GeForce 6 series video processor OFFICIAL THREAD

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epking

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lonewolf, thanks bro. Yeah, these features were cited over and over in every preview at all these hardware sites, and then repeated in the reviews. I think one or two of the 20 or so reviews of the 6800u noticed at first that the on chip processor feature didn't appear to be enabled yet. from what i remember, Nvidia stayed dead silent for about 4 months. Everyone assumed it would come in a driver update.

I saw this posted at one of those links, a guy named mr_allroy , its funny as hell:

"Take a broken product and sell it as "Onboard Video Decoding". Sell millions to unwitting customers. When the heat gets too hot, slap a new name "PureVideo" and pray you didn't F@#K up this batch as well.

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"Business practices for Nvidia or How to fleece those that help put food on your table and do absolutely NOTHING about it""
 
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nvidia - the way it's meant to be played.....

All nVidia is doing is playing with it's customers!!!! I mean, what kind of company touts a broken feature and then asks you to pay for it?

aarrrrggghh!!!!

Next thing they'll do: "you have to pay 40$ to download the SLi capable drivers!!!!
 
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Originally posted by: MDme
nvidia - the way it's meant to be played.....

All nVidia is doing is playing with it's customers!!!! I mean, what kind of company touts a broken feature and then asks you to pay for it?

aarrrrggghh!!!!

Next thing they'll do: "you have to pay 40$ to download the SLi capable drivers!!!!
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no, how about this one...sli doesn't work at all at first, so nforce4 owners are saying WTF? for 6 months...and Nvidia says the drivers will fix them, ect...all the while Rollo castigates anyone who dares to speak out. Then Nvidia say that its working, its just not enabled in drivers...and they will release drivers next month....then the 15th the following, then the following. Then they change the name to something like "pure sli" and say its finally coming. They release the drivers, but everybody has to pay for them, but only 6600 owners can take full advantage of it.
:confused: yeah, that makes perfect sense doesn't it. LOL.


My favorite part about this pure video release is that since the dvd hardware accel was broken, I bought the codecs a day or so after my card. So, I've been waiting 6 weeks for this god damn driver fix, and it doesn't do a bloody thing for me.... I mean it doesn't do squat for me as far as features. Oh, you mean purevideo means I can buy your codecs for $19.99?? gee thanks.... I already did that:cool:
 
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Have to comment on these article clips.
Well, was it worth the wait? Considering that PureVideo came as a free feature on GeForce 6 cards, it's more like unwrapping an early Christmas present - one that we were promised eight months ago.
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How does this guy figure 20$ is free? Also their review, neglects to compare the performance with this 20$ dvd decoder to the performance without the DVD decoder. Why compare to an ATI card? We already have the 6xxx series cards here. Compare to see if Purevideo is better than non pure video.
In the end, PureVideo is a positive feature for GeForce 6 owners, a verdict that we are glad we can finally give
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Pretty odd conclusion to reach since he offers no test results to indicate that.
Also his link for the free test version of the decoderseems to lead to yahoo and not a free test. What I cant believe is how he thinks we are going to be happy to pay another 20$. I already paid 400$ for this card that was supposed to have that as a feature from the git go. As a tech reviewer this site leaves something to be desired.
 
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epking

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Originally posted by: ScottFern
Did the 71.03 drivers ever get released today?!
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lol, yeah, but Rollo was wrong. Don't mind saying that at all. Anyways, the long and short of it is this...if you have a 6800 series, then they want you to buy their dvd decoders for $19.99. Other than that, there is no difference to these drivers, other than being called "purevideo" LOL, that seems absurd, but it is true.

If you own a 6600 series, you are lovin these drivers, they enable the WinHD acceleration, and the on chip decoder is now at least fuctional on these cards. Of course you need to buy the $19.99 codecs as well

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edit: My bad man, I'm using the 71.20's and assumed the 71.03s came out. I'm using the same features now though when paired with the card. Apparently, from whats been said, you can even use the 67.03 purevideo beta drivers at nzone, and couple that with the new codecs, and you will for all intents and purposes have the full functionality as you'll ever get on these 6800 cards. What is that you ask? Basic DX9 accelerated DVD playback basically. Same thing any old card has. Except these do have really good iq. This has basically nothing to do with the on chip video decoder we were promised though.
 
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I just ran the Step into Liquid video AGAIN.

This time with 71.20 drivers and the NVIDIA DVD Decoder 1.00.58 (thank you bitttorent).

CPU utilization was between 40-51% Now I don't know if thats even good or not, but thats what I got.

Just letting you guys know! All my system specs are in my sig.
 
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thsi whole thing just stinks.....ive only got half of what i payed for in my eyes...i payed for good gaming and good encoding decoding with the PVP, oh great yes the PVP works to a limited extent with the nv decoder set which i think they have a cheek asking u to pay for, but the PVP may as well not exist on the 6800GT/6800 Utra.....theyve enabled next to nothing on those

why cant nivida jus say "yes we suck, we messed up big....AGAIN, we shouldnt of had that open bar staff party the night we designed the PVP, we would like to recall all NV40 chips and give u back fully working new ones"

never gonna happen i know, but i can at least dream
 
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imported_humey

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Hmm whats the post above about, did mod edit it or you yourself in bold.

