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Gears of War: This is a tough game

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Psynaut

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One of my biggest complaints about the newer shooters is that they are too easy even on the hardest settings. In FEAR 2 I never used the time slow feature, in Crysis I never use the cloak feature. I can't figure out why they don't include an option that makes the game a little challenging. And I am just a casual player, I've got to think a lot of other people, with a lot more skillz than me, feel the same way.

So in between new releases I go back and play some classics that I missed, since I didn't game for a stretch of years, and last week I installed Gears of War for the PC and have played about half-way through.

What a pleasant surprise, there are three difficulty settings and I am playing on the middle setting and getting my ass handed to me in certain encounters, and rather than avoiding using 'crutch' features, I am looking for any advantage I can get. I can't even imagine trying to beat this game on the hardest setting. It's kinda nice.



 
Originally posted by: Psynaut
One of my biggest complaints about the newer shooters is that they are too easy even on the hardest settings. In FEAR 2 I never used the time slow feature, in Crysis I never use the cloak feature. I can't figure out why they don't include an option that makes the game a little challenging. And I am just a casual player, I've got to think a lot of other people, with a lot more skillz than me, feel the same way.

So in between new releases I go back and play some classics that I missed, since I didn't game for a stretch of years, and last week I installed Gears of War for the PC and have played about half-way through.

What a pleasant surprise, there are three difficulty settings and I am playing on the middle setting and getting my ass handed to me in certain encounters, and rather than avoiding using 'crutch' features, I am looking for any advantage I can get. I can't even imagine trying to beat this game on the hardest setting. It's kinda nice.
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Try playing Call of Duty 4 on the hardest setting sometime.
 
Originally posted by: Psynaut
One of my biggest complaints about the newer shooters is that they are too easy even on the hardest settings. In FEAR 2 I never used the time slow feature, in Crysis I never use the cloak feature. I can't figure out why they don't include an option that makes the game a little challenging. And I am just a casual player, I've got to think a lot of other people, with a lot more skillz than me, feel the same way.

So in between new releases I go back and play some classics that I missed, since I didn't game for a stretch of years, and last week I installed Gears of War for the PC and have played about half-way through.

What a pleasant surprise, there are three difficulty settings and I am playing on the middle setting and getting my ass handed to me in certain encounters, and rather than avoiding using 'crutch' features, I am looking for any advantage I can get. I can't even imagine trying to beat this game on the hardest setting. It's kinda nice.
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I've beaten Insane on both the 360 and PC version of Gears. What you have to realize is that on Insane, staying out of cover for more than three seconds = insta-gib.

You also really learn to love powerful one-shot weapons like Frags, the Torque Bow and the Longshot. I would say the Boomshot too, but it is so rare and has like no ammo that it doesn't really count.

Oh, and glitching RAAM is absolutely required. That or doing the Torque/Longshot trick.
 
I am playing Gears on easy and it's fun. These days I tend to just stick to the lower-middle difficulty setting in my games. Going higher tends to just increase the number of times I die and reload, which is simply frustrating and time-consuming. The real challenge comes from things like multiplayer or replaying the game on a harder difficulty once you've finished it on easy. By the time you've finished the game, the harder difficulties aren't so frustrating anymore.
 
Oh, and if you play on Insane, you were learn to absolutely LOATHE, "Look at all that juice!"

WTB checkpoint after all the talking. 🙁
 
Originally posted by: AstroManLuca

Try playing Call of Duty 4 on the hardest setting sometime.
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I did, that game is definitely tough at that setting. I got really stuck at the part where you have to get from the barn, through the field, back down past the crashed chopper. My windows crashed after like my 20th attempt, and I lost my saved games and I never reloaded it, but that is a good idea,, I should beat that on max.

Originally posted by: RyanPaulShaffer
I've beaten Insane on both the 360 and PC version of Gears. What you have to realize is that on Insane, staying out of cover for more than three seconds = insta-gib.

You also really learn to love powerful one-shot weapons like Frags, the Torque Bow and the Longshot. I would say the Boomshot too, but it is so rare and has like no ammo that it doesn't really count.

