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Arachnotronic

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Is anybody else here incredibly excited about this card? I mean, sure, it'll be expensive, but given how crazy it'll be on the performance front, I'm pretty excited.

Of course, I probably won't buy one since I'm all set on GPU power for a good while, but how about you guys? Who will be manning up to pick up one (or two) of these babies at launch?
 
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boxleitnerb

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I want to get two (originally wanted three, but not at that price!), but I fear the price may take a dive after HD8970 is launched.
 
Arachnotronic

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boxleitnerb said:
I want to get two (originally wanted three, but not at that price!), but I fear the price may take a dive after HD8970 is launched.
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I wouldn't bet on that. AMD doesn't have a specially-developed huge GPU for the HPC/Professional GPU markets that it can just rebadge into a consumer card. It does the Nvidia K10 thing by bolting two 7970's together.

7970 and its likely successor are still probably PC/gaming based, and as such, probably will stick to the $500 level while offering $500 worth of performance.
 
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boxleitnerb

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Intel17 said:
I wouldn't bet on that. AMD doesn't have a specially-developed huge GPU for the HPC/Professional GPU markets that it can just rebadge into a consumer card. It does the Nvidia K10 thing by bolting two 7970's together.

7970 and its likely successor are still probably PC/gaming based, and as such, probably will stick to the $500 level while offering $500 worth of performance.
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Let's be realistic here and assume, the top 8970 offers 15-20% more performance than the 7970 GE. That would put it at 33-38% faster than the GTX680. Not that far from Titan. I don't think Nvidia can justify charging 900 bucks for Titan if AMD charges 549. 650-700 would be okay.
 
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boxleitnerb said:
Let's be realistic here and assume, the top 8970 offers 15-20% more performance than the 7970 GE. That would put it at 33-38% faster than the GTX680. Not that far from Titan. I don't think Nvidia can justify charging 900 bucks for Titan if AMD charges 549. 650-700 would be okay.
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I expect Titan to be the rejects from the K20 pile, so perhaps $650 - $700 is likely. That's what they charged for the 8800 Ultras, right?
 
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boxleitnerb

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$700, yes.
I still think Titan could be a 15 SMX part. It comes later, yields have improved, maybe a new stepping. And don't tell me Nvidia threw all the 15 SMX GK110s away up to now (assuming they got at least some, maybe 10-15% of all functional GK110 dies, the rest being 12-14 SMX).
 
Arachnotronic

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boxleitnerb said:
$700, yes.
I still think Titan could be a 15 SMX part. It comes later, yields have improved, maybe a new stepping. And don't tell me Nvidia threw all the 15 SMX GK110s away up to now (assuming they got at least some, maybe 10-15% of all functional GK110 dies, the rest being 12-14 SMX).
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I would not expect Nvidia to save the best cards for the PC enthusiast space. Margins are much nicer for the Quadro/Tesla.

The "rejects" and/or higher yield variants will be what the consumers get. Makes perfect sense from a business standpoint, anyway.
 
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boxleitnerb

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They didn't do that ever before. The consumer market always got the full part, as did the professional market (aside from GF100 where neither did).
 
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I'm more interested in seeing what kind of peformance benefit haswell can give me over sandy bridge before I decide to spend money on any GPU's.

Theoretically if Titan is close to as fast as gtx680 SLi could it become CPU limited?
 
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Intel17 said:
I wouldn't bet on that. AMD doesn't have a specially-developed huge GPU for the HPC/Professional GPU markets that it can just rebadge into a consumer card. It does the Nvidia K10 thing by bolting two 7970's together.

7970 and its likely successor are still probably PC/gaming based, and as such, probably will stick to the $500 level while offering $500 worth of performance.
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It is possible, IF (only if) 8970 is as gaming oriented as pitcairn but with near double resources (2560 shaders, a lot of ROPs etc.), it may easily beat geforce titan, with only 400-450 mm2 of die space, this should get about 85-90% of GTX690 performance.
 
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parvadomus

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VulgarDisplay said:
I'm more interested in seeing what kind of peformance benefit haswell can give me over sandy bridge before I decide to spend money on any GPU's.

Theoretically if Titan is close to as fast as gtx680 SLi could it become CPU limited?
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If you game @ 1280x720 then YES. It all depends on resolution, AA levels, etc.
 
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HurleyBird

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Intel17 said:
I would not expect Nvidia to save the best cards for the PC enthusiast space. Margins are much nicer for the Quadro/Tesla.

The "rejects" and/or higher yield variants will be what the consumers get. Makes perfect sense from a business standpoint, anyway.
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boxleitnerb said:
They didn't do that ever before. The consumer market always got the full part, as did the professional market (aside from GF100 where neither did).
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Here's another reason the consumer market might get the fully enabled card: competition. Nvidia has the professional market locked up whether or not they release a 15 SMX part. On the other hand, putting their best foot forward for a consumer flagship part tends to trickle down to the rest of the product line in terms of consumer mind share.

That being said, depending on how this thing performs I'll either buy one the moment it launches or wait for AMD's response to compare it to. Most interesting to me is how the more compute focused architecture will cope with forward+ rendering, which with AMD locking up the console market is going to be the future. That will be the biggest factor for me to consider when I'm thinking about pulling the trigger.
 
Annisman*

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I think I'll get two, which I can't believe I'm saying this, could be too much for my 3930k at it's current speed.
 
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^Go for three! :D

I'm pretty excited; its nice to see how the new card will change the pricing landscape
 
VirtualLarry

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I'm happy with my GT430. F@H and the like are getting WAAAY too expensive to feed the habit with new video cards and CPUs.
 
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