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Geforce GTX 560 comes next year has 384 shaders. Rumours.

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The gtx 560 must be comming sooner then we think the gtx460 768 is 134$ on newegg and 115$ AR with a free Hawx 2 game.

Mabe they are gettig rid of inventory?
 
Keysplayr said:
384 shaders, 64 TMU's, Higher clocks and shader domains. Should easily give it 20% over 460.
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How do you think it would compare to the 1GB 460 at 800MHz?

or how would it compare, if it were downclocked to match the stock 460?


Since Nvidia said that a large percentage of 460s should be able to reach 800MHz, and seems like lots of people are aware of it, would be nice to see them compared in that manner.
 
blastingcap said:
Yup.
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So will the gtx560 be a 440 sp powerhouse from the gf110?
OR
Will it be a 384 sp gf104 part?

Thats the question.
My opinion?

The gtx 570 and gtx560 (gf104) will launch soon.
I don't think they want to use cut down gf110 for gtx560's chips if they don't have to, do they?

Yes , I read the op..🙂 I dont believe it. 🙂
 
I heard that a gtx460 is basically a fully-enabled and higher-clocked gtx460, about 15-20% faster than a stock gtx460

gtx560 is NOT gf104. gtx460 = gf104

no they would never use a cut down gf110 for a gtx560 unless they literally had a mountain of them piling up in the warehouse that they could use for free, and even then, it would be like the gtx465 all over again... unnecessarily large power draw
 
blastingcap said:
I heard that a gtx460 is basically a fully-enabled and higher-clocked gtx460, about 15-20% faster than a stock gtx460

gtx560 is NOT gf104. gtx460 = gf104

no they would never use a cut down gf110 for a gtx560 unless they literally had a mountain of them piling up in the warehouse that they could use for free, and even then, it would be like the gtx465 all over again... unnecessarily large power draw
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So you believe this story about a gf114 chip for the gtx560 and lower end?
I would think they would just use fully enabled gf104 chips, but mabe they can't get the yields on the gf104 die?

I believe your right about the gf110 for gtx560's , something tells me yields are good for this chip and they don't want another gtx465 fiasco anyway.
 
happy medium said:
So you believe this story about a gf114 chip for the gtx560 and lower end?
I would think they would just use fully enabled gf104 chips, but mabe they can't get the yields on the gf104 die?

I believe your right about the gf110 for gtx560's , something tells me yields are good for this chip and they don't want another gtx465 fiasco anyway.
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Possible reuse of gf104 but if they had time to redo gf100 why not redo gf104 as well? Unless they didn't think the power savings was worth it. I suppose it could go either way.
 
Jdawg84 said:
From what i've been reading with GF110. They're getting amazing overclocks on air with it so GF114 hopefully should do over 1Ghz core quite easily
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You do realize it has been getting around or below 10% overclocks since it was just raised clocks from the 480, right?
 
Ares1214 said:
You do realize it has been getting around or below 10% overclocks since it was just raised clocks from the 480, right?
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I posted this in the other thread in response to you saying pretty much the same thing you did here.

"All they did was raise clocks", added another 32 shaders, another 4 TMU's, another polymorph engine, and anything else that came with enabling the 16th SM. All the while using less power.

Still think all they did was raise clocks? If you're going to have this conversation, at least keep it real. If you can't, then don't have it.

In other words, please stop propagating fud. Thanks in advance.
 
Keysplayr said:
I posted this in the other thread in response to you saying pretty much the same thing you did here.

"All they did was raise clocks", added another 32 shaders, another 4 TMU's, another polymorph engine, and anything else that came with enabling the 16th SM. All the while using less power.

Still think all they did was raise clocks? If you're going to have this conversation, at least keep it real. If you can't, then don't have it.

In other words, please stop propagating fud. Thanks in advance.
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Fine, all those other things got them just about nothing as far as performance. 3%. So, basically any more performance they got over the 480 was via higher clocks.

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There ya go. So it appears another 32 shaders, another 4 TMU's, another polymorph engine, and anything else that came with enabling the 16th SM didnt really do much...And they cut away CUDA related stuff, hence the lower power, as well as a more mature process.
 
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happy medium said:
The gtx 560 must be comming sooner then we think the gtx460 768 is 134$ on newegg and 115$ AR with a free Hawx 2 game.

Maybe they are getting rid of inventory?
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More like a fire sale so they can increase their DX11 card marketshare. That and that there is a ton in 460 inventory since GF104 is a very good chip for NV (high yielding and highly clockable).

Looking at the current Steam HW survey (not a good comparison, but it's all we got to go by) AMD still reigns supreme in DX11 marketshare. All GTX4xx cards make up 18.02% which is even less than the 57xx series itself (31.88%). But since the 68xx series are just flying off the shelves (according to a Fry's employee) I expect NV's DX11 growth to stagnate a little.
 
rUmX said:
More like a fire sale so they can increase their DX11 card marketshare. That and that there is a ton in 460 inventory since GF104 is a very good chip for NV (high yielding and highly clockable).

Looking at the current Steam HW survey (not a good comparison, but it's all we got to go by) AMD still reigns supreme in DX11 marketshare. All GTX4xx cards make up 18.02% which is even less than the 57xx series itself (31.88%). But since the 68xx series are just flying off the shelves (according to a Fry's employee) I expect NV's DX11 growth to stagnate a little.
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I'd buy they are moving inventory in prep for a 560 launch than trying to increase their DX11 marketshare. Considering how small the overall market is going by steam results.
 
Genx87 said:
I'd buy they are moving inventory in prep for a 560 launch than trying to increase their DX11 marketshare. Considering how small the overall market is going by steam results.
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It's still somewhat important and shouldn't be overlooked. Moving forward there is less and less PC games sold at retail as digital distribution slowly takes over and more and more games are being packaged with Steam.
 
Things are really heating up in the GPU market. I have a feeling that Fusion and Sandy Bridge are going to put pressure on NV and AMD both to create compelling midrange cards. In a sense, midrange cards are going to be the new "low end" when it comes to discreet GPUs.
 
I'm really excited for 560. Looking forward to it. I just built a 2500K based machine and it is phenomenal.

I think the 560 would be a perfect match for this system, and maybe another one in the future 😉

Any idea when I might be able to get my hands on one of these? XFX, ASUS, eVGA? Who is gonna be makin' them this time around?
 
Sickamore said:
I will never buy a amd card ever. I tried it twice for two months and it didnt feel right. I will wait on nvidia no matter what problems they are having. Bonafide geforce.
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I totally hear ya on this one. I went from a 8800gt to a hd4850 and I hated it. Everything was real buggy, I went back to Nvidia with a 9800gtx+ and was a happy camper again
 
Bman123 said:
I totally hear ya on this one. I went from a 8800gt to a hd4850 and I hated it. Everything was real buggy, I went back to Nvidia with a 9800gtx+ and was a happy camper again
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PEBKAC or bad luck, had a HD 4850 in my brothers computer since launch with zero problems to this day, same with my other nVidia/ATi cards.
 
SniperSlap said:
I'm really excited for 560. Looking forward to it. I just built a 2500K based machine and it is phenomenal.

I think the 560 would be a perfect match for this system, and maybe another one in the future 😉

Any idea when I might be able to get my hands on one of these? XFX, ASUS, eVGA? Who is gonna be makin' them this time around?
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Anyone who has an Nvidia card out now will be making them.
 
i get a GTX 560 Ti sample......
it's very insteresting ~GTX 560 Ti>GTX 570 in 3D Mark 11
now have wait for NV NDA@1/25:sneaky:
 
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