Gas grillers...do you turn the gas off at the tank?

[spidey07]

never have, and probably never will except for when changing the tank.

 

[davestar]

Originally posted by: DrPizza

Originally posted by: krotchy

Originally posted by: DrPizza
I never turn it off at the tank. Must be that I have a better model of gas grill than everyone else?? Before you reply with "all valves leak", consider that many rural homes use propane for all their heating needs. In that regard, it's no different than natural gas. Do you go to the basement and shut off the valve where natural gas comes into your home after you use your stove? I didn't think so.

Wow that is the most flawed logic I have ever heard.

Explain how it is flawed, please. How are the controls for turning the gas on and off for my gas grill any different than the controls for turning the gas on and off for my kitchen stove. BOTH use propane. It's very awkward to put tanks on my grill, and awkward to attempt to turn the valve off at the tank for the grill. It doesn't seem like the manufacturer really intended to have people turning it off every time.

there's no reason to believe that just because your stove's gas valves are "leak proof" that your grill's valves are of similar quality. many grills' valves leak, so it's recommended to turn off the propane at the source.

 

[dug777]

Goddsakes.

Most bbq regulators are nowhere near as high quality as ones that are used in enclosed, home environments.

Its common sense to turn the cylinder valve on a bbq off after using it if you can.

/thread.

 

[Ramma2]

At the tank. The knobs on the front of the grill are easily accessible and easily manipulated by kids, where as the tank is not.

 

[elektrolokomotive]

burners and tank.

I have a Weber, and found that gas WILL leak out over extended time, reducing the tank supply without closing the tank valve.

But I guess that must be one of the cheap brands DrPizza refers to.

 

[OutHouse]

no i dont. The reason why is because after griling the tank nob is really hot and when its cool enough to turn off im done grubbing on what ever i just cooked and just want to be a slug and take a nap.

 

[DrPizza]

Hmmmm... how many of you have actually followed the instructions that came with your grill? (Yeah, I know, must state to turn off at the tank for extra safety.) Have any of you actually performed a soap test on the fittings and valves of your grill to check for leaks? I didn't think so. Furthermore, it's not that difficult to make gas valves that don't leak. Additionally, consider this - liabilities for a company making those valves in the case of people who store them in their garages, but don't turn off the gas at the tank.

Sure, it's an extra measure for safety. Is it necessary on most grills? No.

 

[Ausm]

I turn off both unless someone I don't like is going to use it in the near future then I leave the burners wide open

Ausm

 

[DrPizza]

Originally posted by: elektrolokomotive
burners and tank.

I have a Weber, and found that gas WILL leak out over extended time, reducing the tank supply without closing the tank valve.

But I guess that must be one of the cheap brands DrPizza refers to.

If it leaks out over extended time, to the point that you notice the difference, then as mentioned above, a simple soap test, which weber tells you to do every time you re-attach a tank, will reveal gas leaks. Weber also says not to use the grill if it's leaking gas. Question: how have you measured that the supply is reduced? Do you keep accurate track of how long the tank was on and at what exact settings? The best you can do is use some gauges. Even with a 1 degree temperature difference, the gauges will read a different internal pressure, thus a gauge wouldn't be reliable to notice any subtle difference.

 

[dug777]

Originally posted by: DrPizza

Originally posted by: elektrolokomotive
burners and tank.

I have a Weber, and found that gas WILL leak out over extended time, reducing the tank supply without closing the tank valve.

But I guess that must be one of the cheap brands DrPizza refers to.

If it leaks out over extended time, to the point that you notice the difference, then as mentioned above, a simple soap test, which weber tells you to do every time you re-attach a tank, will reveal gas leaks. Weber also says not to use the grill if it's leaking gas. Question: how have you measured that the supply is reduced? Do you keep accurate track of how long the tank was on and at what exact settings? The best you can do is use some gauges. Even with a 1 degree temperature difference, the gauges will read a different internal pressure, thus a gauge wouldn't be reliable to notice any subtle difference.

It's a very simple and common sense economy & safety precaution. Why is that so hard for you to accept?

I know that if i leave mine off for a week or so, then i turn the cylinder back on with the burners off, i can hear the whoosh of gas into the first stage...hence the first stage pressure has dropped since i last used it..which equates to a leak...