I hate the nvidia dvd proggy man its crap you got to ideally put the wmvhd in the your video folder so it find instead browsing, then you got to go and find exe in installed folder (i made shortcut), run it then use arrow keys up and down along with enter and escape keys to work it, no real console like all rest of players, i did get around 10% less cpu use but thats going to happen from player to player anyhow, i need try when these proper drivers release, im still on beta ones, 67.03 i think.
 
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Originally posted by: supernac
Anand is a fanboy, this is lame wish I would of went with ATI.
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He's not a fanboy, yes this is lame, and if you'd gone with ATi, your DVD playback and hardware acceleration would be equal to your current card at best.
 
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This is an extension of what I wrote before. Has anyone figured out how to connect the video output from the Nvidia DVD Decoder?

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I placed all 3 possible render filters (VMR9(video mixing renderer 9), VMR7(Video renderer), and Overlay(video renderer)), and none of them would connect to the output pin of the Decode filter. Anand's article says he got it to work with zoomplayer, but zoomplayer just does what I am trying to do here, which is connect the Nvidia DVD Decoder with other generic DirectShow filters so we can use its acceleration.
 
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Acanthus

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Go buy a 6600 if you even have the capability to display the resolutions you people are crying about.

For christs sake this is a checkmark feature... If you have a 6800GT/U you should CERTAINLY have enough CPU to run these WMV-HD files anyway...

Whats another $150 for the PVP? Then you can watch your whopping 5 movies that even support it.

Seriously this doesnt even warrant this thread, i couldnt possibly care less, and i do tons of encoding and decoding.
 
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Originally posted by: Cat
Originally posted by: supernac
Anand is a fanboy, this is lame wish I would of went with ATI.
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He's not a fanboy, yes this is lame, and if you'd gone with ATi, your DVD playback and hardware acceleration would be equal to your current card at best.
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Actually, while ATI never advertised hardware WMV9, it appears that it will indeed become a possibility. Currently it is buggy, as evidenced by Anandtech when they enabled it in existing drivers, but as this is very pre-release with ATI, I'd expect that. The big issue is that ATI didn't tout WMV9 acceleration the way nVidia did. And yet, it is likely that X800 owners, and possibly owners of even earlier cards will come out better than Geforce 6800 owners will in the long run.

Not saying Anand is a fanboy; I disagree with supernac there. I do believe that major hardware review sites aren't raising much of a fuss though; I believe this is because they worry that nVidia will stop sending them cards to review. So, everyone owning a card that doesn't work will be quietly swept under the rug unless we refuse to let the issue die (at the expense of being called "whiners" by everyone who doesn't use this feature or doesn't own a broken card).

 
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Acanthus, no one cares what you think and thats not cheek, as nvidia told us the n40 would do all this and it dont, so wheather you en/decode ot not its still principle as i exampled b4 with the public anounced top speed of a Ferarri, im not going to repeat so u can look back some pages.

If something doesnt perform or do as it was claim to do its sue time.

None of us moaning are cheapskates we all got top of range cards, so why should £150 card do what it says on box if my £410 card dont.
 
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As far as I'm concerned we're done here. For myself it has been a quest for answers, and I have gotten them. Our suspicions that the PVP was borked on our 6800series cards was correct so do what you will with the information.

I paid $300 for my GT OC instead of $400 so I got equity borked PVP and all. I therefore do not feel any reparations are necessary in my case. For those of you who paid full price, good luck in your quest to obtain some form of compensation for having paid for features you did not recieve :)

As to the deceptive advertising, lack of communication, and heavily censored feel to the reviews of the looong awaited PVP features, I rejoice that I do not have to be a servile lacky to corporate thugs that has to repeat their propaganda and endorse their defective products in order too pay my bills :beer:
 
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much like DAPUN...I only paid $340 for my card, so I don't feel that I'm at a total loss. It was just something that would have been "nice to have", but I didn't even know about this feature when I bought it, so I probably won't miss it much. I bought a gaming card, and that's what I got. Oh well...

I still feel bitter about the whole runaround that nVidia, along with their fanboys gave us.
 
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DAPUNISHER, I feel the same way. You and I bought that $300 GT OC together. I was deeply disappointed when we first got our suspicions about the defective PVP and promptly sold my card in disgust over the matter. I've bought the 6800 Ultra OC couple weeks ago for $389 and knew Nvidia was lying and stalling and chances for actual fix was like 0%. But unlike the first round, I knew the situation going in so I don't feel Nvidia owes me anything this time. I'll get my couple months of gaming use out of this card and simply sell it for around what I paid for it. By then more PCIe solutions should be available along with better stepping Winchester core and both Nvidia NF4 SLI and Via SLI chipsets.
 
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Originally posted by: Naustica
DAPUNISHER, I feel the same way. You and I bought that $300 GT OC together. I was deeply disappointed when we first got our suspicions about the defective PVP and promptly sold my card in disgust over the matter. I've bought the 6800 Ultra OC couple weeks ago for $389 and knew Nvidia was lying and stalling and chances for actual fix was like 0%. But unlike the first round, I knew the situation going in so I don't feel Nvidia owes me anything this time. I'll get my couple months of gaming use out of this card and simply sell it for around what I paid for it. By then more PCIe solutions should be available along with better stepping Winchester core and both Nvidia NF4 SLI and Via SLI chipsets.
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That is a great price for a U OC! :Q Btw, very sensible position you have taken, no surprise there :)
 
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