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Gary Sheffield admits to using steroids from BALCO
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Lifer
Maybe he's still a Brave at heart and wants to tarnish the Yanks world series run? Doubtful. I'm just guessing that he's like any other player and really doesnt know when to keep his mouth shut... either that or he figured it would come out one way or the other and decided to announce it himself.
brunswickite
Diamond Member
ThePresence
Elite Member
How does it tarnish the Yankees WS run? This was in 2002.
SP33Demon
Lifer
I've been saying this all along, and have posted before that Bonds/Shef were buddy buddy during the whole BALCO scandal and worked out together. Also, Shef's attorney said Shef didn't KNOWINGLY take a steroid. How the fck do you not know you are taking an anabolic steroid? You would think they would have a fcking clue when they go up 4 pants sizes and 2 hat sizes. Btw, Giambi also had the same trainer as Bonds/Chef.
Shef saying he doesn't know if Bonds took "the clear" or "the cream" is BS. I'm positive that Bonds told him about it while they were all working out with Anderson, about how it wouldn't show up on MLB drug tests b/c the Olympics couldn't even detect it. That Human Growth Hormone was undetectable as well. If Sheffield admits to not knowing he took steroids, then that means not only did he know, but he probably took more than he's admitting to in my book. Then again, it was always fcking obvious b/c the man's bat speed is insane and he has always been ripped like nobody's business. Genetics? No, because NOBODY looks like that in the game. That's why his trapezious muscle isn't attached to his clavicle anymore, his roided up muscles = today's injuries. But then again, it's not anything we didn't know before.
I have to give Shef credit for "manning" up to roids, even though he's still lying about it by claiming ignorance. These men are finely tuned MACHINES that know what octane fuel they are putting in their bodies down to the kilocalorie, hell they even have their own chefs to cook healthy meals to ensure they stick to their set breakdown of carbs/fats/protein.
Also, it's only a matter of time before Giambi's testimony will be leaked, and we find out he did them too. AND BONDS. PUT THE ASTERISK IN THE BOOK. Pisses me off that I just bought the latest TOTAL BASEBALL volume and they had to put that asshole on the cover, he doesn't, won't, and never will deserve anything but an asterisk (once the BALCO testimony documents are released) for disrespecting the game. I'm going to try to read it as fast as possible and sell it on eBay, if anyone wants it let me know.
Shef saying he doesn't know if Bonds took "the clear" or "the cream" is BS. I'm positive that Bonds told him about it while they were all working out with Anderson, about how it wouldn't show up on MLB drug tests b/c the Olympics couldn't even detect it. That Human Growth Hormone was undetectable as well. If Sheffield admits to not knowing he took steroids, then that means not only did he know, but he probably took more than he's admitting to in my book. Then again, it was always fcking obvious b/c the man's bat speed is insane and he has always been ripped like nobody's business. Genetics? No, because NOBODY looks like that in the game. That's why his trapezious muscle isn't attached to his clavicle anymore, his roided up muscles = today's injuries. But then again, it's not anything we didn't know before.
I have to give Shef credit for "manning" up to roids, even though he's still lying about it by claiming ignorance. These men are finely tuned MACHINES that know what octane fuel they are putting in their bodies down to the kilocalorie, hell they even have their own chefs to cook healthy meals to ensure they stick to their set breakdown of carbs/fats/protein.
Also, it's only a matter of time before Giambi's testimony will be leaked, and we find out he did them too. AND BONDS. PUT THE ASTERISK IN THE BOOK. Pisses me off that I just bought the latest TOTAL BASEBALL volume and they had to put that asshole on the cover, he doesn't, won't, and never will deserve anything but an asterisk (once the BALCO testimony documents are released) for disrespecting the game. I'm going to try to read it as fast as possible and sell it on eBay, if anyone wants it let me know.
ThePresence
Elite Member
Sheffield has a seperated shoulder, I've had that myself. I never took steroids in my life. Sheffield being ripped TODAY and his batspeed TODAY would actually show that he has NOT been using, because that stuff drops off really quickly once you stop. There is no way he is still using.
SP33Demon
Lifer
I read on ESPN that his trap wasn't connected anymore, along with the separated shoulder. That's what happens when things called ligaments cannot take the pressure of oversized, unnatural muscles exerting too much force on them.
