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Gates: Google a "great company" but Microsoft search technology would soon outpace it....

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He hailed search technology firm Google as a "great company"; its approach reminded him of Microsoft 20 years ago.

But he also predicted that Microsoft search technology would soon outpace that of its rival.


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Boo-urns.

That's a negative on the MSN Search...

Now where's the obligatory Ameesh appearance to give us a lesson on why MS is best?
 
If MS can figure out how to not return 50 million search pages as hits instead of relevant pages, I'll go to them instead of Google.

There were others who were tops before Google, and other who will be tops after Google. People seem to forget this.

I am only loyal to Google as long as they fit my needs best. If someone can do it better (and someone can), I'll be there in a flash.
 
He's only doing what any representative of a company would do. You don't think companies go out there and say "yeh, so and so is a great company, we'll never catch them up and we'll settle for 2nd best" do you?

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Originally posted by: Snapster
He's only doing what any representative of a company would do. You don't think companies go out there and say "yeh, so and so is a great company, we'll never catch them up and we'll settle for 2nd best" do you?

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Nah, but it becomes a bit much to stomach when you're dealing with a company like Microsoft that has its paws in everything.
 
I think it would be good to see more then one search engine. It would make it twice as hard for the scum of the internet to come to the top of the results.

I don't think MS can win they will try way to hard to get ads and annoying features.
 
Originally posted by: Ikonomi
Originally posted by: Snapster
He's only doing what any representative of a company would do. You don't think companies go out there and say "yeh, so and so is a great company, we'll never catch them up and we'll settle for 2nd best" do you?

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Nah, but it becomes a bit much to stomach when you're dealing with a company like Microsoft that has its paws in everything.

They're only demonstrating what most sucessfull large companies do by constantly evolving and expanding into other markets. Companies that stay still or don't change die off. Take Manchester United PLC (football/soccer team in the uk), since they've become a PLC, they now do bank loans, and sell all sorts of merchandice that has nothing to do with football.......tomatoe sauce and sausages for example!

Sure like many, I don't like the way they go about business sometimes and think it's unfair and downright stupid, but business is business. They are a successfull company on merit. It's not really worth getting all worked up really, other companies will still be around and still innovate other ideas, it's up to them if they want to sell out or give up.

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M$'s take on spam is an interesting one. What they want to do is have an 'electronic' stamp for every bit of mail. To get this stamp your computer (or user) has to solve a small puzzle/calculation which will take a few seconds. It'd hit companies trying to spam millions of messages pretty well, except those using linux etc to email lol. Also secure sender confirmation to stop relaying. I'd just wish companies would start acting on stopping spam, rather than theorising!
 
Google's gone downhill quite a bit lately so I see this as no big surprise. I rarely even use Google any more unless its their image search feature.
 
Originally posted by: GermyBoy
Originally posted by: Shockwave
And he's right. If MS buys them out.

Way to be jealous.

How so? Hell, it took MS 10 years to get a freakin OS near-right IMO. And lets look at security. They STILL havent figured that out. Now, granted that level of stuff isnt a simple search engine, but my point is MS does things through forcing its use rather then making a out and out better product.

 
Originally posted by: TheToOTaLL
Originally posted by: dwell
He also said:
Spam will be a thing of the past in two years' time, Microsoft boss Bill Gates has promised.
Sounds like BS.

I call shenanigans on Bill Gates!

Actually, I have to say that I'm impressed by the features in Outlook 2k3 for spam. First off, any HTML messages with images in it have the images blocked by default so they don't call home and let the sender know it's a mail account in use. Second, the spam filter's default settings are pretty decent too. I think we'll at least see Microsoft drastically change the way that spammers do what they do.
 
Originally posted by: Rogue
Actually, I have to say that I'm impressed by the features in Outlook 2k3 for spam. First off, any HTML messages with images in it have the images blocked by default so they don't call home and let the sender know it's a mail account in use. Second, the spam filter's default settings are pretty decent too. I think we'll at least see Microsoft drastically change the way that spammers do what they do.
Which means you will still get 100 spam messages a day, just using different tricks to get past the filters.

The only way to stop spam 100% is to re-design SMTP from scratch. We can't trust MS to do it because they are NOT the company to be trusted to design standard protocols.
 
Originally posted by: Shockwave
Originally posted by: GermyBoy
Originally posted by: Shockwave And he's right. If MS buys them out.
Way to be jealous.
How so? Hell, it took MS 10 years to get a freakin OS near-right IMO. And lets look at security. They STILL havent figured that out. Now, granted that level of stuff isnt a simple search engine, but my point is MS does things through forcing its use rather then making a out and out better product.

And they are still the most successful computer software company out there, have the most market share and are able to back up everything they say because they can put the time and resources into it.

I've said it before, and I'll say it again. You drop out of college, start your own company, work on a flimsy intel architecture and make a decent OS that isn't painful command line and then come back and talk to me. Everyone can't be Apple and get the good chips and revolutionize the way we do gui.
 
Originally posted by: GermyBoy
I've said it before, and I'll say it again. You drop out of college, start your own company, work on a flimsy intel architecture and make a decent OS that isn't painful command line and then come back and talk to me. Everyone can't be Apple and get the good chips and revolutionize the way we do gui.
What does good chips have to do with the GUI? Mac has always been light-years ahead of Microsoft when it comes to simple, intelligent UI. Even if their original hardware made it easier to push pixels way back when, their GUIs always made more sense and were more intuitive than anything Microsoft has kludged up, even to this day.
 
Originally posted by: GermyBoy
Originally posted by: Shockwave
Originally posted by: GermyBoy
Originally posted by: Shockwave And he's right. If MS buys them out.
Way to be jealous.
How so? Hell, it took MS 10 years to get a freakin OS near-right IMO. And lets look at security. They STILL havent figured that out. Now, granted that level of stuff isnt a simple search engine, but my point is MS does things through forcing its use rather then making a out and out better product.

And they are still the most successful computer software company out there, have the most market share and are able to back up everything they say because they can put the time and resources into it.

I've said it before, and I'll say it again. You drop out of college, start your own company, work on a flimsy intel architecture and make a decent OS that isn't painful command line and then come back and talk to me. Everyone can't be Apple and get the good chips and revolutionize the way we do gui.


I've said it before and I'll say it again. You make a OS that uses the most common processor out there, has pretty pictures and is easy point and click for the dumbasses out there and you'll sell it. And they did. And the behind the scenes process's sucked. Security was laughable, system uptime is STILL a joke.
 
Why is that a bad thing? Do you not like innovation? Would you rather we still kill animals with sticks and stones rather than use a new invention called the Gun developed by someone you don't like?
 
MS won already, simply because they control the largest portion of the consumer desktops. Most people (read: Normal people) don't even bother changing the MSN home page, and as more and more non-techical people join up, it's just reinforcing MS's dominance. Why change pages to google if MS's new search engine is pretty good already?
 
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