Originally posted by: SlitheryDee
That's one of the more hilarious aspect of Judaism IMO. During the sabbath, they can't push buttons or do many other technology or work related things, so they have this industry for "loophole appliances" with buttons that push themselves, etc. Doesn't anyone just stop and think about how God is supposedly a conscious, thinking entity who probably doesn't appreciate any attempt to "get around" his laws? Isn't treating Him like no more than a set of pointless, but unbreakable rules somehow wrong?
Originally posted by: AstroManLuca
Originally posted by: SlitheryDee I say the same thing - why should one follow the letter of the law if they're not going to follow the spirit? Why should people convert to Christianity just to cover their bases (Pascal's Wager) if they don't really believe in it? Why are there deathbed conversions? Do people really think God will be fooled by such things?
Originally posted by: Crono
Originally posted by: SlitheryDee
That's one of the more hilarious aspect of Judaism IMO. During the sabbath, they can't push buttons or do many other technology or work related things, so they have this industry for "loophole appliances" with buttons that push themselves, etc. Doesn't anyone just stop and think about how God is supposedly a conscious, thinking entity who probably doesn't appreciate any attempt to "get around" his laws? Isn't treating Him like no more than a set of pointless, but unbreakable rules somehow wrong?
Read the Gospels. Jesus addresses the hypocrisy of the Jews (not all, but the Pharisees and scribes particularly) in that they created hundreds of laws for themselves not taken from the Torah, but then failed to live up to the standards they set for themselves. They focused on the letter of the Law, but forgot and dishonored the One who made the Law.
In those days, if you're donkey fell into a ditch on the Sabbath, you had to leave it there. YOu were not allowed to do anything on the Sabbath day, even if it was good.
They got all angry at Jesus for healing people on the Sabbath.
Originally posted by: Crono
Originally posted by: SlitheryDee
That's one of the more hilarious aspect of Judaism IMO. During the sabbath, they can't push buttons or do many other technology or work related things, so they have this industry for "loophole appliances" with buttons that push themselves, etc. Doesn't anyone just stop and think about how God is supposedly a conscious, thinking entity who probably doesn't appreciate any attempt to "get around" his laws? Isn't treating Him like no more than a set of pointless, but unbreakable rules somehow wrong?
Read the Gospels. Jesus addresses the hypocrisy of the Jews (not all, but the Pharisees and scribes particularly) in that they created hundreds of laws for themselves not taken from the Torah, but then failed to live up to the standards they set for themselves. They focused on the letter of the Law, but forgot and dishonored the One who made the Law. They forgot the greatest commandment: to love the LORD your God with all your heart and mind.
In those days, if you're donkey fell into a ditch on the Sabbath, you had to leave it there. You were not allowed to do anything on the Sabbath day, even if it was good.
They got all angry at Jesus for healing people on the Sabbath.
Originally posted by: Goosemaster
Originally posted by: Crono
Originally posted by: SlitheryDee
That's one of the more hilarious aspect of Judaism IMO. During the sabbath, they can't push buttons or do many other technology or work related things, so they have this industry for "loophole appliances" with buttons that push themselves, etc. Doesn't anyone just stop and think about how God is supposedly a conscious, thinking entity who probably doesn't appreciate any attempt to "get around" his laws? Isn't treating Him like no more than a set of pointless, but unbreakable rules somehow wrong?
Read the Gospels. Jesus addresses the hypocrisy of the Jews (not all, but the Pharisees and scribes particularly) in that they created hundreds of laws for themselves not taken from the Torah, but then failed to live up to the standards they set for themselves. They focused on the letter of the Law, but forgot and dishonored the One who made the Law. They forgot the greatest commandment: to love the LORD your God with all your heart and mind.
In those days, if you're donkey fell into a ditch on the Sabbath, you had to leave it there. You were not allowed to do anything on the Sabbath day, even if it was good.
They got all angry at Jesus for healing people on the Sabbath.
I wonder if pediatric surgeons go through withdrawl during these times. Letting a little kid die when I know I can save them would be tough...
<---NOT well versed on this topic.
He's probably laughing hysterically at the herd of little severely obsessive-compulsive primates he's created (regardless of whatever religion you care to attribute this to.)Originally posted by: SlitheryDee
That's one of the more hilarious aspect of Judaism IMO. During the sabbath, they can't push buttons or do many other technology or work related things, so they have this industry for "loophole appliances" with buttons that push themselves, etc. Doesn't anyone just stop and think about how God is supposedly a conscious, thinking entity who probably doesn't appreciate any attempt to "get around" his laws? Isn't treating Him like no more than a set of pointless, but unbreakable rules somehow wrong?
Moses had brought his Blackberry when he was going to receive the Commandments. But it was the Sabbath, so he wasn't allowed to use it, and he only had enough stone to get 10 of them written down.Originally posted by: sao123
the 13th commandment:
Observe the sabbath and keep it holy: Thy refridgerator lamp shall not light during the sabbath, nor shall it beepeth.
