Gay Marriage - Yes or No?

[Pepsei]

Originally posted by: HardWarrior

Originally posted by: UCSDHappyAsian
i said it to my friends, and i mma say it again~~
If we allow gay marriage, I believe later on in the future some people would ask for man-dog marriage. they would probably claim that they love each other and want to live with each other.

A man and a dog wouldn't be a consenual relationship. Try something a bit more rational next time to justify your homophobia.

How come people always brings animal into this arguement? I'm against the ban, but I wouldn't stop a man from his true love if he likes sheep.

 

[Orsorum]

Originally posted by: Pepsei

Originally posted by: HardWarrior

Originally posted by: UCSDHappyAsian
i said it to my friends, and i mma say it again~~
If we allow gay marriage, I believe later on in the future some people would ask for man-dog marriage. they would probably claim that they love each other and want to live with each other.

A man and a dog wouldn't be a consenual relationship. Try something a bit more rational next time to justify your homophobia.

How come people always brings animal into this arguement? I'm against the ban, but I wouldn't stop a man from his true love if he likes sheep.

Because it's a supposed analog to gay marriage, which are apparently equal on the "atrocious human behavior" scale.

 

[BugsBunny1078]

It's a matter of this being a country 'Under God' which it is whether you atheists and agnostics like it or not.
We're not willing to risk angering God and God taking away his blessings from this country to satisfy your perverted desires.
You may be perectly willing to suffer the same fate as Sodom and Gomorrah but we're not going to let you drag us down with you.
Having the government allow same sex marriages would be putting a blessing on something that is obviously wrong. There is a huge difference between allowing same sex marriages and interracial marriages. That being the Bible clearly opposes racism and clearly opposes homosexuality. Trying to compare the two cannot succeed in this country. Don't take that to mean that christians hate homosexuals either. We love you but we're not going to put a blessing on a sin.

 

[Red Dawn]

Originally posted by: BugsBunny1078
It's a matter of this being a country 'Under God' which it is whether you atheists and agnostics like it or not.
We're not willing to risk angering God and God taking away his blessings from this country to satisfy your perverted desires.
You may be perectly willing to suffer the same fate as Sodom and Gomorrah but we're not going to let you drag us down with you.
Having the government allow same sex marriages would be putting a blessing on something that is obviously wrong. There is a huge difference between allowing same sex marriages and interracial marriages. That being the Bible clearly opposes racism and clearly opposes homosexuality. Trying to compare the two cannot succeed in this country. Don't take that to mean that christians hate homosexuals either. We love you but we're not going to put a blessing on a sin.

Fscking Fund A Mental Case Christians, always worried about what others do.

 

[Insane3D]

It's a matter of this being a country 'Under God' which it is whether you atheists and agnostics like it or not.

Translation : I've got god on my side, so I know better than you.

 

[Genesys]

add another, where we give them the same rights and protections as marriage, but call it something else.

that one gets my vote.

 

[JackStorm]

Originally posted by: Insane3D

It's a matter of this being a country 'Under God' which it is whether you atheists and agnostics like it or not.

Translation : I've got god on my side, so I know better than you.

Yeah...isn't it wonderful how some people try to pawn off their opinions and beliefs like some kinda absolute truth? If someone wants to belive something, fine, let them. But the moment they try to force feed you their beliefs or values as absolute truth, it leaves a bad after taste. I for one don't care if his invisible man in the sky says this or that is right or wrong. I, as a person, choose to exercise my free will and choose to not agree with him or his invisible man in the sky.

 

[Romans828]

Originally posted by: conjur

Originally posted by: Romans828
I have a few more questions and did not want to be accussed of "bumping" my own thread about gay marriage...

1. Are the extended families or gay couples expected to get along?

Why wouldn't they? You lack faith in your fellow man's open-mindedness.

2. If your brother or sister married gay, would thier spouse be your brother in law or sister in law?

Trolling with flamebait. Utterly ridiculous question not worthy of a reasoned response.

3. If a gay couple adopts whose parents would be the paternal grandparents?

None...same as in a heterosexual adoption case. But, again, you're just flamebaiting here.

4. If a gay couple adopts then later one [sic] after the child reaches adult age would he/she having sex with a parent be incest?

Ask Woody Allen.

