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Originally posted by: Dari
Originally posted by: DealMonkey
Originally posted by: mooncancook
Originally posted by: Dari
Originally posted by: konichiwa
Originally posted by: Dari
with gay shows on NBC. Gay supreme court rulings. Gay bishops. And gay men rebranding themselves as "metrosexuals," Homos are not just coming out of the closet, they're skipping and prancing up a fierce storm.

Does that pose a big problem for you?

not for me, but for children all over America. It'll confuse them. Homosexuality may be an accepted aberration of (human) nature, but it shouldn't be accepted as just sexual phase. Not only will that stunt the population over the long term, but it has catastrophic moral consequences, the least being family values.

I agree. Gay is a practice of sexual immorality, it's unnatural. it's not right that we publicly accept it. it's like publicly accepting adultery. with the way things are going, maybe one day having sexual relationship with animals is in the accepted norm.

Maybe you, Dari and Pat Robertson can go have a prayer-a-thon about it. Meanwhile, the rest of us can mind our own business content in the fact that nothing's being hurt except your fragile religious sensitivities.


Perhaps, one day when you're walking your kids in the park and see two grown men either having aggressive anal sex or performing a 69, you'd have no problem explaining it to them.

wha wha whaaat? That's quite the leap of logic.
 
mooncancook

So why should you care if the next guy commits adultry? Oh yea! The bible says something about stoning adulterers to death dosen't it? Or did that practice get thrown out as culture evolved? Didn't they used to have Limbo? And that faded away too. Meat on Fridays. Need any more examples of change?
 
Originally posted by: DealMonkey
Originally posted by: DariPerhaps, one day when you're walking your kids in the park and see two grown men either having aggressive anal sex or performing a 69, you'd have no problem explaining it to them.

Wow Dari, you certainly have some explicit little fantasies there. Are you sure you're not gay?
Dari is that rare combination of bigotry and atheism. He's a Hitler type, a superman, an ubermench.
 
Originally posted by: Dari
Originally posted by: DealMonkey
Originally posted by: DariPerhaps, one day when you're walking your kids in the park and see two grown men either having aggressive anal sex or performing a 69, you'd have no problem explaining it to them.

Wow Dari, you certainly have some explicit little fantasies there. Are you sure you're not gay?

No, I'm not gay. And it's not a fantasy I've seen sh!t like this in the early morning down in Battery Park City. I damn near threw up. If I had a kid and they saw that, I couldn't explain it to'em.

All you talk about is gay this, gay that in every thread. Just look at this bizarre statement " two grown men either having aggressive anal sex or performing a 69". Sounds like it's a fantasy of yours. Most people would say 2 men groping.

 
Originally posted by: jackschmittusa
Dari

But you would of course have no trouble explaining heterosexual anal sex and oral sex to your kids, right?

you can explain it, by using the right words. But a sausagefest can be confusing for the young mind. Besides, I've never seen heterosexuals do that in a public place.

All you talk about is gay this, gay that in every thread. Just look at this bizarre statement " two grown men either having aggressive anal sex or performing a 69". Sounds like it's a fantasy of yours. Most people would say 2 men groping.

Call it what you want, but I'll call it as I see it. Trust me, it stays in your head.
 
Originally posted by: mooncancook
maybe our culture can accept a gay culture, but a religion based on the Holy Scripture should not accept a gay leader. a religion is not a culture. it's like for the Buddist monks to have a leader that eats meat and practices sex. We cannot modify the Bible to fit the culture. It's like a priest or pastor saying "It's ok to have pre-marital sex coz now it's the 21st century, the Bible is outdated now". That's wrong.

What's your opinion?

That a religion based on the Holy Scripture should not be accepted period, whether it has gays or not.
 
Originally posted by: Dari
Originally posted by: jackschmittusa
Dari

But you would of course have no trouble explaining heterosexual anal sex and oral sex to your kids, right?

you can explain it, by using the right words. But a sausagefest can be confusing for the young mind. Besides, I've never seen heterosexuals do that in a public place.