 

[Pepsi90919]

Originally posted by: DrPizza
I never turn it off at the tank. Must be that I have a better model of gas grill than everyone else?? Before you reply with "all valves leak", consider that many rural homes use propane for all their heating needs. In that regard, it's no different than natural gas. Do you go to the basement and shut off the valve where natural gas comes into your home after you use your stove? I didn't think so.

how can you compare a cheapass little propane tank and grill to a home setup?

 

[GeekDrew]

I always shut off the propane tank valve on the grill. I've seen the plastic hose/tube/thing from the tank to the burner controls fail multiple times, on grills that are used somewhat frequently. I've never seen gas pipes in a house 'wear' out like that. Then again, in a house, AFAIK, plastic is *never* used. Certainly not in any of the houses or barns that we own, at least. We have extensive underground and in-building plumbing for propane, and it's been tested, and is still tested routinely. I don't want to be wasting any gas, nor do I want it to be causing a problem for anyone else that is on the property. I literally trust the propane pipes in the buildings with my life, since I sleep in one of the houses it's connected to... whereas I don't trust a grill's propane connections AT ALL.

That's more than enough reason for me. I generally live in the 'risky' side, but I feel no need to play around with propane when there's no good reason to do so.

 

[elektrolokomotive]

Originally posted by: DrPizza

Originally posted by: elektrolokomotive
burners and tank.

I have a Weber, and found that gas WILL leak out over extended time, reducing the tank supply without closing the tank valve.

But I guess that must be one of the cheap brands DrPizza refers to.

If it leaks out over extended time, to the point that you notice the difference, then as mentioned above, a simple soap test, which weber tells you to do every time you re-attach a tank, will reveal gas leaks. Weber also says not to use the grill if it's leaking gas. Question: how have you measured that the supply is reduced? Do you keep accurate track of how long the tank was on and at what exact settings? The best you can do is use some gauges. Even with a 1 degree temperature difference, the gauges will read a different internal pressure, thus a gauge wouldn't be reliable to notice any subtle difference.

Yes. Every time I connect up a new tank, I run a soap test. As far as measuring a reduced supply... let's see... Leave tank connected, turn on grill, cook dinner, leave tank valve open, burners off. use the grill after a few months extended non-use (tank valve open all this time), no gas to cook dinner. I'd say that was measurable.

 

[Hammerhead]

Originally posted by: Citrix
no i dont. The reason why is because after griling the tank nob is really hot and when its cool enough to turn off im done grubbing on what ever i just cooked and just want to be a slug and take a nap.

What kind of setup do you have? Mine is always cool to the touch. I don't understand how the heat is transferred to your tank knob...

I turn mine off at the tank.

 

[new2AMD]

Originally posted by: Hammerhead

Originally posted by: Citrix
no i dont. The reason why is because after griling the tank nob is really hot and when its cool enough to turn off im done grubbing on what ever i just cooked and just want to be a slug and take a nap.

What kind of setup do you have? Mine is always cool to the touch. I don't understand how the heat is transferred to your tank knob...

I turn mine off at the tank.

Interesting, I thought the same thing. Must be a reason your tank is hot. I cant think its suposed to be though.

 

[OutHouse]

Originally posted by: Hammerhead

Originally posted by: Citrix
no i dont. The reason why is because after griling the tank nob is really hot and when its cool enough to turn off im done grubbing on what ever i just cooked and just want to be a slug and take a nap.

What kind of setup do you have? Mine is always cool to the touch. I don't understand how the heat is transferred to your tank knob...

I turn mine off at the tank.

its a old gas grill that was my dads. its a Sears Kenmore i think he bought it in 1980. the tank is right under the right side of the grill and about 6" of clearance between the top of the tank and the bottom of the grill.

 

[Miramonti]

Always.

 

[Miramonti]

Originally posted by: Citrix

Originally posted by: Hammerhead

Originally posted by: Citrix
no i dont. The reason why is because after griling the tank nob is really hot and when its cool enough to turn off im done grubbing on what ever i just cooked and just want to be a slug and take a nap.

What kind of setup do you have? Mine is always cool to the touch. I don't understand how the heat is transferred to your tank knob...

I turn mine off at the tank.

its a old gas grill that was my dads. its a Sears Kenmore i think he bought it in 1980. the tank is right under the right side of the grill and about 6" of clearance between the top of the tank and the bottom of the grill.

uhmm, sounds like a great reason to shut it off.

 

[bignateyk]

meh.. it all depends on the quality of the grill. The grill we have at school is like 10 years old, and i always turn off the valve. The grill at home is a very nice, new $700 grill, and ive left the valve open for months and still had a full tank of propane.