Gas prices getting you down?

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Originally posted by: DeeKnow
will y'all quit bitching out there ? LOL I'm paying the equivalent of $ 3.75 a gallon and so is everyone else out here (here being Switzerland, but most of Europe is about the same)

besides bitching about it (which is a fundamental right, of course) I drive a fuel efficient car thats gets me 48 mpg - so thats helps, but $ 1.50 gas would help a lot more !

If you were paying $1.50/gallon you'd probably have a 23 mpg car like everyone else over here!

 

[Eli]

Originally posted by: Zenmervolt

Originally posted by: Eli
The Tornado should show some improvement, but mostly on a carbureted engine..

Nope. Vortex is only useful in a closed system. The reason that a vortex works in the system of two pop bottles is because the air is being displaced from the lower bottle. Without the vortex effect, the air has to break through the water when the pressure increases to a certain point. With vortex flow, there is a "hole" in the flowing water which allows the displaced air to easily travel in the opposite direction of the water, hence a better flow rate. In an automotive intake, everything is flowing in the same direction and there is no need to accomodate backflow.

Besides, even if it did help (which is doesn't) the vortex flow would be disrupted as soon as the intake air got to the carburator's throttle butterfly. Heck, the turbulance caused by the vortex hitting the throttle butterfly might even cause a detracting effect.

ZV

True, but it would help assuming the intake headers don't provide much swirl and therefor poor fuel vaporization and/or mixing.. but I mean, most new engines are so efficient.. that you're right, it isn't going to help anything. Many antique stationary engines have a "swirl" in the barrel of the carburetor nearest the engine..(so it's after the throttle butterfly and jets due to the problem you state).

Old engines suffer greatly from efficiency problems due to a lack of understanding then... It was probably a realitivly easy way to increase the rate of fuel/air mixing and therefor efficiency..

 

[NTB]

Not particularly - it's cheaper now than it has been in quite a while. $1.37/gallon when I drove past QT yesterday morning.

Nate

 

[TheCorm]

Ah stop whining....we pay £0.77 a litre for 95 Octane and £0.82 a litre for 97/98 Octane.

 

[Zenmervolt]

Originally posted by: Eli

Originally posted by: Zenmervolt

Originally posted by: Eli
The Tornado should show some improvement, but mostly on a carbureted engine..

Nope. Vortex is only useful in a closed system. The reason that a vortex works in the system of two pop bottles is because the air is being displaced from the lower bottle. Without the vortex effect, the air has to break through the water when the pressure increases to a certain point. With vortex flow, there is a "hole" in the flowing water which allows the displaced air to easily travel in the opposite direction of the water, hence a better flow rate. In an automotive intake, everything is flowing in the same direction and there is no need to accomodate backflow.

Besides, even if it did help (which is doesn't) the vortex flow would be disrupted as soon as the intake air got to the carburator's throttle butterfly. Heck, the turbulance caused by the vortex hitting the throttle butterfly might even cause a detracting effect.

ZV

True, but it would help assuming the intake headers don't provide much swirl and therefor poor fuel vaporization and/or mixing.. but I mean, most new engines are so efficient.. that you're right, it isn't going to help anything. Many antique stationary engines have a "swirl" in the barrel of the carburetor nearest the engine..(so it's after the throttle butterfly and jets due to the problem you state).

Old engines suffer greatly from efficiency problems due to a lack of understanding then... It was probably a realitivly easy way to increase the rate of fuel/air mixing and therefor efficiency..

Mixture might be affected, but vaporization/atomisation should only be a function of the carburator jets or of the fuel injector.

ZV

 

[cliftonite]

Originally posted by: ausm

Originally posted by: conjur
<--- filled up tonight at $1.39/gallon.

Where did you steal it from? ;

 

[StageLeft]

Originally posted by: cliftonite

Originally posted by: ausm

Originally posted by: conjur
<--- filled up tonight at $1.39/gallon.

Where did you steal it from? ;

I dub these quote-master

 

[Linflas]

Not really. Prices here have started a downward trend.

 

[guyver01]

Originally posted by: dirtboy
KIRO TV tested this and the tornado.

Results

w00!! nice article...

For fun, we slapped some duct tape on a fourth truck.
So how did our duct tape perform?
"The KIRO fuel-saving device actually finished in first place ? with a six percent increase in fuel economy!" said Beyer.

Duct tape... it's not just for nuclear protection.. but it increases fuel economy... is there anything this wonderful magic tape can't do??

 

[dmcowen674]

Here we go again....

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9-23-2003 U.S. Gas prices jump again, OPEC Agrees to Surprise Oil Output Cut