5. Can a gay marriage end in divorce if the spouse goes straight?

Can a heterosexual marriage end in divorce if the spouse realizes he/she is gay and has been living a lie? (It's happened MANY times.)

6. Should gay wedding aniverseries be celebrated in a traditional sence [sic]? You know paper, silver gold, sort of thing?

Why not?

7. How do you address a gay married couple you know like letters and stuff... Mr& Mr , Mrs and Mrs?

More flamebaiting

8. Are conjugal visits OK in the event one spouse ends up doing time?

Why not?

9. Who gives away who at the wedding? The father of the groom or the father of the other groom.

More flamebaiting

10. I still want to know whose father is expected to pay for the wedding. If my son goes for gay marriage I sure as hell am insisting that he is the not the"bride"

More flamebaiting

Thanks for any clarification you can provide.......

You're welcome!


BTW, I highly recommend you seek professional help to help you work through your very apparent homophobia.

Shame Shame you called most of my perfectly legitimate questions flame baiting......

Looks like we have stumbled into a sore spot no?

I still say knowing whose father is expected to pay for the wedding is a very SERIOUS. Ill say once more if my son goes for gay marriage I sure as hell am insisting that he is the not the"bride". Lets party of the other sob's dime its the "democratic" way.

 

[BugsBunny1078]

Originally posted by: JackStorm

Originally posted by: Insane3D

It's a matter of this being a country 'Under God' which it is whether you atheists and agnostics like it or not.

Translation : I've got god on my side, so I know better than you.

Yeah...isn't it wonderful how some people try to pawn off their opinions and beliefs like some kinda absolute truth? If someone wants to belive something, fine, let them. But the moment they try to force feed you their beliefs or values as absolute truth, it leaves a bad after taste. I for one don't care if his invisible man in the sky says this or that is right or wrong. I, as a person, choose to exercise my free will and choose to not agree with him or his invisible man in the sky.

Just like every other law is someone elses belief being force fed to others. You may for instance feel that you have a right to kill someone for stepping on your toes in a bar. Lot's of people feel exactly that way. The majority however do not, so we don't allow it. Majority rules.

 

[Orsorum]

Originally posted by: Romans828

Shame Shame you called most of my perfectly legitimate questions flame baiting......

Looks like we have stumbled into a sore spot no?

I still say knowing whose father is expected to pay for the wedding is a very SERIOUS. Ill say once more if my son goes for gay marriage I sure as hell am insisting that he is the not the"bride". Lets party of the other sob's dime its the "democratic" way.

That's because most of your questions WERE flamebait. They're incidental to the nature of a relationship. If my sister were gay, would it matter to me if she became my sister in law instead of me getting a brother in law? Of course not. That would have absolutely no effect on my life or my decision to support her.

If my son was gay and decided to get married, I would pay halvsies. Just pony up the goddamned money and be a good father for once.

 

[Orsorum]

Originally posted by: BugsBunny1078

Just like every other law is someone elses belief being force fed to others. You may for instance feel that you have a right to kill someone for stepping on your toes in a bar. Lot's of people feel exactly that way. The majority however do not, so we don't allow it. Majority rules.

That's one of the worst analogies I've ever heard. People have the right to life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness; if your actions deprive a person of that right, you've committed a crime against society. That isn't a "majority rules" issue.

 

[Romans828]

Originally posted by: Orsorum

Originally posted by: BugsBunny1078

Just like every other law is someone elses belief being force fed to others. You may for instance feel that you have a right to kill someone for stepping on your toes in a bar. Lot's of people feel exactly that way. The majority however do not, so we don't allow it. Majority rules.

That's one of the worst analogies I've ever heard. People have the right to life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness; if your actions deprive a person of that right, you've committed a crime against society. That isn't a "majority rules" issue.

I agree abortion is a crime against society

PS: I guess your happy they "locked" my "flame-bait" thread. It never ceases to amaze me how liberal forums get so threatened and intollerant of opposing view points...
Its damn funny stuff......

 

[BugsBunny1078]

That's one of the worst analogies I've ever heard. People have the right to life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness; if your actions deprive a person of that right, you've committed a crime against society. That isn't a "majority rules" issue.

