Geforce3 Vs. Radeon 9000/ FireGL 9000

phaxmohdem

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OK, so my friends and I just had our sorry ass (but fun) Old School LAN party of 3 people, playing some C&C Generals/ Original Unreal Tourey / Quake III. for a solid day.

Our hardware was all pretty crappy. I had to bring my laptop since I hate lugging my main rig around.

The Vid cards in contention in all of our rigs were:

-nVidia Geforce 3 Ti500 128MB
-Radeon 9000 128MB (Most likely 64 bit)
-FireGL 9000 64MB (in my lappy)

Which of these craptacular cards is the most powerful?
 

mwmorph

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suprised generals ran well on those cards(9000s) did yuo havr to play at 640x480?
 

phaxmohdem

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I had my laptop running 1024x768 at high quality settings, smooth as silk, it will run at 1400x1050 (my max laptop screen res.) with medium quality settings at playable framerates, albeit a bit on the slow side.

I believe my friend with the Radeon 9000 card was running 1024/high as well.

Unreal and QIII arena ran at 1400x1050 and 1280x1024 max settings respectivly on my laptop with no jumping or choppiness at all.
 

Munky

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Originally posted by: mwmorph
suprised generals ran well on those cards(9000s) did yuo havr to play at 640x480?

Generals is not that demanding. I used to have a 9000p (64mb, 128-bit), and it ran smooth at 1024x768 high settings, but without AA/AF. In fact I wasnt even gonna bother upgrading until I tried HL2... now THAT was painful to watch.
 

jiffylube1024

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It's about a tie I believe. I think the 9000 may be a tad faster but I don't remember. The way it went was GF3 < 8500 < GF4 Ti . I can't remember how much slower the 9000 was compared to the 8500, if it was marginal or a bit.
 

rstrohkirch

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Originally posted by: jiffylube1024
It's about a tie I believe. I think the 9000 may be a tad faster but I don't remember. The way it went was GF3 < 8500 < GF4 Ti . I can't remember how much slower the 9000 was compared to the 8500, if it was marginal or a bit.

Again, the gf3 ti500 is the fastest
 

dguy6789

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When most people here the term Radeon 9000, the 9200SE comes to mind. The 9000 and 9000 Pro are a great deal faster than the 9200SE.

The Radeon 9000 is a modified version of the Radeon 8500. They both have 4 pixel pipelines and 128 bit memory buses. The differences begin where the 8500 has 2 TMUs per pipe and the 9000 has 1. However, the 9000 also has an improved triangle setup engine and a more powerful pixel shader than the 8500.

The Radeon 8500 clocks at 275/550, while the 9000 clocks at 250/400 and the 9000 Pro clocks at 275/550. The 9000 Pro performed slower than the 8500 by around 5% in then current games because of the 8500's fill rate advantage. The 9000 Pro would be faster in modern games because current games are more shader limited than fillrate or memory bandwidth. Look at the Radeon 9800 Pro vs 6600GT, the 9800 Pro has WAY more memory bandwidth and loses to the 6600GT is just about every current game.

Here is how I would rate these cards now:

Geforce 3 Ti500=Radeon 8500=Radeon 9000 Pro>Geforce 3>Radeon 9000=Geforce 3 Ti200>FX5200.

 

kurt454

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I have a Radeon 9000 non pro and a GF3 in my closet. Back when I was running them, the Geforce was a little faster, but just barely.
 

rancherlee

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Originally posted by: phaxmohdem
OK, so my friends and I just had our sorry ass (but fun) Old School LAN party of 3 people, playing some C&C Generals/ Original Unreal Tourey / Quake III. for a solid day.

Our hardware was all pretty crappy. I had to bring my laptop since I hate lugging my main rig around.

The Vid cards in contention in all of our rigs were:

-nVidia Geforce 3 Ti500 128MB
-Radeon 9000 128MB (Most likely 64 bit)
-FireGL 9000 64MB (in my lappy)

Which of these craptacular cards is the most powerful?



I feel for you, my last lan party a month ago had 8 computers........ with mine, my secondary the fastest. (main XP 2.4gig/X800XT AIW and Secondary XP 1.4gig/9600pro AIW) but its still fun playing Old Skool games like Quake 3 (at about a million frames per second)

Slowest rig was a PIII 533 with a Geforce 2 MX!!!!!