Dr. Detroit
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I'm not gay and didn't vote but how anyone can find love in another mans hairy assh0le is beyond me!:disgust:
I'm pretty certain there aren't 80 gay people in ATOT.
unless there's a ton in the closet or something.
I can't understand how anyone can eat canned peas. It doesn't affect me if they do though, and I don't see how it could/should affect my judgement of them. I've got to wonder if people so adamantly against homosexuality are as such because they're hiding something...
Anyway, I think I'd take the pill were I gay (though I didn't vote). There are a lot of parallels to my own situation; being an atheist in a predominantly religious world, and I'd probably take a pill that would make me believe.
GeekDrew
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I know that a lot of people that are so 'against' homosexuality are actually homosexuals themselves. Note that I'm not saying the poster in question is, though.
But what does it matter if it was *meant* to go in there? For argument's sake, say it were meant to go in a man's ass. Would that make you any more attracted to it?
On the other hand, it's clear that most of our body parts are perfectly able to serve multiple roles. For example our mouths play roles in expressing emotion, eating, making speech, expressing affection (kissing), etc. There's no 'rule' which says you can't or shouldn't shove your **** in any particular human orifice.
GeekDrew
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Originally posted by: aidanjm
I have to agree, vaginas just seem so... unappealing.
(apologies to any ladies present)
No... unappealing is the undercooked dinner you're served at a fast food restaurant.
I find them disgusting, and I'm not sure that's a strong enough word.
But that's just my perspective.
IAteYourMother
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Originally posted by: GeekDrew
Originally posted by: aidanjm
I have to agree, vaginas just seem so... unappealing.
(apologies to any ladies present)
No... unappealing is the undercooked dinner you're served at a fast food restaurant.
I find them disgusting, and I'm not sure that's a strong enough word.
But that's just my perspective.
I used to think that way, but it occurred to me it was a kind of sexist attitude.. and I'm sure women don't like hearing their vaginas being described as disgusting
mobobuff
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:thumbsup: No surprise that most of the common sense in this thread is coming from gay people.
If there was a button I could press that would instantly remove all social angst and misunderstanding assosciated with homosexuality, I'd probably press the hell out of it. People would still be able to form opinions on their own - but society itself would be inherently neutral.
I'm heterosexual, but I'm not quite so ignorant as to let my lifestyle interfere with common sense. Our brains are very robust instruments. They account entirely for the perception of a "self". They also have settings, and some of these settings are set at birth inside the womb, some are set right at the moment of conception. Of course many settings are set during your lifetime, but homosexuality and heterosexuality is not one of them. I am positive this is a setting that is programmed at birth, and it may just be latent until it is expressed by the person when they are old enough to identify themselves as a sexual being (whenever that happens is up to them). You can think of these settings much like jumpers (DIP switches) on a motherboard. The brain, however, has hundreds of billions of these switches. Please don't lose me here... I am not trying to say the brain is as simple as DIP switches, it's so much more complicated than that. Societal influence comes into play on these switches like a 3 year old jabbing at keys on a keyboard.
As another poster already pointed out... in the early ages, women were not considered for their beauty. In fact, a woman was only considered socially acceptable if she was plump and shapeless. Men, on the other hand, were often sculptured (with words or otherwise) as being powerful, attractive figures. Women considered socially attractive today, would have been horribly mishapen and unappealing in early ages - too skinny, feeble, and if you have a tan? Forget about it.
I can certainly look at another man and think, "wow, he's hot", but would I have sex with him? Certainly not, it just wouldn't be sexually appealing to me. I can, however, recognize the attractiveness in a man. Would I take a pill that would make me homosexual? No, because I am already in a relationship with a woman I love, and I fear my chances with gay men would be even less than my chances with women. It also severely limits the size of the buffet to choose from
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GeekDrew
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Originally posted by: aidanjm
Originally posted by: GeekDrew
Originally posted by: aidanjm
I have to agree, vaginas just seem so... unappealing.
