GeForce Titan coming end of February

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Cookie Monster

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Well said, well said. All those other things you mentioned like transistor density and how those transistors work in particular chip do matter. I should have considered those characteristics in how they impact the power consumption.

Maybe you misunderstood me but I meant that without knowing some of those key parameters and info, its hard to just use die sizes simply to speculate about its power characteristics. It may give us some hints.. but from my experience its never like that.
 

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Videocardz reports that the GTX Titan would have computing power of 4.5 TFLOPS, with the GPU clock range of 800-900 MHz core clock. The memory may not reach the 6GHz GDDR5 mark. Paper launch on Feb 18th, with reviews the next day. They also state ROPs will be just 48. I thought GK110 with 14 SMX would have 56 ROPs since 8 SMX in GK104 is 32 ROPs (or 4 ROPs per SMX).

Pretty sure ROP's are tied to the memory controllers. 8 ROP's per controller.
 

blackened23

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I wonder how accurate the Feb 18th date is? Honestly i'm kinda sick of the speculation, looking forward to seeing hard numbers and figures!
 

3DVagabond

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Everyone agreed that it was mid-range part.
<300mm^2 / 256bit, 118% of GTX 580 transistors (GTX 460 has 40% more tran. than GTX 285)

But it makes no sense to call it mid-range if it's top-performer and NV has nothing better for another year.
The only thing that remains mystery is at what point NV decided to make gk104 top dog. And was that the plan all along or forced decision.

It was too long ago to go and look for, but we were told that GK100 was scrapped and they decided to just go with GK104 and rework GK100 into GK110. nVidia's surprise was that Tahiti wasn't more powerful than it was which allowed them to compete at the $500 price range with GK104.
 

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They were really really lucky it turned out like that. Nvidia needs to count their blessings. It was dumb luck i guess.

They were expecting a more powerful 7970, had it came to be everything would be completely different today. Massively different
 

OCGuy

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Isn't Titan the name of the Oak-Ridge supercomputer that uses this chip? Wasn't this supercomputer only activated 4 months ago?

I know there is a certain crowd that is a little uneasy right now and loves the conspiracy angel of nV holding back this 7+ BILLION xtor monster that only a small % of people can afford, but then you would have to believe they also slow-played one of our nuclear facilities as well. After that they annouced the Tesla line, and now we have this (I think?).
 

3DVagabond

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Isn't Titan the name of the Oak-Ridge supercomputer that uses this chip? Wasn't this supercomputer only activated 4 months ago?

I know there is a certain crowd that is a little uneasy right now and loves the conspiracy angel of nV holding back this 7+ BILLION xtor monster that only a small % of people can afford, but then you would have to believe they also slow-played one of our nuclear facilities as well. After that they annouced the Tesla line, and now we have this (I think?).

It was upgraded with these GPU's 4 months ago. It's not a totally new installation. But, yeah, that's when they were first able to ship this GPU. I don't think anyone believes they've kept this chip shelved until now, because they didn't need it.
 

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Am I the only one who finds the "We expected more from the 7970" quotation tiring?

AFAIK that supposed-quotation came from a single employee, not 'NVIDIA' as a company. More importantly, what NVIDIA actually delivered to the market was basically on-par with the 7970. Ahead for a few months, then overtaken.

I couldn't care less about this posturing. All that matters is what actually reaches the consumer market, and at what price. This GK110 Titan (IF REAL) is certainly fascinating, but I certainly won't be buying one at the rumoured MSRP.
 

boxleitnerb

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Titan cannot beat 680 SLI even with full specs. Too little memory bandwidth.
Look at those "results" - the 680 SLI scales terribly in Skyrim (CPU bottleneck), yet they expect Titan to be so fast? Idiots.
 

omeds

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Unless it's in a game and at settings where the amount of bandwidth provided by Titan doesn't restrict it's performance..
 

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nVidia better get smart with memory bandwidth or they'll go the way of the Dodo. Also, the GTX 780 had better be at least 75% faster than a GTX 680 or it'll bomb. It also needs at least 3 GB of vRAM with a 384-bit.
 

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The prediction is wrong. Even with all 15 SMX a 1050MHz TITAn card will not be faster than two GTX680 cards.

So the only useful information is the boost number.
 

3DVagabond

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Titan cannot beat 680 SLI even with full specs. Too little memory bandwidth.
Look at those "results" - the 680 SLI scales terribly in Skyrim (CPU bottleneck), yet they expect Titan to be so fast? Idiots.

The prediction is wrong. Even with all 15 SMX a 1050MHz TITAn card will not be faster than two GTX680 cards.

So the only useful information is the boost number.

I'm not saying he's right, but Chris Ney isn't an idiot. If titan doesn't perform like this stock, and I'll be surprised if it does, Chris will O/C the snot out of it trying to prove himself. ;)
 

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Probably be closer to GTX 670 SLI if scaling was at 100% all the time. Without the SLI overhead, I think it's perfectly plausible for Titan to be as fast or faster than GTX680 SLI.
 

boxleitnerb

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Well, you don't. Others do. What keeps AMD from pumping out a monster card at no regard for price or TDP? That is no commendable achievement, everyone can do that if they wanted to.
 
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