GeForce GTX 280+ (GT200-b) in September? GTX 350 (GT300) in Q4 08?

[Aberforth]

Originally posted by: taltamir
then there WILL BE at least 4 games... not "THERE ARE" at least 4 games.

In that case, there is nothing- the universe is like a matrix fooling everyone around to believe they have something

 

[taltamir]

no! IS = Present. Will be = Future.

 

[Aberforth]

Originally posted by: taltamir
no! IS = Present. Will be = Future.

You don't get it, the dx10.1 games are already there but you don't get to see them at present. In the same way, everything required to build a Geforce DX10.1 card is already there but the atoms and molecules hasn't taken a definite shape yet to be recognizable by humans.

 

[Keysplayr]

Originally posted by: Aberforth

Originally posted by: taltamir
no! IS = Present. Will be = Future.

You don't get it, the dx10.1 games are already there but you don't get to see them at present. In the same way, everything required to build a Geforce DX10.1 card is already there but the atoms and molecules hasn't taken a definite shape yet to be recognizable by humans.

What value does this hold for you?

 

[Aberforth]

Originally posted by: keysplayr2003

Originally posted by: Aberforth

Originally posted by: taltamir
no! IS = Present. Will be = Future.

You don't get it, the dx10.1 games are already there but you don't get to see them at present. In the same way, everything required to build a Geforce DX10.1 card is already there but the atoms and molecules hasn't taken a definite shape yet to be recognizable by humans.

What value does this hold for you?

I rather not answer, don't wanna go off-topic. My clarification will be very long and unnecessary.

 

[Keysplayr]

Originally posted by: Aberforth

Originally posted by: keysplayr2003

Originally posted by: Aberforth

Originally posted by: taltamir
no! IS = Present. Will be = Future.

You don't get it, the dx10.1 games are already there but you don't get to see them at present. In the same way, everything required to build a Geforce DX10.1 card is already there but the atoms and molecules hasn't taken a definite shape yet to be recognizable by humans.

What value does this hold for you?

I rather not answer, don't wanna go off-topic. My clarification will be very long and unnecessary.

Fifth amendment it is then. Unless you really aren't from N.Carolina.

 

[Aberforth]

Originally posted by: keysplayr2003
Fifth amendment it is then. Unless you really aren't from N.Carolina.

Well, my house is in SC but they often send me from country to country to assist dumb people who screw up stuff.

 

[myocardia]

Originally posted by: keysplayr2003

Originally posted by: Aberforth

Originally posted by: taltamir
no! IS = Present. Will be = Future.

You don't get it, the dx10.1 games are already there but you don't get to see them at present. In the same way, everything required to build a Geforce DX10.1 card is already there but the atoms and molecules hasn't taken a definite shape yet to be recognizable by humans.

What value does this hold for you?

It adds to his post count. Besides that, there doesn't seem to be any value whatsoever.

 

[taltamir]

Originally posted by: Aberforth

Originally posted by: taltamir
no! IS = Present. Will be = Future.

You don't get it, the dx10.1 games are already there but you don't get to see them at present. In the same way, everything required to build a Geforce DX10.1 card is already there but the atoms and molecules hasn't taken a definite shape yet to be recognizable by humans.

I can buy DX10.1 cards in newegg, and could for a while now, so I understand what you are trying to allude to...
Let me rephrase that, I do understand, but you are not in touch with the realities of time.

 

[Aberforth]

Originally posted by: taltamir

Originally posted by: Aberforth

Originally posted by: taltamir
no! IS = Present. Will be = Future.

You don't get it, the dx10.1 games are already there but you don't get to see them at present. In the same way, everything required to build a Geforce DX10.1 card is already there but the atoms and molecules hasn't taken a definite shape yet to be recognizable by humans.

Let me rephrase that, I do understand, but you are not in touch with the realities of time.

I think your insinuative opinions are sophomoric, I didn't expect anything else.

 

[taltamir]

oh wait.. i missed that you said GEFORCE 10.1, not just any 10.1. Ignore the bit about buying it at newegg...
But the conclusion stays the same... insinuative sophomoric opinions? I didn't say you are stupid or anything, just out of touch with the human concept of time... look at what you said :

everything required to build a Geforce DX10.1 card is already there but the atoms and molecules hasn't taken a definite shape yet to be recognizable by humans.

The phrase "lol wut?" comes to mind. By that logic I have a space elevator in my back yard, all the atoms to build it already exist... (I am pretty sure the current scientific though is that all the atoms out there have existed since the beginning of the universe)

 

[rjc]

Originally posted by: ronnn
So Rys (near the bottom) says it is shipping. :beer:

Just following up on the thread, appears rys is saying that they are already shipping. 55nm GT200s are being sold to end customers. Is being kindof vague in his answers which doesnt help credibility much.