Originally posted by: Jeff7
He's probably laughing hysterically at the herd of little severely obsessive-compulsive primates he's created (regardless of whatever religion you care to attribute this to.)Originally posted by: SlitheryDee
That's one of the more hilarious aspect of Judaism IMO. During the sabbath, they can't push buttons or do many other technology or work related things, so they have this industry for "loophole appliances" with buttons that push themselves, etc. Doesn't anyone just stop and think about how God is supposedly a conscious, thinking entity who probably doesn't appreciate any attempt to "get around" his laws? Isn't treating Him like no more than a set of pointless, but unbreakable rules somehow wrong?
Ok, so we have to do things in 7-day cycles, but we can't do anything on the 7th day. Certain meat is unclean. Shave hair only on certain parts of the head. Wear specific hats, but not in certain places. God wants hats worn, but not in church. Wash your hands 5x on every third Thursday, but not on every second Wednesday, only if the month's name begins with M. Hands must be properly aligned for praying to work.
Aaaaand so on.
Moses had brought his Blackberry when he was going to receive the Commandments. But it was the Sabbath, so he wasn't allowed to use it, and he only had enough stone to get 10 of them written down.Originally posted by: sao123
the 13th commandment:
Observe the sabbath and keep it holy: Thy refridgerator lamp shall not light during the sabbath, nor shall it beepeth.
Unfortunately, the 47th Commandment was, "Thou shalt not use softwood for dwellings, for it is unclean."
That's right, if your house was made with standard 2x4's, you're screwed. Ignorance of the law is no excuse.![]()
Originally posted by: jjsole
I used to live in a very Orthodox Jewish area in Chicago and I can honestly say they were the most unfriendly group of people I've ever come across in my life.
Originally posted by: Homerboy
Originally posted by: Jeff7
He's probably laughing hysterically at the herd of little severely obsessive-compulsive primates he's created (regardless of whatever religion you care to attribute this to.)Originally posted by: SlitheryDee
That's one of the more hilarious aspect of Judaism IMO. During the sabbath, they can't push buttons or do many other technology or work related things, so they have this industry for "loophole appliances" with buttons that push themselves, etc. Doesn't anyone just stop and think about how God is supposedly a conscious, thinking entity who probably doesn't appreciate any attempt to "get around" his laws? Isn't treating Him like no more than a set of pointless, but unbreakable rules somehow wrong?
Ok, so we have to do things in 7-day cycles, but we can't do anything on the 7th day. Certain meat is unclean. Shave hair only on certain parts of the head. Wear specific hats, but not in certain places. God wants hats worn, but not in church. Wash your hands 5x on every third Thursday, but not on every second Wednesday, only if the month's name begins with M. Hands must be properly aligned for praying to work.
Aaaaand so on.
Moses had brought his Blackberry when he was going to receive the Commandments. But it was the Sabbath, so he wasn't allowed to use it, and he only had enough stone to get 10 of them written down.Originally posted by: sao123
the 13th commandment:
Observe the sabbath and keep it holy: Thy refridgerator lamp shall not light during the sabbath, nor shall it beepeth.
Unfortunately, the 47th Commandment was, "Thou shalt not use softwood for dwellings, for it is unclean."
That's right, if your house was made with standard 2x4's, you're screwed. Ignorance of the law is no excuse.![]()
You had me until that. The God wrote the Ten Commandments!!! DUH!!!
Originally posted by: SunnyD
Originally posted by: mugs
Originally posted by: SunnyD
So anything close to spoiling will definitely spoil on the sabbath. SWEET.
The refrigerator doesn't shut off, it just doesn't do anything based on opening or closing the door, and it doesn't dispense water and ice.
You sure?
the door of the refrigerator or freezer can be opened or closed at any time without concern of directly turning on or off any lights, digital readouts, solenoids, fans, valves, compressor, icons, tones or alarms.
While in the Sabbath mode GE Monogram refrigerators will meet the observant Jewish consumer's restrictions for observing the Sabbath and other holidays in the following ways:
? The defrost cycle is not controlled by door openings. The defrost cycle runs on fixed clock time.
? Ice and water cannot be retrieved from the dispenser
? The main temperature control and Quick Chill?/ Express Chill? displays will not illuminate.
? Quick Chill and temperature settings will remain at temperatures set before Sabbath Mode
? Touchpad sensors will not tone
? Door alarms will not operate
? The icemaker is automatically disabled (bottom freezer models only; icemakers in side-by-side models will continue to operate unless the icemaker power switch is set to off)
? Interior lights and dispenser lights will not operate
? Current fan state will continue as current regardless of door opening
Originally posted by: Pepsei
just checked wikipedia, they even have "shabbat elevator" it stops on every floor during sabbath, so you don't have to push any buttons.
Originally posted by: Pepsei
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the door of the refrigerator or freezer can be opened or closed at any time without concern of directly turning on or off any lights, digital readouts, solenoids, fans, valves, compressor, icons, tones or alarms.
I didn't realize they make kosher appliances.
Originally posted by: Pepsei
just checked wikipedia, they even have "shabbat elevator" it stops on every floor during sabbath, so you don't have to push any buttons.
Originally posted by: chuckywang
Originally posted by: Pepsei
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the door of the refrigerator or freezer can be opened or closed at any time without concern of directly turning on or off any lights, digital readouts, solenoids, fans, valves, compressor, icons, tones or alarms.
I didn't realize they make kosher appliances.
kosher = jewish dietary laws
What about this appliance is kosher?
Kosher appliances to make the kosher kitchen user friendly.
