ginning up more fake outrage that the timing of the affair coming out is far more important then the General putting national security at risk because he couldn't keep his dick in his pants.

If Petraeus gets on the stand and basically says intelligence got it wrong and there is no conspiracy, will we get part 2 of the CEC, Fox News meltdown? They will have egg on their faces again, in a short period of time. Their credibility will continue to erode even more with the public. When I say public I mean the people that take them seriously.

Update: Republicans want Watergate style hearings and promise to fight a Susan Rice nomination for Sec of State.

This is going to turn into one big nothing!!

 

[techs]

The CEC wants something to take Republicans minds of the election.

I wonder if they will mention how close he came to being Romneys running mate?

 

[EagleKeeper]

One wonders why information that was stated to be classified and related to Benghazi was supposedly found on her computers.

What information did she have in general that was not available to her in the performance of her MI duties as a reservist?

If any, where did it come from>

 

[techs]

Republican David Patreus.

Lest we forget.

 

[Phokus]

Republican David Patreus.

Lest we forget.

Yeah, it's going to be funny when the GOP tries to spin Patreaus as some liberal democrat when liberals pretty much hated his guts, so much so, they even put this in newspapers across the country:

Which, of course, outraged republicans

 

[monovillage]

It should be interesting since in his press conference Obama admitted he lied (not in so few words) when he sent Rice to all the Sunday shows and had her lie to the American public for him.

 

[techs]

Yes, my friends. We are facing a fiscal cliff, record deficits, declining educational achievement, loss of manufacturing, etc, etc.

Lets have some who said what hearings and try to get someone in a gotcha!
America. Have we learned nothing?

 

[sixone]

Republican David Patreus.

Lest we forget.

Name a Republican who went out to blame Benghazi on a YT video.

Lest we forget.

 

[Fern]

Gen Petraeus to testify Thurs. The next CEC meltdown?

What's the "CEC"?

Fern

 

[uclaLabrat]

What's the "CEC"?

Fern

in my understanding, Conservative Echo Chamber

 

[Fern]

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If Petraeus gets on the stand and basically says intelligence got it wrong and there is no conspiracy, will we get part 2 of the CEC, Fox News meltdown?

That would be an unbelievable statement for Petraeus if reports of the CIA (Libyan) field office's assessment are to be believed. Similarly to the State Dept's immediate assessment (as testified to in Congress), the CIA in Libya is reported to have immediately said it was a terrorist attack.

So, if the CIA in Libya, the State Dept and the DoD all immediately realized it was a terrorist attack why did Patraeus claim it be related to the video?

Why did Patraeus lie? He knew what his field office in Libya reported.

BTW: This is not some matter just trumped by Fox News. It's been all over CNN (Anderson Cooper is who I've been watching lately) and Congresspersons like Dianne Feinstein (Senate Intelligence Committee) have been all over the networks questioning just what the heck is/has been going on.

If Patraeus was lying to cover up for some classified CIA op in Benghazi one would think Feinstein and the other members of the Senate Intel Committee would automatically know this since they are to be apprised of such ops.

All-in-all very curious goings on. Something somewhere is awry.

Fern

 

[Fern]

in my understanding, Conservative Echo Chamber

Ahhh. Thanks.

Fern

 

[Fern]

Yes, my friends. We are facing a fiscal cliff, record deficits, declining educational achievement, loss of manufacturing, etc, etc.

Lets have some who said what hearings and try to get someone in a gotcha!
America. Have we learned nothing?

A murdered US Ambassador and destroyed consulate is no insignificant matter.

Now, in addition, we have lost our CIA Director and a man who had much knowledge and experience of the Middle East and terrorism. Looks like we have also lost another 4 star general who was to be Supreme Commander in a matter of days. I believe we've also just recently lost some other military brass.

That's a lot of your military 'brain trust' lost in almost one fell swoop. That's no small matter and should be of concern to any thinking person.

Fern

 

[MooseNSquirrel]

Ah the Bush Presidency, now THAT is the gift that keeps on giving.

Ya get what you pay for.

 

[HomerJS]

It should be interesting since in his press conference Obama admitted he lied (not in so few words) when he sent Rice to all the Sunday shows and had her lie to the American public for him.

my guess is (not in any words) unless you can quote

 

[HomerJS]

What's the "CEC"?

Fern

Conservative Entertainment Complex. Coined by David Frum from an article a few days ago. I plan on co-opting

 

[Jhhnn]

That would be an unbelievable statement for Petraeus if reports of the CIA (Libyan) field office's assessment are to be believed. Similarly to the State Dept's immediate assessment (as testified to in Congress), the CIA in Libya is reported to have immediately said it was a terrorist attack.

So, if the CIA in Libya, the State Dept and the DoD all immediately realized it was a terrorist attack why did Patraeus claim it be related to the video?

Why did Patraeus lie? He knew what his field office in Libya reported.

BTW: This is not some matter just trumped by Fox News. It's been all over CNN (Anderson Cooper is who I've been watching lately) and Congresspersons like Dianne Feinstein (Senate Intelligence Committee) have been all over the networks questioning just what the heck is/has been going on.

