GeForce GTX 275 VS. Radeon HD 4890 Video Card Battle

[Kakkoii]

http://www.legitreviews.com/article/1027/1/

Final Thoughts and Conclusions:

This article included the performance analysis of the video games Velvet Assassin and Wall-E, along with the OpenGL benchmark FurMark. I feel it's always good to switch things up and to go out and buy a couple games every now and again to see how video card performance is on games that the driver team really hasn't spent much time on optimizing. The results of the three new benchmarks showed that the GeForce GTX 275 was the more powerful video card between the two models I took a closer look at here today.

When it comes to price, the GeForce GTX 275 with 896MB of GDDR3 memory can be found for $209.99 shipped. The ASUS Radeon HD 4890 Graphics Card with 1GB of GDDR5 memory that we used in the review runs $239.00 shipped, but other brands like XFX use the the same reference design can be picked up for $195.39 shipped. There is basically a $15 price difference between the two cards, with the Radeon HD 4890 being less expensive. This makes sense as the GeForce GTX 275 appears to be the stronger card on the five benchmarks I looked at today and the six that I looked at back in April during our launch coverage.

 

[Qbah]

Why anger them ? Looks pretty competitive imo - a bit slower in Velvet Assasin, Wall-E gets 100+FPS on both anyway so who cares about the exact number, a bit faster in HAWX and the rest is useless synthetic tests.

Here in Denmark the HD4890 is a bit cheaper, but they're priced so low anyway, it's hardly a difference. Might as well flip a coin Translates into 280$ vs. 240$

 

[reallyscrued]

Yeah...damn. The ATI card can be found for 15% cheaper and offers performance no less than 15% of the nVidia card.

If that doesn't enrage ATI fanboys, I dunno what will.

 

[nib95]

Do any of the ATI vendors do lifetime warranties yet though? Namely in the UK.

 

[Cookie Monster]

Same here. ATi cards are ~50 dollars cheaper compared to its counterparts.

The thread title sounds like a flamebait though.

Why are you trying to stir up the hornets nest?

 

[thilanliyan]

Picking a winner based on ONE review is not the best way to do it anyway. Read several reviews and THEN decide.

 

[vj8usa]

That was a terrible roundup of games they used. A total of three games, one of which gives framerates so high that you wouldn't be able to see any difference between the two cards. And then they only tested at one resolution for each game. Hell, from what they showed in this review, I'd conclude that the 4890 was the better card in terms of providing playable framerates - WALL-E's framerates are completely playable on both cards, the 275 is less than 6% faster in Velvet Assassin, and the 4890 is a whopping 47% faster at max settings in HAWX.

 

[dguy6789]

Benchmark results don't anger anybody. If you want to anger people, spread misinformation and lies.

 

[Schmide]

What no Last Remnant?

 

[dflynchimp]

the performance difference is close enough that competitive pricing will negate it. I also agree with Qbah that alot of those tests are synths that don't really make or break buying decisions.

Packaging, warranties and perf/$$$ in popular games and perhaps side benefits (physX or 10.1) will be the ultimate selling point.

 

[Lonyo]

So wait, a performance difference about the same as the price difference in one test, a performance difference that doesn't even matter since both cards apparently get over 100fps minimum anyway, and then a WIN for ATI at the highest graphics settings in a final test (HAWX 10/10.1) - i can call it a win because others can call it a loss - means that the GTX275 is the more powerful card?
The Radeon 4890 is almost 50% faster in HAWX with everything turned up! Clearly it's significantly more powerful than anything the GTX275 can produce. The biggest win for the GTX is less than 25% (in HAWX, funnily enough), so clearly the almost 50% faster the Radeon is (in HAWX) means it's more powerful than the GTX which can only be up to 20% faster (in HAWX).

 

[JSt0rm]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WWaLxFIVX1s

 

[Elfear]

Originally posted by: JSt0rm01
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WWaLxFIVX1s

That was great. Good thing I had already finished my drink or it would have been all over my keyboard. Thanks JSt0rm01.

 

[thilanliyan]

Originally posted by: JSt0rm01
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WWaLxFIVX1s

Lol.

 

[error8]

Well, the only game that matters out of those three, is Hawx, where the ATi card shines in dx10 and dx 10.1 ( nobody plays in dx 9 anyway and win98). So I would say that it's a clear victory for the ATi card. Of course, that if one plays only Wall-E ( first time I heard of it) or Velvet Assasin ( 5/10 from reviews) then GTX 275 is the only way to go. Better yet, if you only play Wall-E you should also throw away your computer and start doing mountain biking or something.