(apologies to any ladies present)
No... unappealing is the undercooked dinner you're served at a fast food restaurant.
I find them disgusting, and I'm not sure that's a strong enough word.
But that's just my perspective.
I used to think that way, but it occurred to me it was a kind of sexist attitude.. and I'm sure women don't like hearing their vaginas being described as disgusting
Nah... I think that sexist would be if you were to say that all women were ugly... or all women are incompetent, etc... something very broad and about women in general. Having an opinion about their sexual organs doesn't make me sexist... or at least I don't think so. But I could be wrong. lol
I was on your side til this post.
Angels are men and women. If you read the bible, you would know this. Shouldn't have brought religion into this discussion though as it kills the validity of the responses.
Originally posted by: GeekDrew
Originally posted by: aidanjm
Originally posted by: GeekDrew
Originally posted by: aidanjm
I have to agree, vaginas just seem so... unappealing.
(apologies to any ladies present)
No... unappealing is the undercooked dinner you're served at a fast food restaurant.
I find them disgusting, and I'm not sure that's a strong enough word.
But that's just my perspective.
I used to think that way, but it occurred to me it was a kind of sexist attitude.. and I'm sure women don't like hearing their vaginas being described as disgusting
Nah... I think that sexist would be if you were to say that all women were ugly... or all women are incompetent, etc... something very broad and about women in general. Having an opinion about their sexual organs doesn't make me sexist... or at least I don't think so. But I could be wrong. lol
fair enough, lol
And to answer the original poster - no, I don't think I would. To take a pill to change me would somehow mean that being gay is something that needs to be fixed or cured, and thats not the way I see it. In my eyes, its really no different from going back 200 years and asking black people if they could take a pill to turn white, would they do it? Yes, being straight might make some aspects of life a bit easier. But I suppose i'm this way for a reason, so I might as well see it through.
The main 'sad' thing about being gay for me is I probably will never have children. Apart from that, I don't feel much regret at not turning out heterosexual.
NINaudio
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Originally posted by: mobobuff
:thumbsup: No surprise that most of the common sense in this thread is coming from gay people.
If there was a button I could press that would instantly remove all social angst and misunderstanding assosciated with homosexuality, I'd probably press the hell out of it. People would still be able to form opinions on their own - but society itself would be inherently neutral.
I'm heterosexual, but I'm not quite so ignorant as to let my lifestyle interfere with common sense. Our brains are very robust instruments. They account entirely for the perception of a "self". They also have settings, and some of these settings are set at birth inside the womb, some are set right at the moment of conception. Of course many settings are set during your lifetime, but homosexuality and heterosexuality is not one of them. I am positive this is a setting that is programmed at birth, and it may just be latent until it is expressed by the person when they are old enough to identify themselves as a sexual being (whenever that happens is up to them). You can think of these settings much like jumpers (DIP switches) on a motherboard. The brain, however, has hundreds of billions of these switches. Please don't lose me here... I am not trying to say the brain is as simple as DIP switches, it's so much more complicated than that. Societal influence comes into play on these switches like a 3 year old jabbing at keys on a keyboard.
As another poster already pointed out... in the early ages, women were not considered for their beauty. In fact, a woman was only considered socially acceptable if she was plump and shapeless. Men, on the other hand, were often sculptured (with words or otherwise) as being powerful, attractive figures. Women considered socially attractive today, would have been horribly mishapen and unappealing in early ages - too skinny, feeble, and if you have a tan? Forget about it.
I can certainly look at another man and think, "wow, he's hot", but would I have sex with him? Certainly not, it just wouldn't be sexually appealing to me. I can, however, recognize the attractiveness in a man. Would I take a pill that would make me homosexual? No, because I am already in a relationship with a woman I love, and I fear my chances with gay men would be even less than my chances with women. It also severely limits the size of the buffet to choose from
QFT
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