Oh, and glitching RAAM is absolutely required. That or doing the Torque/Longshot trick.
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I am at the spot right after I crossed over the planks that break, and you go down into a basement and like 8 of those glowing creatures bum-rush you at once, and you have to kill them all, but if you are next to them when you do they explode and kill you too. I did it on the easiest setting just to prove to myself it is possible, but now I need to beat it on medium and it is tough. I just keep backing up around the room and shooting.

Originally posted by: AstroManLuca
Oh, and glitching RAAM is absolutely required. That or doing the Torque/Longshot trick.
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What is this?
 
Originally posted by: Psynaut
I am at the spot right after I crossed over the planks that break, and you go down into a basement and like 8 of those glowing creatures bum-rush you at once, and you have to kill them all, but if you are next to them when you do they explode and kill you too. I did it on the easiest setting just to prove to myself it is possible, but it is tough, even on medium. I just keep backing up around the room and shooting.
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Yes, Lambent Wretches crush you, especially on Insane, where if you are anywhere near them when they explode, it is an insta-gib.

The best solution is to keep moving and shoot from the hip. You can aim FOR A SECOND with the shotgun, but then you'd better roll the heck out of there before they explode.

Wait until you get to the train car full of Lambent Wretches in Act 5. 😉
 
Originally posted by: Psynaut
Originally posted by: AstroManLuca

Try playing Call of Duty 4 on the hardest setting sometime.
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I did, that game is definitely tough at that setting. I got really stuck at the part where you have to get from the barn, through the field, back down past the crashed chopper. My windows crashed after like my 20th attempt, and I lost my saved games and I never reloaded it, but that is a good idea,, I should beat that on max.
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Wait, which part is that? Is that the one during the daytime where you spent the previous night advancing up the hill and then the next day you have to rush down to GET TO DA CHOPPA? If so, I didn't have TOO much trouble with that part... sure I had to reload several times, but it's all about finding the correct path.

The parts that killed me were:

- Immediately before the AC-130 mission, "Death from Above," you have to go through a greenhouse and then advance to a barn at night while a helicopter is shooting at you. Getting into the barn is practically impossible even on Hardened.
- The nighttime mission where you advance up the hill and can call in helicopter support was pretty nasty. The heli rarely helps much and there aren't many checkpoints.
- Getting through the War Room mission is tough, especially the part where you have to go through this one area with a bunch of corridors and there are enemies to both sides. I always have to throw a flashbang down one side and shoot the guy on the other side, and then I have to hide behind a pipe and shoot guys as they appear. Took me 40-50 tries. Once I got through that, the rest was pie.
 
Originally posted by: AstroManLuca
Originally posted by: Psynaut
Originally posted by: AstroManLuca

Try playing Call of Duty 4 on the hardest setting sometime.
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I did, that game is definitely tough at that setting. I got really stuck at the part where you have to get from the barn, through the field, back down past the crashed chopper. My windows crashed after like my 20th attempt, and I lost my saved games and I never reloaded it, but that is a good idea,, I should beat that on max.
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Wait, which part is that? Is that the one during the daytime where you spent the previous night advancing up the hill and then the next day you have to rush down to GET TO DA CHOPPA? If so, I didn't have TOO much trouble with that part... sure I had to reload several times, but it's all about finding the correct path.

The parts that killed me were:

- Immediately before the AC-130 mission, "Death from Above," you have to go through a greenhouse and then advance to a barn at night while a helicopter is shooting at you. Getting into the barn is practically impossible even on Hardened.
- The nighttime mission where you advance up the hill and can call in helicopter support was pretty nasty. The heli rarely helps much and there aren't many checkpoints.
- Getting through the War Room mission is tough, especially the part where you have to go through this one area with a bunch of corridors and there are enemies to both sides. I always have to throw a flashbang down one side and shoot the guy on the other side, and then I have to hide behind a pipe and shoot guys as they appear. Took me 40-50 tries. Once I got through that, the rest was pie.
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It has been a while, but you get to the barn by shooting some enemy down the side of a hill, then you have to run to a crashed helicopter and shoot from the machine gun, then into a house and set off 4 charges, then you run up a hill, through a field and to a barn. Where it autosaves. So that part I was ok with.