Yes I knew someone would say that, but the analogy could be replaced with any other law.
Replace it with 'possessing child pornography'. Or any other obscenity laws.
Watching a movie in your own home doesn't harm anyone. Still the majority feels it should be outlawed because they view it as immoral, so it is outlawed.

 

[Orsorum]

Originally posted by: BugsBunny1078
Yes I knew someone would say that, but the analogy could be replaced with any other law.
Replace it with 'possessing child pornography'. Or any other obscenity laws.
Watching a movie in your own home doesn't harm anyone. Still the majority feels it should be outlawed because they view it as immoral, so it is outlawed.

Child pornography? Child pornography is the result of the molestation and exploitation of a child. That is a crime against society.

Obscenity laws... such as?

 

[Orsorum]

Originally posted by: Romans828

I agree abortion is a crime against society

PS: I guess your happy they "locked" my "flame-bait" thread. It never ceases to amaze me how liberal forums get so threatened and intollerant of opposing view points...
Its damn funny stuff......

I agree as well, third-trimester abortions are a crime against society.

And, yes, they locked it. No need for quotes. It was flamebait, the same as if someone had posted a thread about how all conservatives were idiots or why pedophiles should be revered. This board has some of the best moderation I've seen in my six years on the intarweb.

 

[Romans828]

Originally posted by: Orsorum

Originally posted by: Romans828

Shame Shame you called most of my perfectly legitimate questions flame baiting......

Looks like we have stumbled into a sore spot no?

I still say knowing whose father is expected to pay for the wedding is a very SERIOUS. Ill say once more if my son goes for gay marriage I sure as hell am insisting that he is the not the"bride". Lets party of the other sob's dime its the "democratic" way.

That's because most of your questions WERE flamebait. They're incidental to the nature of a relationship. If my sister were gay, would it matter to me if she became my sister in law instead of me getting a brother in law? Of course not. That would have absolutely no effect on my life or my decision to support her.

If my son was gay and decided to get married, I would pay halvsies. Just pony up the goddamned money and be a good father for once.

That's because most of your questions WERE flamebait.

Man are people easily bent out of shape around here. cant even see a little HUMOR aimed at begining some dialoge around what is of course a serious issue. My thread was even locked for petes sake.

Why is it when liberals start to lose any debate they quit or change the rules?

Just pony up the goddamned money and be a good father for once.[/quote]

I assume thats HUMOR also. otherwise you would be attacking me in a personal way and thats against forum rules., but I digress forum rules only apply in certain directions no?

 

[Orsorum]

Originally posted by: Romans828

That's because most of your questions WERE flamebait.

Man are people easily bent out of shape around here. cant even see a little HUMOR aimed at begining some dialoge around what is of course a serious issue. My thread was even locked for petes sake.

Why is it when liberals start to lose any debate they quit or change the rules?

I assume thats HUMOR also. otherwise you would be attacking me in a personal way and thats against forum rules., but I digress forum rules only apply in certain directions no?

Have fun construing that as a personal attack; there are much, much worse insults slung around here. If you'd read any of my posts around here you'd realize that I'm not a liberal, and I think most of the conservatives and liberals with whom I converse on a regular basis would agree. I have a variety of opinions on different issues, none of which are constructed simply along party lines.

 

[Romans828]

Originally posted by: Orsorum

Originally posted by: Romans828

I agree abortion is a crime against society

PS: I guess your happy they "locked" my "flame-bait" thread. It never ceases to amaze me how liberal forums get so threatened and intollerant of opposing view points...
Its damn funny stuff......

I agree as well, third-trimester abortions are a crime against society.

And, yes, they locked it. No need for quotes. It was flamebait, the same as if someone had posted a thread about how all conservatives were idiots or why pedophiles should be revered. This board has some of the best moderation I've seen in my six years on the intarweb.

This board has some of the best moderation I've seen in my six years on the intarweb.

LOL of course you think its good, its sensorship that shuts down what "you" disagree with. Progressive/liberal tolerance what a joke. You guys crack me up its funny Sh*t it really is.

I havnt seen any anti-conservative or anti-Christian threads ever locked, but then again you would need to close the forum

 

[Romans828]

Originally posted by: Orsorum

Originally posted by: Romans828

That's because most of your questions WERE flamebait.

