gators and vols

Originally posted by: Slap

Originally posted by: cmdavid
worst officiating call I've EVER seen in college football..
the ref did the one thing that refs are hired not to do, and that's display clear bias... CLEAR BIAS.. unbelievable..
now i'm no florida fan, i'm a miami fan.. and i don't like tenn either.. but fla just got ripped off on that personal foul call.. i could not believe the call that ref made..

i mean, normally you can say, well the ref only saw this, or only saw that.. but there is NO WAY that the ref did not see BOTH of the personal fouls... he should have called two penalties which would have canceled each other out or called none.. but what he did was just plain ridiculous and biased, and he should get fired for it... he (amongst other things) cost florida the game...

It was clearly the right call. The UT player simply shoved the FL player in the face mask. This type thing happens all the time without a penalty. The problem was that the FL player retaliated with a blow to the side of the head. Had he just shoved the UT player back, there would not have been a penalty. You can shove someone without getting a penalty, but anytime you slap someone upside the head you will get called.

Also, as was stated earlier, how can you say that UT would not have still gotten within FG range and hit a game winner.

Your logic is flawed. Stop posting in this thread if you dont know what you're talking about.

 

[Slap]

Originally posted by: Phocas

Originally posted by: Slap

Originally posted by: cmdavid
worst officiating call I've EVER seen in college football..
the ref did the one thing that refs are hired not to do, and that's display clear bias... CLEAR BIAS.. unbelievable..
now i'm no florida fan, i'm a miami fan.. and i don't like tenn either.. but fla just got ripped off on that personal foul call.. i could not believe the call that ref made..

i mean, normally you can say, well the ref only saw this, or only saw that.. but there is NO WAY that the ref did not see BOTH of the personal fouls... he should have called two penalties which would have canceled each other out or called none.. but what he did was just plain ridiculous and biased, and he should get fired for it... he (amongst other things) cost florida the game...

It was clearly the right call. The UT player simply shoved the FL player in the face mask. This type thing happens all the time without a penalty. The problem was that the FL player retaliated with a blow to the side of the head. Had he just shoved the UT player back, there would not have been a penalty. You can shove someone without getting a penalty, but anytime you slap someone upside the head you will get called.

Also, as was stated earlier, how can you say that UT would not have still gotten within FG range and hit a game winner.

Your logic is flawed. Stop posting in this thread if you dont know what you're talking about.

My logic is not flawed. Although it might not have been the right call, it had to have been the way the ref saw it. I am sure if the ref was to give his explanation that is what it would be. Again, this call was not nearly as bad as the non catch for a TD that beat UT in 2000. I call it even now.

 

Originally posted by: Slap

Originally posted by: Phocas

Originally posted by: Slap

Originally posted by: cmdavid
worst officiating call I've EVER seen in college football..
the ref did the one thing that refs are hired not to do, and that's display clear bias... CLEAR BIAS.. unbelievable..
now i'm no florida fan, i'm a miami fan.. and i don't like tenn either.. but fla just got ripped off on that personal foul call.. i could not believe the call that ref made..

i mean, normally you can say, well the ref only saw this, or only saw that.. but there is NO WAY that the ref did not see BOTH of the personal fouls... he should have called two penalties which would have canceled each other out or called none.. but what he did was just plain ridiculous and biased, and he should get fired for it... he (amongst other things) cost florida the game...

It was clearly the right call. The UT player simply shoved the FL player in the face mask. This type thing happens all the time without a penalty. The problem was that the FL player retaliated with a blow to the side of the head. Had he just shoved the UT player back, there would not have been a penalty. You can shove someone without getting a penalty, but anytime you slap someone upside the head you will get called.

Also, as was stated earlier, how can you say that UT would not have still gotten within FG range and hit a game winner.

Your logic is flawed. Stop posting in this thread if you dont know what you're talking about.

My logic is not flawed. Although it might not have been the right call, it had to have been the way the ref saw it. I am sure if the ref was to give his explanation that is what it would be. Again, this call was not nearly as bad as the non catch for a TD that beat UT in 2000. I call it even now.

Like i said, stop posting.

You said "It was clearly the right call."
and then "Although it might not have been the right call".

Sounds like you're suffering from hunger, grab a snickers.

 

[Slap]

OK, maybe slightly flawed. I still believe in the refs eyes it was the right call because he considered the blow to the head a personal foul and the shove not one.

A snickers does sound good though.

 

[Spudd]

Originally posted by: Slap
OK, maybe slightly flawed. I still believe in the refs eyes it was the right call because he considered the blow to the head a personal foul and the shove not one.

A snickers does sound good though.

Bobby Gaston, the SEC supervisor of officials, said:

"After looking at it, it appears to me it should have been an offset, that both sides were equally responsible and then the clock should have started on the ready for play," Gaston told the newspaper. "You just offset it and put the ball down where it was and wind the clock."

"We left it to start on the snap when we should have started it on the wind," Gaston told The Associated Press on Sunday night. "If there's a penalty, you always go back to the result of the previous play, which was a run."


That ref will probably end up fired for clear bias. I hear Zook is fuming. Hehehe.

 

[cmdavid]

Originally posted by: preslove
The Gators' season is over. Miami is gonna kill em, I don't know about FSU. Fvck the refs, blame Zook.

they're not playing each other this year... unfortunately for miami...