If true nobody seems to have noticed yet. On the other hand would be consistent with the G92, G94 and G96 55nm parts which also seem to be sold under the same product names as the 65nm parts.

I guess everybody that owns a GTX260 or GTX280 needs to pull off their heatsink to prove or disprove this

 

[apoppin]

Originally posted by: rjc

Originally posted by: ronnn
So Rys (near the bottom) says it is shipping. :beer:

Just following up on the thread, appears rys is saying that they are already shipping. 55nm GT200s are being sold to end customers. Is being kindof vague in his answers which doesnt help credibility much.

If true nobody seems to have noticed yet. On the other hand would be consistent with the G92, G94 and G96 55nm parts which also seem to be sold under the same product names as the 65nm parts.

I guess everybody that owns a GTX260 or GTX280 needs to pull off their heatsink to prove or disprove this

he clarified .. nope

Quote:

Originally Posted by CJ
You probably have the best chance to find a 55nm GT200 on these cards.[/b]

You have zero chance at the moment

i guess he was talking about the "+", not the 55nm

no one is really expecting the 55nm now

hopeful .. but not expecting

 

[ronnn]

He is evil! Think by replacing wavy dave, he has inherited the style. Editorial privilege I guess.

 

[bryanW1995]

Originally posted by: Aberforth

Originally posted by: keysplayr2003

Originally posted by: Aberforth

Originally posted by: taltamir
no! IS = Present. Will be = Future.

You don't get it, the dx10.1 games are already there but you don't get to see them at present. In the same way, everything required to build a Geforce DX10.1 card is already there but the atoms and molecules hasn't taken a definite shape yet to be recognizable by humans.

What value does this hold for you?

I rather not answer, don't wanna go off-topic. My clarification will be very long and unnecessary.

there is no dana, only zuul.

 

[rjc]

Originally posted by: ronnn
He is evil! Think by replacing wavy dave, he has inherited the style. Editorial privilege I guess.

Finally he fessed up :
It seems like one revision of the chip is shipping now with Tesla, with the last revision they taped out set for GeForce soon. My sources say it's just come back from packaging in Taiwan, so MP clearance should happen soon all going well.

That they needed another spin for GeForce should give a couple of hint as to what they plan to do with it, that they couldn't do with a revision that was OK for Tesla.

There was recently announced a delay with the TSMC 40nm process, till the middle of next year at best for the high end gpus. I guess even with overstocking on the 65nm GT200 part would need the 55nm to make it through till that far in the future.

 

[taltamir]

i agree, they transitioned the 9800GTX to 55nm some time ago. And jsun-hyung (err, or whatever his name is) actually said in an interview that I read that the 55nm G200 is ready to go, but they need to get rid of 65nm stock first so it is not coming to the market yet.

 

[Keysplayr]

Originally posted by: Aberforth

Originally posted by: taltamir

Originally posted by: Aberforth

Originally posted by: taltamir
no! IS = Present. Will be = Future.

You don't get it, the dx10.1 games are already there but you don't get to see them at present. In the same way, everything required to build a Geforce DX10.1 card is already there but the atoms and molecules hasn't taken a definite shape yet to be recognizable by humans.

Let me rephrase that, I do understand, but you are not in touch with the realities of time.

I think your insinuative opinions are sophomoric, I didn't expect anything else.

And what should we think of your opinions then? Being what they are?

 

[Compddd]

So any new ETA for the dang GTX 280 55nm? I want one!

 

[Cookie Monster]

Im guessing October. 55nm G200s are already shipping. This only applies to Tesla at this point in time. Im guessing we will see the 55nm G200s for Geforce's soon.

 

[rjc]

Originally posted by: Compddd
So any new ETA for the dang GTX 280 55nm? I want one!

Oh yeah everyone wants that!

But think from nvidias point of view, if they have a pile 65nm GT200s sitting around and people hear there's a 55nm version waiting in the wings they'll pretty much have to give the old stuff away. So the 55nm must stay secret.

When the 9800GTX+ came out it was right on the tail of the 4850 release, am vaguely thinking if ati release the 4850x2 at just above the current GTX280, nvidia will react with a 55nm version clocked a bit higher to match it. Wouldn't want 2 ati cards above nvidia's top of the line.

Otherwise if ati don't bother with the 4850x2, then it will be slipstreamed in with the 65nm parts sort of like 9800gt where you have to pull off the heatsink in the store to figure out what you have got.

Finally there is the rebranding of the middle and lower end parts in a few weeks. Suppose they could spice up the event by announcing a new part. Against this they said wouldn't get through their 65nm inventory till end of Q4 and we are still not through nvidias FYQ3 which ends at the end of this month.

Current inventory is the key, from the jon peddie figures nvidia sell at max around 400k GT200 parts per quarter(i think its less than that but the figures aren't broken down enough). Somehow need to work out how many 65nm parts they produced.

So in summary "i dont know"