If Patraeus was lying to cover up for some classified CIA op in Benghazi one would think Feinstein and the other members of the Senate Intel Committee would automatically know this since they are to be apprised of such ops.

All-in-all very curious goings on. Something somewhere is awry.

Fern

I just love conspiracy theories. Do go on.

Intelligence committees are *not* apprised of ops in detail, at all, but rather in broad general terms as a security precaution.

CIA: We're going to be doing a lot of stuff in Libya to boster American interests.

Senate oversight: Sure. Keep us up to date on how it's going.

CIA: You bet. So far, so good.

 

[Jhhnn]

my guess is (not in any words) unless you can quote

Monovillage could find a conspiracy in a ham sandwich.

 

[lopri]

Why did Patraeus lie? He underestimated media's (and people's) obsession with anything related affairs, sex, or nude pictures of public figures. Remember the whole thing got into a mess by a GOP-loyal FBI agent (the "shirtless" guy) going around the normal chain of command and taking the matter to a GOP congressman, who in turn informed Eric Cantor of the whole saga. Cantor had known the whole thing way before the election yet kept his mouth shut. (and his mouth remains shut to date)

I hope Patraeus does the right thing, by which I mean telling the whole truth as he knows it. Whether it's personally embarrassing or politically toxic shouldn't be a factor at this point.

Edit: This is a rare occasion that I agree with Jennifer Rubin of WP. I go to her blog mostly to read snarky comments about her incoherent hyperbole, but for this matter I think she has the right idea.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs...2a6ee8e-2e5c-11e2-beb2-4b4cf5087636_blog.html

 

[Athena]

Eric Holder must have known, conspiracy Petraeus quit after the election

aided by Eric Cantor...who was apparently the only legislator aware of the investigation and kept it to himself -- to help Obama get re-elected.

Where were the calls for Watergate-type hearings a total of 63 people (17 American) were killed at our Lebanon embassy under Ronald Reagan and 241 Americans were killed in the Lebanon marines barrack bombing?

 

[lopri]

Here is another summary, this time from a liberal commentator. But bottom line is similar to that of Rubin's.

http://www.slate.com/articles/news_...andal_congress_has_no_idea_how_to_handle.html

 

[Fern]

aided by Eric Cantor...who was apparently the only legislator aware of the investigation and kept it to himself -- to help Obama get re-elected.
-snip-

Cantor could do nothing but keep his mouth shut.

He merely passed along a tip. There is no reason to believe the FBI updated Cantor. It makes no sense to expect him to run to the media. What would he tell them? An unsubstantiated rumor? Why would he comment about an investigation that may be ongoing, or not going on at all?

Fern

 

[Fern]

I just love conspiracy theories. Do go on.

Please identify the conspiracy theory in my post. I already know you won't be able to.

If you disagree with a 'fact' I have posted, have at it.

Intelligence committees are *not* apprised of ops in detail, at all, but rather in broad general terms as a security precaution.

CIA: We're going to be doing a lot of stuff in Libya to boster American interests.

Senate oversight: Sure. Keep us up to date on how it's going.

CIA: You bet. So far, so good.

Same Lib line been hearing for a while: Basically nobody actually knows anything in this govt and therefore cannot be held accountable.

The level of ignorance you attribute to oversight committees means they do no oversight at all. They don't need to be apprised of daily ops, but one could reasonably expect they would be apprised of ops in greater detail than just "Hey, we're doing something in this country over here" as you imply.

I.e., the oversight would know what's going on, what's the op and it's objective. They wouldn't need know day-to-day detail, but they would have enough info, a sufficiently detailed overview, to automatically understand classified info was involved.

BTW: The first time I heard of any "conspiracy theory" it was from those on the Left attempting to explain why a lie would be necessary. So please don't (falsely) complain to me about such a thing when you guys are pimping them.

Fern

 

[Darwin333]

So Gen. Petraeus is set to testify tomorrow. The latest CEC, Fox News right wing radio talking point is the Petraeus affair is related to Benghazi, Obama is lying, Obama is covering up, Eric Holder must have known, conspiracy Petraeus quit after the election, this is all ties into Obama lying about what happened at the embassy

The CEC is ginning up more fake outrage that the timing of the affair coming out is far more important then the General putting national security at risk because he couldn't keep his dick in his pants.

If Petraeus gets on the stand and basically says intelligence got it wrong and there is no conspiracy, will we get part 2 of the CEC, Fox News meltdown? They will have egg on their faces again, in a short period of time. Their credibility will continue to erode even more with the public. When I say public I mean the people that take them seriously.

Update: Republicans want Watergate style hearings and promise to fight a Susan Rice nomination for Sec of State.

This is going to turn into one big nothing!!

Am I the only one that doesn't give half a shit who he was fucking but instead am very concerned that our top spook, head of the freaking CIA, got busted because he was using fucking Gmail to communicate with his mistress instead of encrypted email, something that even my dumbass can setup in 5 minutes???

 

[Bird222]

Am I the only one that doesn't give half a shit who he was fucking but instead am very concerned that our top spook, head of the freaking CIA, got busted because he was using fucking Gmail to communicate with his mistress instead of encrypted email, something that even my dumbass can setup in 5 minutes???

This /thread lol