But next, and this is the part I haven't beat, you have to go back down again, the way you came, while the enemy charges at you through the field. You can either run straight through the field, or go through a smaller barn to the right and sneak down a gully. You have to cross a road and get back down the hill to the crashed chopper and then I don't know what, because I haven't made it much past the road.
 
In FEAR 2 I never used the time slow feature
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FEAR 2 is pretty much a console port, and is designed with the controller in mind. I have FEAR 2 for the 360, and I use the time slow feature extensively because the game is not easy with a controller. I played the demo on PC, and it is much easier with a mouse/keyboard setup.
 
Originally posted by: Psynaut
Originally posted by: AstroManLuca
Originally posted by: Psynaut
Originally posted by: AstroManLuca

Try playing Call of Duty 4 on the hardest setting sometime.
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I did, that game is definitely tough at that setting. I got really stuck at the part where you have to get from the barn, through the field, back down past the crashed chopper. My windows crashed after like my 20th attempt, and I lost my saved games and I never reloaded it, but that is a good idea,, I should beat that on max.
Click to expand...

Wait, which part is that? Is that the one during the daytime where you spent the previous night advancing up the hill and then the next day you have to rush down to GET TO DA CHOPPA? If so, I didn't have TOO much trouble with that part... sure I had to reload several times, but it's all about finding the correct path.

The parts that killed me were:

- Immediately before the AC-130 mission, "Death from Above," you have to go through a greenhouse and then advance to a barn at night while a helicopter is shooting at you. Getting into the barn is practically impossible even on Hardened.
- The nighttime mission where you advance up the hill and can call in helicopter support was pretty nasty. The heli rarely helps much and there aren't many checkpoints.
- Getting through the War Room mission is tough, especially the part where you have to go through this one area with a bunch of corridors and there are enemies to both sides. I always have to throw a flashbang down one side and shoot the guy on the other side, and then I have to hide behind a pipe and shoot guys as they appear. Took me 40-50 tries. Once I got through that, the rest was pie.
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It has been a while, but you get to the barn by shooting some enemy down the side of a hill, then you have to run to a crashed helicopter and shoot from the machine gun, then into a house and set off 4 charges, then you run up a hill, through a field and to a barn. Where it autosaves. So that part I was ok with.

But next, and this is the part I haven't beat, you have to go back down again, the way you came, while the enemy charges at you through the field. You can either run straight through the field, or go through a smaller barn to the right and sneak down a gully. You have to cross a road and get back down the hill to the crashed chopper and then I don't know what, because I haven't made it much past the road.
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Yep, that's what I was referring to. A liberal use of airstrikes as well as watching someone do it on YouTube helped me a lot.
 
Originally posted by: RyanPaulShaffer
Oh, and if you play on Insane, you were learn to absolutely LOATHE, "Look at all that juice!"

WTB checkpoint after all the talking. 🙁
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lol I remember that part!

Really, really could have used another check point after all that walking and talking shit. Pissed me off.
 
Originally posted by: Cabages
Originally posted by: RyanPaulShaffer
Oh, and if you play on Insane, you were learn to absolutely LOATHE, "Look at all that juice!"

WTB checkpoint after all the talking. 🙁
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lol I remember that part!

Really, really could have used another check point after all that walking and talking shit. Pissed me off.
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You know, Gears of War just reminded me how much I hate it when games frequently interrupt whatever you're doing with a phone call that causes your character to be stuck in "ultra slow walk mode" while also being unable to shoot any weapons or do anything else. It's scary how many games do this... GTA IV, Gears of War, Dead Rising, and I'm sure there are many more. It's almost as though every console generation needs its own wallbanger of a stupid game design to crop up in every other game for no reason.
 
i practically gave up on GoW after I believe the part where you have to stay out of the light I think, I got a lil bored and turned to COD4 but now I think ill go back to Gow 😛 😛
 
GoW (both 1 and 2) were pretty easy on hardcore. I breezed through them both pretty quickly on my first time playing (i.e. the first and only mode I played on either was hardcore). The last boss of GoW 1 gave me trouble for a while, only because I kept trying to figure out how to use the turret gun against him. I think end, I just sniped him a bunch and won.