 

[preslove]

Originally posted by: cmdavid

Originally posted by: preslove
The Gators' season is over. Miami is gonna kill em, I don't know about FSU. Fvck the refs, blame Zook.

they're not playing each other this year... unfortunately for miami...

Really? Yay for UF! It's weird, I want to be non-chalante about it, but growing up in Gainesville installs this cynicism antidote.

 

[Robor]

To anyone who saw the penalty in question and thinks it didn't influence the outcome: Put down the glass pipe. The fact is UT *barely* had enough time to make a very long field goal. Take away another 15 seconds and add 15 more yards and you are more than likely looking at a "hail mary" instead of a FG. Even the SEC supervisor of officials admitted they made an error by not winding the clock and both players "could've been" penalized.

And to you, Slap. You say it was "clearly the right call" and act as though it's not a big deal to shove your hand into a players facemask. Well, I'd much rather have my helmet slapped than risk someone poking me in the eye and possibly doing permanent damage. Either way, the UT guy stupidly started it and the UF player stupidly responded. The correct call was a no-call or offsetting and winding the clock at the refs signal rather than the ball placement. What happened was only the UF player got penalized and the refs gave UT another 15 seconds or so. Both of those favored UT and that's why it influenced the outcome.

Oh, and I'm shocked to learn from your profile that you live in Tenn. There's "clearly" no bias there.

 

[Slap]

Originally posted by: Robor
To anyone who saw the penalty in question and thinks it didn't influence the outcome: Put down the glass pipe. The fact is UT *barely* had enough time to make a very long field goal. Take away another 15 seconds and add 15 more yards and you are more than likely looking at a "hail mary" instead of a FG. Even the SEC supervisor of officials admitted they made an error by not winding the clock and both players "could've been" penalized.

And to you, Slap. You say it was "clearly the right call" and act as though it's not a big deal to shove your hand into a players facemask. Well, I'd much rather have my helmet slapped than risk someone poking me in the eye and possibly doing permanent damage. Either way, the UT guy stupidly started it and the UF player stupidly responded. The correct call was a no-call or offsetting and winding the clock at the refs signal rather than the ball placement. What happened was only the UF player got penalized and the refs gave UT another 15 seconds or so. Both of those favored UT and that's why it influenced the outcome.

Oh, and I'm shocked to learn from your profile that you live in Tenn. There's "clearly" no bias there.

So are you saying the catch by Gaffney in 2000 was actually a catch and TD? It was admitted after that game it was a mistake. My point is these things happen. At the time of the cal the ref clearly thinks he is making the right call. Yes I live in TN and yes I am a VOL fan, but my point is this call was no different than the call in 2000 that went against UT. Ref's make mistakes during almost every game. If this call would have happened at the end of the first half instead of the end of the game, you probably wouldn't hear as much about it.

 

[cmdavid]

Originally posted by: Slap

Originally posted by: Robor
To anyone who saw the penalty in question and thinks it didn't influence the outcome: Put down the glass pipe. The fact is UT *barely* had enough time to make a very long field goal. Take away another 15 seconds and add 15 more yards and you are more than likely looking at a "hail mary" instead of a FG. Even the SEC supervisor of officials admitted they made an error by not winding the clock and both players "could've been" penalized.

And to you, Slap. You say it was "clearly the right call" and act as though it's not a big deal to shove your hand into a players facemask. Well, I'd much rather have my helmet slapped than risk someone poking me in the eye and possibly doing permanent damage. Either way, the UT guy stupidly started it and the UF player stupidly responded. The correct call was a no-call or offsetting and winding the clock at the refs signal rather than the ball placement. What happened was only the UF player got penalized and the refs gave UT another 15 seconds or so. Both of those favored UT and that's why it influenced the outcome.

Oh, and I'm shocked to learn from your profile that you live in Tenn. There's "clearly" no bias there.

So are you saying the catch by Gaffney in 2000 was actually a catch and TD? It was admitted after that game it was a mistake. My point is these things happen. At the time of the cal the ref clearly thinks he is making the right call. Yes I live in TN and yes I am a VOL fan, but my point is this call was no different than the call in 2000 that went against UT. Ref's make mistakes during almost every game. If this call would have happened at the end of the first half instead of the end of the game, you probably wouldn't hear as much about it.

that doesn't make the call any less significant... If i was UofF i would be so pissed about that call.. that call can end up costing their school $5mil if they remain unbeaten or only get one more loss for the rest of the season...

 

[Robor]

Originally posted by: Slap
So are you saying the catch by Gaffney in 2000 was actually a catch and TD? It was admitted after that game it was a mistake. My point is these things happen. At the time of the cal the ref clearly thinks he is making the right call. Yes I live in TN and yes I am a VOL fan, but my point is this call was no different than the call in 2000 that went against UT. Ref's make mistakes during almost every game. If this call would have happened at the end of the first half instead of the end of the game, you probably wouldn't hear as much about it.

I said nothing of that game in 2000. To be honest I don't even remember it. And I'm sure in 4 years you will forget that gift the refs gave the Vols last weekend. Either way, a catch isn't as easy to miscall as an obvious no call or offsetting calls. That ref should no longer be doing games, period.

 

[Isshinryu]

My fecking God, is this thread still going. Drop it, gobshites, it happened and it's over.

 

[Robor]

Originally posted by: Isshinryu
My fecking God, is this thread still going. Drop it, gobshites, it happened and it's over.

A bump just for you...

Oh, and UT still sucks. Couldn't even fairly beat the hapless Gators coached by the hapless Zook and staff.