All you talk about is gay this, gay that in every thread. Just look at this bizarre statement " two grown men either having aggressive anal sex or performing a 69". Sounds like it's a fantasy of yours. Most people would say 2 men groping.

Call it what you want, but I'll call it as I see it. Trust me, it stays in your head.

Hetero sex can be confusing too, what's your point?

If, by chance, your children actually saw a couple guys doing it in the park, well, sorry, but that has nothing to do with Homosexuality. No one is to be having sex in a public place.
 
Originally posted by: sandorski
Originally posted by: Dari
Originally posted by: jackschmittusa
Dari

But you would of course have no trouble explaining heterosexual anal sex and oral sex to your kids, right?

you can explain it, by using the right words. But a sausagefest can be confusing for the young mind. Besides, I've never seen heterosexuals do that in a public place.

All you talk about is gay this, gay that in every thread. Just look at this bizarre statement " two grown men either having aggressive anal sex or performing a 69". Sounds like it's a fantasy of yours. Most people would say 2 men groping.

Call it what you want, but I'll call it as I see it. Trust me, it stays in your head.

Hetero sex can be confusing too, what's your point?

If, by chance, your children actually saw a couple guys doing it in the park, well, sorry, but that has nothing to do with Homosexuality. No one is to be having sex in a public place.


I've never seen people having sex in public. Dari must live in a trailer park.
 
Originally posted by: Dari
Originally posted by: jackschmittusa
Dari

But you would of course have no trouble explaining heterosexual anal sex and oral sex to your kids, right?

you can explain it, by using the right words.

Believe me, homosexuality can be explained in just a few choice words like heterosexuality can. And just because you don't think you could explain homosexuality to your kids doesn't make it wholly immoral.

But a sausagefest can be confusing for the young mind.

Actually, I think you have it all wrong. Without addressing the anomaly you (so far) are using as your sole reason to hate gays (that being your incident in the park), explaining homosexuality can be as easy to explain to a child as heterosexuality. Probably more so than to an adult. Two people love each other. Plain and simple, no?

Besides, I've never seen heterosexuals do that in a public place.

Fabulous logic. If you've seen two gay men having sex in a park, that means all gay men like to have sex in parks, and since you've never seen a straight couple having sex in a park, no straight people have sex in a park. Fallacy at its finest! You sure do love to spread your experiences across the entire spectrum of humanity, huh?
 
Originally posted by: konichiwa
Originally posted by: Dari
Originally posted by: jackschmittusa
Dari

But you would of course have no trouble explaining heterosexual anal sex and oral sex to your kids, right?

you can explain it, by using the right words.

Believe me, homosexuality can be explained in just a few choice words like heterosexuality can. And just because you don't think you could explain homosexuality to your kids doesn't make it wholly immoral.

But a sausagefest can be confusing for the young mind.

Actually, I think you have it all wrong. Without addressing the anomaly you (so far) are using as your sole reason to hate gays (that being your incident in the park), explaining homosexuality can be as easy to explain to a child as heterosexuality. Probably more so than to an adult. Two people love each other. Plain and simple, no?

Besides, I've never seen heterosexuals do that in a public place.

Fabulous logic. If you've seen two gay men having sex in a park, that means all gay men like to have sex in parks, and since you've never seen a straight couple having sex in a park, no straight people have sex in a park. Fallacy at its finest! You sure do love to spread your experiences across the entire spectrum of humanity, huh?

nice generalizations
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you explain it to them just like you explain sex to them. When I taught my daughter about sex,I also taught her about homosexuality.

You are far more likely to have to explain to your kids about obscene things men do to women in porn and movies that are on late at night than explaining two men or women haveing sex. It happened to me when my daughter was switching through the channels late at night and she stopped on a channel, shocked, as two men screwed this woman. It was an awkward moment.
 
