GeForce GTX 280+ (GT200-b) in September? GTX 350 (GT300) in Q4 08?

[AuDioFreaK39]

According to AustinComputers in Austrailia, it looks like Nvidia is rolling out its 55nm GTX 280 (supposedly called GTX 280+) this month. Additionally, a GTX 350 is expected within the close of the year, featuring 2GB of GDDR5 on the same 512-bit bus. If this product page is correct, this new card could easily be a beast! :shocked:

http://austin.net.au/ProductLi...ategory=GRAPHICS+CARDS

I stumbled upon a Hardspell article written July 18, 2008 that speaks of a GTX 350 engineering sample with the same specs as listed above:

HardSpell.com - NVIDIA GTX 350 ES version is ready and the specs revealed?!

We got to know the related news but we are not so sure about this:

NVIDIA GTX 350
GT300 core
55nm technology
576mm
512bit
DDR5 2GB memory, doubled GTX280
480SP doubled GTX280
Grating operation units are 64 the same with GTX280
216G bandwidth
Default 830/2075/3360MHZ
Pixel filling 36.3G pixels/s
Texture filling 84.4Gpixels/s
Cannot support D10.1 .10.0/SM4.0

 

[geoffry]

I don't think the GTX 280 is memory bandwidth constrained.

512 mbit + GDDR 5 would give insanely high bandwidth, not to mention high cost.

 

[scheibler1]

I'm definately going to utilize my step-up if this is true

 

[RussianSensation]

1. How is NV going to squeeze double the number of shader processors in half-node (65nm > 55nm)? I don't think so. By going full node from 90nm 8800GTX with 128 shaders to 65nm GTX280 they have the largest hot gpu with 240 shaders (less than 2x increase)...
2. How is NV going to pull off #1 and still increase clock speeds to 830mhz? I don't think so. They'll be lucky enough to get good yields at 830mhz gpu on 55nm GTX280.
3. 512-bit memory bus + 2GB of ram? I could believe this, but at reasonable price, no way before next year.
4. No DX10.1/11 support? That's least likely to believe of all.

Also not even sure NV will continue making large monolithic GPUs.

 

[SergeC]

Good summary of why this is likely BS. Possible on 45nm, not 55.

 

[CP5670]

It's extremely unlikely that anything is coming this month. If the release was that close, we would know the exact date by now and have all sorts of leaked benchmarks available.

 

[imported_Champ]

Nidvia GeForce GTX 280+

its gotta be true right:roll:

 

[Tempered81]

It sounds like Nvidia is just trying to squeeze out the last impossible fart on this attempt to topple the R700. They can't do it with the monolith g80->g92->gt200 architecture on DX10, even at 45, or 40nm. The only probability would be a 40nm GTX 260 GX2 w/ ddr5, even then it would only be equal, and not surpassing R700. I say wait for next-gen NV DX10.1/11 solution vs. R800 first half of '09.

 

[alcoholbob]

If the GT350 has twice the power of the 280, then it has to be a GX2 solution.

How's it going to cool though? Sounds like Geforce 5 Dustbuster all over again...

 

[Sylvanas]

Dug pointed this site out a while back I think, I don't think this site is somehow 'in the know' and the products listed are just placeholders until the real deal comes along- I wouldn't be paying much attention to this.

 

[scheibler1]

I'm not so much worried about the specs, but that they ARE making die-shrinks that will hopefully be out by december

 

[apoppin]

Originally posted by: Astrallite
If the GT350 has twice the power of the 280, then it has to be a GX2 solution.

How's it going to cool though? Sounds like Geforce 5 Dustbuster all over again...

ta dah!

what else could it be?

two 55nm GT260 cores .. should cream the X2

let Nvidia worry about the thermals; they manage their GX2's OK in the past
- get ready for another $600 videocard

 

[WaitingForNehalem]

Originally posted by: apoppin

Originally posted by: Astrallite
If the GT350 has twice the power of the 280, then it has to be a GX2 solution.

How's it going to cool though? Sounds like Geforce 5 Dustbuster all over again...

ta dah!

what else could it be?

two 55nm GT260 cores .. should cream the X2

let Nvidia worry about the thermals; they manage their GX2's OK in the past
- get ready for another $600 videocard

I sure hope not. We don't need another useless card like the 4870X2. If we want 2 GPU's, we will SLI/Crossfire them.

 

[apoppin]

Originally posted by: WaitingForNehalem

Originally posted by: apoppin

Originally posted by: Astrallite
If the GT350 has twice the power of the 280, then it has to be a GX2 solution.

How's it going to cool though? Sounds like Geforce 5 Dustbuster all over again...

ta dah!

what else could it be?

two 55nm GT260 cores .. should cream the X2

let Nvidia worry about the thermals; they manage their GX2's OK in the past
- get ready for another $600 videocard

I sure hope not. We don't need another useless card like the 4870X2. If we want 2 GPU's, we will SLI/Crossfire them.