If you want to choose one card over the other, you should base your opinion on any other review then this one.

 

[reallyscrued]

Originally posted by: Lonyo
The biggest win for the GTX is less than 25% (in HAWX, funnily enough), so clearly the almost 50% faster the Radeon is (in HAWX) means it's more powerful than the GTX which can only be up to 20% faster (in HAWX).

*head asplodes*

And error 8, I still run XP, and still use DX9.

 

[arkcom]

the Radeon 4890 can be had for around $180 almost any time. $239? wft.

 

[toyota]

I am just glad I dont have to crossfire 4890s to play Wall-E...

 

[Qbah]

Originally posted by: arkcom
the Radeon 4890 can be had for around $180 almost any time. $239? wft.

The ASUS Radeon HD 4890 Graphics Card with 1GB of GDDR5 memory that we used in the review runs $239.00 shipped, but other brands like XFX use the the same reference design can be picked up for $195.39 shipped.

 

[Kakkoii]

Here's how I see it though.

Since the price/performance ratio is even between them. Then you need something to sway you towards one or the other. And Nvidia has just that. CUDA, PhysX, and their 3D glasses thing. Sure, those things may not be used by every developer, but it's used enough for it to be a plus. Thus making the Nvidia card a better choice in this scenario .

 

[myocardia]

Originally posted by: toyota
I am just glad I dont have to crossfire 4890s to play Wall-E...

Hah, I'm just glad that you admitted to playing Wall-E, so we can point and laugh.

 

[Qbah]

Originally posted by: Kakkoii
Here's how I see it though.

Since the price/performance ratio is even between them. Then you need something to sway you towards one or the other. And Nvidia has just that. CUDA, PhysX, and their 3D glasses thing. Sure, those things may not be used by every developer, but it's used enough for it to be a plus. Thus making the Nvidia card a better choice in this scenario .

If you value PhysX or have some apps that are written for CUDA or have a 120hz monitor and the glasses, then yes - the GTX275 is a better buy. Thing is, that's not the case for all people And they may find spending a bit less the better criteria - then no, the HD4890 would be a better candidate for them. Not to mention ... not everybody lives in the US - the price difference is bigger in most of the world - for some people this bigger price difference may turn them towards the AMD card.

 

[error8]

Originally posted by: Kakkoii
Here's how I see it though.

Since the price/performance ratio is even between them. Then you need something to sway you towards one or the other. And Nvidia has just that. CUDA, PhysX, and their 3D glasses thing. Sure, those things may not be used by every developer, but it's used enough for it to be a plus. Thus making the Nvidia card a better choice in this scenario .

Since the ATi card has dx 10.1 ( amazing stuff, there is so much you can do with it, just like PhysX ) and the price is lower, and, I don't give a rat's ass for CUDA, neither I do for the 3d glasses, so, all of this would sway me towards 4890.

 

[Kakkoii]

Originally posted by: error8

Originally posted by: Kakkoii
Here's how I see it though.

Since the price/performance ratio is even between them. Then you need something to sway you towards one or the other. And Nvidia has just that. CUDA, PhysX, and their 3D glasses thing. Sure, those things may not be used by every developer, but it's used enough for it to be a plus. Thus making the Nvidia card a better choice in this scenario .

Since the ATi card has dx 10.1 ( amazing stuff, there is so much you can do with it, just like PhysX ) and the price is lower, and, I don't give a rat's ass for CUDA, neither I do for the 3d glasses, so, all of this would sway me towards 4890.

Lol, 10.1 is hardly "amazing stuff". It's a few tweaks for more image quality control, and support for parallel cube mapping. All it can really do for a game is improve the frame rate a bit.

While PhysX can add more realism to games, and also makes for interesting interactive game play.

 

[error8]

Originally posted by: Kakkoii


Lol, 10.1 is hardly "amazing stuff". It's a few tweaks for more image quality control, and support for parallel cube mapping. All it can really do for a game is improve the frame rate a bit.

Absolutely correct! I was sarcastic. Dx 10.1 is nothing really, just like PhysX.

Originally posted by: Kakkoii

While PhysX can add more realism to games, and also makes for interesting interactive game play.

What you've said here it's like: " I'm a Nvidia fanboy! Just let me be."