Man are people easily bent out of shape around here. cant even see a little HUMOR aimed at begining some dialoge around what is of course a serious issue. My thread was even locked for petes sake.

Why is it when liberals start to lose any debate they quit or change the rules?

I assume thats HUMOR also. otherwise you would be attacking me in a personal way and thats against forum rules., but I digress forum rules only apply in certain directions no?

Have fun construing that as a personal attack; there are much, much worse insults slung around here. If you'd read any of my posts around here you'd realize that I'm not a liberal, and I think most of the conservatives and liberals with whom I converse on a regular basis would agree. I have a variety of opinions on different issues, none of which are constructed simply along party lines.

Just pony up the goddamned money and be a good father for once.

Thats not personal?

 

[JackStorm]

Originally posted by: Romans828


PS: I guess your happy they "locked" my "flame-bait" thread.

Actuly, if you read the rules, or have been on this forum long enough, you'd know they lock threads when more than one thread on a similar subject is going on, but yes, it is possible the mods saw the thread as flame-bait as well.

It never ceases to amaze me how liberal forums get so threatened and intollerant of opposing view points...

I could say the same of religion, religion is usually very intolerant of other views. Just look back at history. And don't bother with the "That was just some bad people abusing religion for their own ends". When you know damn well the majority didn't do a damn thing to stop it.

P.S: I haven't had the chance to say this before, but welcome to the forum. Hope you enjoy your stay. You sure made my un-eventful day more interesting by posting 😛

 

[Red Dawn]

Originally posted by: Romans828

Originally posted by: Orsorum

Originally posted by: Romans828

I agree abortion is a crime against society

PS: I guess your happy they "locked" my "flame-bait" thread. It never ceases to amaze me how liberal forums get so threatened and intollerant of opposing view points...
Its damn funny stuff......

I agree as well, third-trimester abortions are a crime against society.

And, yes, they locked it. No need for quotes. It was flamebait, the same as if someone had posted a thread about how all conservatives were idiots or why pedophiles should be revered. This board has some of the best moderation I've seen in my six years on the intarweb.

This board has some of the best moderation I've seen in my six years on the intarweb.

LOL of course you think its good, its sensorship that shuts down what "you" disagree with. Progressive/liberal tolerance what a joke. You guys crack me up its funny Sh*t it really is.

I havnt seen any anti-conservative or anti-Christian threads ever locked, but then again you would need to close the forum

You are sure doing a lot of sniveling for a Noob. Who were you prior to registering as Romans828?

 

[Orsorum]

Originally posted by: Romans828

LOL of course you think its good, its sensorship that shuts down what "you" disagree with. Progressive/liberal tolerance what a joke. You guys crack me up its funny Sh*t it really is.

I havnt seen any anti-conservative or anti-Christian threads ever locked, but then again you would need to close the forum

I just did a cursory glance at the topics that were locked due to content in ATPN in the last thirty days. Of those thirteen were reposts of a particular subject and six were because they were either troll threads or flamebait. I've seen plenty of anti-Christian threads locked in ATOT, and I've seen plenty of anti-liberal threads here in ATPN.

 

[Romans828]

You are sure doing a lot of sniveling for a Noob. Who were you prior to registering as Romans828?

I can't say, I not sure if I was really here before it might have been a bad dream...... 😱

P.S: I haven't had the chance to say this before, but welcome to the forum. Hope you enjoy your stay. You sure made my un-eventful day more interesting by posting

Thank you for the welcome, I will try to make you guys day a little brighter. I will provide you a target, I have no problem with that. 😉

 

[JackStorm]

Originally posted by: Romans828
I havnt seen any anti-conservative or anti-Christian threads ever locked, but then again you would need to close the forum

heh, I guess you weren't here when they banned a guy called BOBDN? A guy who was constantly posting Bush bashing threads. Trust me, threads from both "sides" have been locked in the past.

 

[Orsorum]

Originally posted by: Romans828

Just pony up the goddamned money and be a good father for once.

Thats not personal?

Nope, that was a statement in disgust towards any parent who would use that as an argument against supporting their child in such a life endeavor, though poorly worded. If I knew you in person, Roman, and knew that you had a homosexual child or I made a threat against you as a person, then yes, that would be a personal attack. I invite you to look in other threads in this forum for some examples of personal attacks.