Geforce2 32MB GTS or Radeon 64MB DDR?

[Hardware]

Both have about the same price which should I buy?

 

[Warrenton]

GeForce2, it has more mature driver support. Radeon is Ati and who knows how often driver updates will come along?

 

[Sunner]

Depends, the Radeon will be faster and has better features.
But OTOH, like Warrenton said, nVidia cards all have good drivers, its tried and true so to speak.

 

[Doomguy]

The raden is NOT faster It sucks in 16 bit and is now beat in 32 bit with the 6.18 drivers.

 

[Pocatello]

I would pick the 64MB Radeon. S3TC support is better. But if I were you, I would wait for the GTS with 200MHz DDR. I know, you all are going to say Nvidia hasn't announced it yet or how expensive it will be. Nvidia hasn't announced it yet because it would kill the sale of the current GTS. I'm betting that the GTS will have 200MHz DDR RAM in a couple of month and will be priced at around $250-300 range just as the GTS are now, and the current GTS will be lowered in price.

 

[brian_riendeau]

"I would wait for the GTS with 200MHz DDR"

People were saying this months ago when the first GTS cards came out...

 

[RagingGuardian]

And what are they going to call it, the Geforce GTS Mini-Ultra? You'll be waiting for a while. I'd go for the Radeon because of better overall picture quality in my opinion or wait for that card Anand was hinting at in his GTS Ultra review.

 

[Whitedog]

GTS, Hands down. Bar none. No question... Awesome card.

Deciding factor; NVidia's track record with 3D hardware the last 3 years, PLUS...

DRIVERS!

 

[Hardware]

Hmmm OK lets go with a gts but whats the best oc friendly card?

 

[ragiepew]

Did we really have to guess which card Hardware was going to pick? This guy is the biggest ProNvidia tr... lover I have ever seen... the GUTB of Nvidia

 

[Orbius]

I'd definitely go for a Radeon, just eyeball the Radeon ,and your average GTS 2(except Asus), you can tell the Radeon uses higher quality components by far.

The Radeon has superior 2d quality than most GTS2 cards, If games ever use T&L the unit on the Radeon is superior to that of the GTS2. The third texture unit on the Radeon, once used, will push the speed of the Radeon past that of the GTS2.

In short unless you're a slave to Q3 benchmarks, get the Radeon 64mb.

 

[Hardware]

Are there any problems with Radeon and Win2k driver support?

 

[Doomguy]

The radeon is much slower and its T&L probobly sucks compared to nvidia's because it has poor drivers and an lacks a mature T&L unit. Directx 8 wont be out for awhile so the 3rd texture unit is useless. Also you cant really even play games in win2k with the radeon's drivers.

 

[BenSkywalker]

The 400MHZ GF2 boards are close to shipping, there already has been a review of one(not the Gainward BS board either)-

http://www.tomshardware.com/graphic/00q3/000816/suma-02.html

Until these are a reality and we see what kind of pricepoint we are looking at I would go with a Radeon DDR. The best feature support and comparable speed, as long as you are running Win9X. If you run Win2K then I would go with a GF2 based board.

 

[sandorski]

I'd choose Radeon, for a couple reasons:

1) Features. ATI has these bells and whistles thingies nailed. DVD, TV out, yadda yadda ya you want stuff, ATI has stuff!

2) Drivers. Unlike others, I don't think weekly driver releases are good. Why? It's simple really, half of Nvidia's drivers suck! Ask a group of Nvidia card owners what drivers they use and you'll get 4-6 different revisions, WTH is with that? Ask most any other vidcard owner and they are most likely using the latest. IMO, Nvidia's driver support is more of a nuisance than a positive. (I now invent the phrase "driver spam" )

3) Price/performance:
.

4) 16bit/32bit:
Never thought I'd here 16bit used as a defense of a Nvidia product. I never use 16bit in games anymore, since upgrading from my Voodoo2.

5) Nvidia fans:
I have a problem with "Pop". There are too many Nvidia boosters for my liking!

 

[Doomguy]

1.)The radeon has poor win2k drivers. Not suitable for gaming.
2.)LOL a common myth. NVidia drivers have pretty much NO game compatibility problems.
3.)The radeon cant touch the GF2 in 16 bit performance and is beat in 32 bit performance with the new drivers.

BTW Nvidia driver releases have slowed down alot. No new drivers since the 6.18.

 

[RagingGuardian]

Doomsguy, your suprising the bejesus outa me, and Hardware why start a thread meant for flames when you know your a Nvidia junky?

We'll see who's king when the Radeon Maxx spanks the "GTS Ultra Too Expensive For The Average Man," like a little school girl.

 

[Auric]

Yeah, but will the MAXX have VIVO? You can't have everything

 

[Soccerman]

Doomguy, "LOL a common myth. NVidia drivers have pretty much NO game compatibility problems."

that's in referrence to #2 on the previous post.

what do you call FSAA? Beta drivers?

ATI has nVidia beat on features. nVidia has ATi Beat on performance in most cases.

and the normal user will not run Win2K, so

 

[Orbius]

Doomguy please find out information about things before you say pro-Nvidia things with no basis. The Ati Radeon T&L unit can do more complex tasks than the Nvidia T&L unit. I believe the Nvidia unit can do 2 vertex calculations while the Ati Radeon T&L unit can do 4 vertex calaculations.

 

[Wingznut]

Hardware, you should definitely get a Voodoo5-5500.

 

[oldfart]

I agree with Wingznut. Definitely the V5 5500. Unless of course, you are a total Nvidiot, and are just here trolling.

 

[labassist]

Damn dude---think you need more RAM...!!! I'd go with the Geforce 2 (Ultra) unless you are a hardcore DVD person, then ATI rocks like none other...
ps. I've got 512 megs (2x256) of 'Athlon certed' PC133 Mushkin in my Athlon 800, Soyo K7VIA rig and people rag on me...

 

[Soccerman]

"Athlon 900, NMC 7VAX, 400W PS, Geforce 140/330, 768MB PC-133RAM, 30GB IBM DTLA 7,2",Plextor 12/10/32,Firewire,Sony TRV110E,WinTV Stereo,6xDVD,Iiyama 22" 130KHz CRT, SB Live, TEAC 2000W Dolby Digital 5.1
Next Update: Geforce Ultra"

from hardware's sig..

man you got a sweet system.. that must have cost a fortune..

 

[Doomguy]

Who cares what ati is capable of if its drivers are crap? Try 3dmark guess who's T&L performs better? I bet nvidia's because the T&L unit and drivers are very mature. NVidia's FSAA no longer has direct 3d compatibility issues with 5.22 drivers and up. Currently the radeon dosent really have more features than the GF2 because directx 8 isnt out yet. Once its out the radeon will have an advantage if its drivers are directx 8 compliant.