Geforce FX 5900 Ultra VS Radeon 9800 Pro 256 mb

[ZimZum]

Originally posted by: BenSkywalker

Have fun getting Half-Life 2 and Doom 3 on those consoles any time soon

Doom3 has already been announced for the XBox.

Half Life 2 will also be coming to the XBOX.

 

[touchmyichi]

I can't stand playing fps games on console. Its a lot harder to play using a controller

 

[Pete]

Originally posted by: Rogozhin
Peter

I too saw those rendering errors in sc with the fx but can't seem to find the link, I'll continue looking.

rogo

Found 'em.\

Looking at the ATI and NVIDIA images side by side, the first thing you notice is that the images are far from identical. First, we focus our attention towards the light fixtures on the porch. In the Radeon 9500 image, there is a bloom of light around each bulb. Moving over to the NVIDIA screenshots, we find the light is essentially a yellow trapezoid with no lighting effects whatsoever. In similar fashion, we see a lack of lighting effects on and around the main character on the NVIDIA cards. Specifically looking at the light on the device on his back, you see that the green LCD screen is a flat color on the GeForce FX cards though it gives off a haze as you would expect when visualized on the Radeon 9500 Pro. Likewise, the characters head seems to also be flat on the NVIDIA cards. When looking at the ATI image, his head seems rounded and the whole scene comes as being much more realistic. Now compare the shadows behind the lattice and the ability to look through it on the ATI card. Lastly look at the dead guy on the patio. The ATI card shows the model to be laying "under" the cast shadow as one might think, while the NVIDIA card seems to spotlight the model while leaving the shadow underneath.

Overall, we were surprised to see that the NVIDIA cards were experiencing such trouble with this game's lighting effects considering that it is a popular Xbox title ( running on NVIDIA hardware ). In situations like this it is hard to say who is "wrong" and who is "right" as we actually need the gamedev to make the call. I think we can all agree that in this specific example, there is no doubt that the ATI card is delivering a better quality of image than the GeForceFX. At this time, NVIDIA engineers are looking in on this matter.

 

[Mitsarugi]

Does Anyone know when you can buy a 5900?
I have just built a new PC at home and all it needs is a video card.
I was going to get a Ati 9800 but I want the 5900 now.
I hope it's only a week or so.

 

[Mem]

Mitsarugi,I would say you probably won`t see any 5900 cards until the end of June at the earliest.

Btw welcome to the AT forums.

 

[Mitsarugi]

Grrrr. I can't wait that long..
Ok How come I can't find a 256 Radeon either
Damn nivida why would they announce it and not have it for sale?
I don't know what to do now?

 

[Pete]

All card makers allow their cards to be reviewed at least a month before it's available on shelves. Expect the 256MB 9800P to be on shelves within days, though, while the 256 & 128MB 5900U's should be on shelves by the end of June, according to card makers.

Honestly, I'd recommend waiting until the 5900U is available next month and then recheck for new reviews to see how it compares to the 9800P at that time. If you must buy now, though, and you must have 256MB memory on a top-end card, the 9800P is your only choice, and not a bad one by any means. (I think 256MB is wasted on slower cards like the 5600, so I wouldn't advise them. Your call, tho--you may play the rare game with >100MB's textures, in which case ponying up a little extra for 256MB RAM will be worth it.)

 

[Clauzii]

Sorry - Wrong post...

 

[link26]

256mb? pfttt

I'm waiting for the 768MB geforce card............... in the future.

then i can store whole game cd's in my vid ram.

 

[nutxo]

Originally posted by: coomarlin
The 5900 looks pretty impressive. It's a nice comeback by nVidia. The super high quality numbers are fantastic! But with all of the hype over the 5900 don't forget though what ATI has done for the industry over the last 2 years. It was ATI that single handedly kept nVidia from becoming a monopoly. Matrox couldn't do it. Sis couldn't do it. No one else could do it. I've got a ton of respect for ATI after battling back from the Rage Fury days when they were badmouthed and just downright uncompetitive. I've always tried to support the underdog just like I support AMD. Anyway, this competition among nVidia and ATI is very healthy and leaves us with some kicka$$ video cards. As long as the price is right I wouldn't have a qualm about buying either of these brands. $500 is a little rediculous for any video card, but $200-$300 seems pretty reasonable.

umm, it was Nvidia that kept 3dfx from becoming a monopoly. Ati was still sitting around with its thumb up its butt busy being despised for pathetic driver support and the only good product they had was a freakin tv card,..

Its not what any corporation has done for any industry, its the consumers that buy the products that drive the market. ATI really isnt doin anyone a favor aside from it stockholders.

 

[NicColt]

>ATI really isnt doin anyone a favor aside from it stockholders.

"aside from it's stockholder" your kidding right ???

I still haven't recovered from the August 2000 insider trading from the axis of corruption from the top of ATI in the form of Kwok Yuen Ho, Betty Ho and Jo-Anne Chang. They basically lied to their stockholders in order to steal money from them. Personally I hope these bastards end up in Jail where they belong.

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In August of 2000 ATI failed to disclose information concerning the shortfall in revenues and earnings that occurred in the third quarter of fiscal 2000, as required by the listing rules of the Toronto Stock Exchange. The Notice also alleges that ATI made a misleading statement to Staff of the Commission in August 2000 regarding the events leading up to the disclosure on May 24, 2000 of the shortfall. Seven individuals are also named in the Notice. The Notice alleges that six of these individuals, including K.Y. Ho, the Chief Executive Officer of ATI, engaged in insider trading contrary to the Securities Act.