CitizenKain
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Originally posted by: Atreus21
I'll bite. These are my reasons for which I disagree with gay marriage. I'll argue as if I represent society.
Question: What is the real purpose of marriage? If we don't define this, then we can't argue for whom it should be granted and whom it should not.
My opinion, which is backed up in the field, is that marriage's highest purpose is to provide a stable environment for the raising of children, which is good for society. Studies have proven that children born out of wedlock, or at least without one of the parents, are born behind the 8 ball. Surely, marriage is about partnership, but I believe this to be secondary to child-bearing, especially as far as a society is concerned. I bet Darwin would agree with me on that.
From this I conclude that a gay relationship, which is naturally unable to produce children (although they may adopt), is useless to society. Now, in the case of adopted children....
Question #2: What is the real purpose of sex?
My opinion, which is again backed up in the real world, is that from a strictly societal viewpoint, sex is good for only one thing: propogation of the species and expansion of society, in that sex produces offspring. If this is true, then it's very easy to classify not just gay marriage, but gay behavior itself as useless, and hence a detrimental attitude to be passed onto adopted children. Now, no one can prove that gay parents will produce a gay child, but it seems reasonable to assume that the parents lifestyle will certainly project itself onto the child in some manifestation.
You may dismiss this and ask the same question I like to ask to abortionists: "On what basis do you deny a right to some and not to others?" The answer to me is plain. For the reasons made above, marriage is not a right. It is something that society creates in its own interest.
1. So they are useless to society? Are infertile people useless to society? Handicapped? When classifying people as useless, you tread on scary ground. Society isn't about having childern, its about the people in it. Gay people can adopt, they can have children, they can raise children, they can do everything straight parents can do, and studies have proven that children raised by gay parents benefit from having two parents just as much as straight. Not really sure what Darwin has to do with it.
2. In the strictest biological sense, sex is about propagation of the species. In the sense that normal humans use it, its about many other things, mainly fun. What real detrimental attitude is passed onto children of gay couples? Things like "People may be different, but they are still people.", or "Discrimination is bad, don't do it." You also believe that being gay is something you catch, which is cute.
Here is an important thing many people like yourself are having a problem with understanding. They want to get married in the eyes of the government, not your church. The word marriage has been co-opted from being strictly religious into a word for the joining of two people together. When they want to be married, they want the benefits it provides, things like the ability to visit a spouse in the hospital, the ability to handle legal affairs like traditionally married couples do, and the various other benefits that provides. What they don't want is your definition of marriage. I know, everyone uses "your" word for it, but that's how it goes. That is what society chose.