Speak for yourself, please.

i don't think my X2 is at all "useless"
- it is useful because i don't feel 2 GPUs are enough for me

i DO use CF x-3 on a CF MB - 4870x2 + 4870 .. soon to be on a x48 MB

Frankly .. now that i think about it,
i DO want the new GX2

.. with my 280GTX in the 2nd PCIe slot
:Q

you think Nvidia can have SLi-X by then?
- i know you can mix 'n match ,, a little now

 

[extra]

512bit DDR5 2GB memory,
480SP doubled GTX280

I don't know uhmm... This seems a tad unlikely to me?

I would believe an upgrade with like 25% more shaders, and 256bit ddr5, though.

 

[NickelPlate]

Meh. I'll believe it when I see it. It'll probably shape up to be another disappointment like everything else they've released since the first 8800 cards which so many of us are still using because nothing is *really* worth upgrading too. What is needed is something which absolutely crushes the 8800 series cards under no uncertain terms (real world performance). If they manage that, they'll have my money.

 

[dug777]

Heh.

Austin are where I buy everything.

Prices are competitive with online vendors, but you get to shout at someone irl if things break.

 

[badnewcastle]

Seems legit, I wonder if AC is going to be hit posting the products early.

EVGA added at least 10 new video cards to their "B-Stock".

I know these were added at the end of last week:

8800 GTS (G92)
8800 GTS KO (G92)
8800 GTX
8800 ULTRA
9800 GTX
9800 GTX KO
9800 GTX SSC
9800 GX2
9800 GX2 KO
9800 GX2 SSC

I check that page all the time as I'm going to be replacing my 8800GT when I find the right card at the right price.

It seems like Nvidia is about to release something because the last time they added cards, they released the 9800GTX+, GTX 260 and GTX 280.

 

[Tempered81]

Originally posted by: badnewcastle

EVGA added at least 10 new video cards to their "B-Stock".

gx2 for $229

8800gts 512 for $99

HOT!

 

[Genx87]

GT350 sounds like a 280x2 product. Which would be compelling in of itself to compete and beat the 4870x2.

 

[sourthings]

Originally posted by: Genx87
GT350 sounds like a 280x2 product. Which would be compelling in of itself to compete and beat the 4870x2.

There is never going to be a 280GX2, it's too big and too hot. You won't see this happen. Even with the upcoming die shrink. Quite likely there will never be a 260GX2 either, but it's still possible.

 

[Genx87]

Originally posted by: sourthings

Originally posted by: Genx87
GT350 sounds like a 280x2 product. Which would be compelling in of itself to compete and beat the 4870x2.

There is never going to be a 280GX2, it's too big and too hot. You won't see this happen. Even with the upcoming die shrink. Quite likely there will never be a 260GX2 either, but it's still possible.

If the specs are correct that is essentially what it is.

 

[OCGuy]

Originally posted by: NickelPlate
Meh. I'll believe it when I see it. It'll probably shape up to be another disappointment like everything else they've released since the first 8800 cards which so many of us are still using because nothing is *really* worth upgrading too.

Really? The 280 isnt "worth it" from a 8800? You game on a 6 inch monitor? What planet are you from?

Hell, going from 260-280 was worth it to me. I guess its all relative....

 

[NickelPlate]

Originally posted by: Ocguy31

Originally posted by: NickelPlate
Meh. I'll believe it when I see it. It'll probably shape up to be another disappointment like everything else they've released since the first 8800 cards which so many of us are still using because nothing is *really* worth upgrading too.

Really? The 280 isnt "worth it" from a 8800? You game on a 6 inch monitor? What planet are you from?

Hell, going from 260-280 was worth it to me. I guess its all relative....

Gee, your funny. As long as we're being snarky, I guess you're pretty easily impressed. 20 to 30 fps better (often less) in many games old and new over an 8800gtx which is almost 2 years old constitutes "not much progress" in my book. But like you said, it's all relative.

 

[OCGuy]

Originally posted by: NickelPlate

Originally posted by: Ocguy31

Originally posted by: NickelPlate
Meh. I'll believe it when I see it. It'll probably shape up to be another disappointment like everything else they've released since the first 8800 cards which so many of us are still using because nothing is *really* worth upgrading too.

Really? The 280 isnt "worth it" from a 8800? You game on a 6 inch monitor? What planet are you from?

Hell, going from 260-280 was worth it to me. I guess its all relative....

Gee, your funny. As long as we're being snarky, I guess you're pretty easily impressed. 20 to 30 fps better (often less) in many games old and new over an 8800gtx which is almost 2 years old constitutes "not much progress" in my book. But like you said, it's all relative.

If those 20 or 30 FPS make the difference from non-playable FPS to actually being able to play with AA/AF at higher resolutions, that sounds like progress to me.

Im seeing a 9800GTX which is basically the 8800GTX get it's framerates almost doubled on COD4 with eye candy...

http://www.tomshardware.com/re...a-gtx-280,1953-16.html


Im not sure what benchmarks you read...?