Originally posted by: jackschmittusa
mooncancook

So why should you care if the next guy commits adultry? Oh yea! The bible says something about stoning adulterers to death dosen't it? Or did that practice get thrown out as culture evolved? Didn't they used to have Limbo? And that faded away too. Meat on Fridays. Need any more examples of change?

stoning is a practice of culture and governing laws, but the Commandments are not. Laws can change, but the Commandments have never changed. what is sinful is still sinful no matter what time period or where a person is in. Give me a reference where the Commandments about meat on Friday if you can.

anyway, why should I care? well I don't really. but sometimes it's helpful to take note of what's happening around you. take a look at the last 100 years: there was WWI, WWII, and many other small scale wars even to today; the nation of Israel was established for the 3rd time (and the last time according to the Bible), nuclear weapons, '911'......
 
I might point out that commandments DO change a little depending on translation. Note how in Modern translations we have "Thou shalt not kill," but if you go back to the original language you get "Thou SHalt not commit Murder."

VERY different concept. Ever wonder how many people suffered great emotional and psychological pain as a result of actually *believing* this stuff?

Jason
 
Originally posted by: Moonbeam
Originally posted by: JellyBaby
all religions are basically cults
False. A cult is a religious sect having extremist views and one that's seen as false and usually under the domination of a cult leader.
Jelly's right. If your cult gets big and popular enough it becomes a religion.

If your ass gets big enough you can call yourself moonbeam.
 
Originally posted by: DragonMasterAlex
I might point out that commandments DO change a little depending on translation. Note how in Modern translations we have "Thou shalt not kill," but if you go back to the original language you get "Thou SHalt not commit Murder."

VERY different concept. Ever wonder how many people suffered great emotional and psychological pain as a result of actually *believing* this stuff?

Jason

good point Jason. sometimes translations can altered the meaning slightly, and interpretation can alter the meaning even more. i guess that's how some cults use certain passages in the Bible and interpret literally or the way they wanted to mislead people. it's like reading any other books, if you just read a few sentences it might be confusing to you what they mean, but if you read the entire book then you'll have a clearer idea.
 
Originally posted by: mooncancook
Jelly's right. If your cult gets big and popular enough it becomes a religion.

A cult worships Satan, as simple as that.

Catholic is becoming more cultic because they believed in the Pope, and the Pope is 10O% human elected by humans, and some of those humans are electing a gay bishop. They almost are like worshiping the Pope. and all those scandals.... they are becoming more like one of the fallen Church described in Revelation.



1.) If Satan worshiping becomes large enough and manages to gain a certain control in the political arena, then yes it too can become a mainstream religion. All religions were at one time seen as cults in their earlier years. Christianity in it's earlier years was seen as a jewish cult by both Roman pagan worshipers and fellow orthodox jews. Jesus basiclly broke all the rules of the main stream orthodox jewish religon in that part of the world and was seen as a cult leader in his day, believe it or not.

2.) He is not Catholic !
 
Originally posted by: Dari
Originally posted by: DealMonkey
Originally posted by: DariPerhaps, one day when you're walking your kids in the park and see two grown men either having aggressive anal sex or performing a 69, you'd have no problem explaining it to them.

Wow Dari, you certainly have some explicit little fantasies there. Are you sure you're not gay?

No, I'm not gay. And it's not a fantasy I've seen sh!t like this in the early morning down in Battery Park City. I damn near threw up. If I had a kid and they saw that, I couldn't explain it to'em.

Yeah and I've seen guys getting head and having sex in bushes with chicks in the park as well. Both are wrong IMHO ! Both groups should just rent a freaking motel room IMHO ! Yet this example you presented has no relation to the arguement at hand.

 
When there are Gay threads it is assumed that all gays are male.
What we need is a Lesbian republican in the white house.

Bleep
 
Jelly's right. If your cult gets big and popular enough it becomes a religion.
and if your head gets as big as his you can be your own religion 😉

seriously though this church is going to break in half very soon.
 
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