This is on the console version, though. I dunno if the PC version is harder.
 
OP post doesn't make sense, Crysis and Fear 2 easier than GOW? Are you playing the first 2 on easy and the last on insane? I'm not here to insult GOW (It's awful), but I've got to question this sort of accepted discussion of difficulty.

As far as difficulty in SP FPS games goes, I'd rather deal with satisfying difficulty, like Painkiller.
 
Originally posted by: RyanPaulShaffer
Oh, and if you play on Insane, you were learn to absolutely LOATHE, "Look at all that juice!"

WTB checkpoint after all the talking. 🙁
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Hahaha yeah... i got so sick of hearing that snide sounding guy telling me "theyre called theron guards...." as if you shouldve known that or something. Then getting shot in the face with rambo 1 hit kill explosive arrow... ugh.. gawd..
 
Originally posted by: Maximilian
Originally posted by: RyanPaulShaffer
Oh, and if you play on Insane, you were learn to absolutely LOATHE, "Look at all that juice!"

WTB checkpoint after all the talking. 🙁
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Hahaha yeah... i got so sick of hearing that snide sounding guy telling me "theyre called theron guards...." as if you shouldve known that or something. Then getting shot in the face with rambo 1 hit kill explosive arrow... ugh.. gawd..
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haha yeah i HATED going through dialogue portions and cutscenes right *after* a checkpoint. i wonder who thought that was a good idea? although turning the tables on those bastards is always good fun.

oh yeah, if anyone on AT wants to play some gears online, i'd be down 🙂
 
Dom: "What was that?"
Marcus: "Just the wind."
Dom: "When was the last time the wind said 'Hostiles!' to you?"
Marcus: "THERON GUARDS!"

I practically have that scene memorized. One torque arrow, and it's all the way back to "lookit all that juice!"
 
Originally posted by: skace
OP post doesn't make sense, Crysis and Fear 2 easier than GOW? Are you playing the first 2 on easy and the last on insane? I'm not here to insult GOW (It's awful), but I've got to question this sort of accepted discussion of difficulty.

As far as difficulty in SP FPS games goes, I'd rather deal with satisfying difficulty, like Painkiller.
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I played both Crysis and FEAR on the hardest level and I never use invis or time slow. FEAR didn't get challenging until the very end on the speeding TRAM and then in the very final scene. I am playing GOW on the medium setting and it is much tougher, although, no question that trying to master the controls has been a part of it since it is clearly made for a console. Killing the Lambets got a lot easier last night when I started diving around the room, like somebody mentioned to do earlier.

Did you play all three on the PC?
 
You can't play Crysis on the hardest difficulty and call yourself casual, I'm sorry. And yes I played GOW on the PC, although I didn't get as far as you because the game was god awful boring as hell. I was meaning to play it coop with someone... anyone, but none of my friends wanted to get it. Supposedly it's more bearable in coop.
 
Originally posted by: AstroManLuca
Originally posted by: Psynaut
One of my biggest complaints about the newer shooters is that they are too easy even on the hardest settings. In FEAR 2 I never used the time slow feature, in Crysis I never use the cloak feature. I can't figure out why they don't include an option that makes the game a little challenging. And I am just a casual player, I've got to think a lot of other people, with a lot more skillz than me, feel the same way.

So in between new releases I go back and play some classics that I missed, since I didn't game for a stretch of years, and last week I installed Gears of War for the PC and have played about half-way through.

What a pleasant surprise, there are three difficulty settings and I am playing on the middle setting and getting my ass handed to me in certain encounters, and rather than avoiding using 'crutch' features, I am looking for any advantage I can get. I can't even imagine trying to beat this game on the hardest setting. It's kinda nice.
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Try playing Call of Duty 4 on the hardest setting sometime.
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i'm thinking about playing cod 4 on a harder setting but normal was hard enough!
 
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