Sheffield could very easily still be on them, as could Bonds. I've linked to an SI article before that explains how steroids are rampant in the minor leagues. How several minor leaguers have said that they will cycle them in the offseason when know they aren't tested, and how they time it perfectly so that they are off of them by the time the season rolls around. I don't agree that your build would "drop off really quickly once you stop". Remember, dramatically increased testosterone is critical for massive gains in muscle, but maintaining the muscle once you get there is easy. Since I used to bodybuild I can attest to this: as long as you're still maxing out what you were pressing while on the juice, and maintain your diet, it will not go away once you stop, especially in a small amount of time like April to September (6 months). It wouldn't surprise me if Sheffield was saying all of this in an attempt to convince people he still doesn't do them. That's like the wife who forgives her husband for cheating, she is an imbecile, b/c once a cheater always a cheater.
SP33Demon
Lifer
Link to SI Article I mentioned from 2002.
"According to two highly placed baseball sources, physicians for Major League Baseball reported at an internal meeting among doctors and trainers last December that 10% to 15% of the minor leaguers tested came up positive for steroids. The sources acknowledged that the number of users is probably significantly higher than that because baseball does not test in the off-season, when many players follow the traditional steroid training regimen: They shoot up in November, December and January, then get off steroids to start a four-week flexibility program before spring training."
So technically Sheffield could still be on the juice, if he cycled it in the offseason. Given that he already blatantly admitted to cheating, why would you believe he still doesn't take it in the offseason?
Some other interesting points from the article:
"Doctors suspect that steroid use is a major factor in the recent increase in baseball injuries, especially severe injuries such as complete muscle tears." Sheffield has a torn trapezius muscle, as well as a dislocated shoulder.
Players joke about the swollen heads, protruding brows and lantern jaws of hGH (Human Growth Hormone) users. "And they talk like this," Caminiti says, pushing his tongue to the front of his mouth and stammering, "because the size of their head changes." One major league executive knows of a star player whose hat size has grown two sizes in his late 30s. We now know that this is Bonds.
Says Texas lefthander Kenny Rogers, "Basically, steroids can jump you a level or two. The average player can become a star, and the star player can become a superstar, and the superstar? Forget it. He can do things we've never seen before. You take a guy who already has great hand-eye coordination and make him stronger, and without a doubt he'll be better." Bonds again.
He still appears close to his playing size of six feet, 200 pounds.[Caminiti who admitted roid use]
Further proof that you don't lose much after quitting roids.
Bonds's most dramatic size gains have come in the past four years, over which he has doubled his home run rate. Bonds, who insists he added muscle through diet and intense training, has issued several denials of rumors that he uses steroids, including one to a group of reporters in April in which he said, "You can test me and solve that problem [of rumors] real quick."
Yeah, of course you wouldn't have tested positive b/c the stuff you were using was undetectable at the time. Also, you could have cycled any anabolic detectable roids in the offseason, and knew you could hide behind the player's union and weak MLB testing. What a man you are, Bonds.
"According to two highly placed baseball sources, physicians for Major League Baseball reported at an internal meeting among doctors and trainers last December that 10% to 15% of the minor leaguers tested came up positive for steroids. The sources acknowledged that the number of users is probably significantly higher than that because baseball does not test in the off-season, when many players follow the traditional steroid training regimen: They shoot up in November, December and January, then get off steroids to start a four-week flexibility program before spring training."
So technically Sheffield could still be on the juice, if he cycled it in the offseason. Given that he already blatantly admitted to cheating, why would you believe he still doesn't take it in the offseason?
Some other interesting points from the article:
"Doctors suspect that steroid use is a major factor in the recent increase in baseball injuries, especially severe injuries such as complete muscle tears." Sheffield has a torn trapezius muscle, as well as a dislocated shoulder.
Players joke about the swollen heads, protruding brows and lantern jaws of hGH (Human Growth Hormone) users. "And they talk like this," Caminiti says, pushing his tongue to the front of his mouth and stammering, "because the size of their head changes." One major league executive knows of a star player whose hat size has grown two sizes in his late 30s. We now know that this is Bonds.
Says Texas lefthander Kenny Rogers, "Basically, steroids can jump you a level or two. The average player can become a star, and the star player can become a superstar, and the superstar? Forget it. He can do things we've never seen before. You take a guy who already has great hand-eye coordination and make him stronger, and without a doubt he'll be better." Bonds again.
He still appears close to his playing size of six feet, 200 pounds.[Caminiti who admitted roid use]
Further proof that you don't lose much after quitting roids.
Bonds's most dramatic size gains have come in the past four years, over which he has doubled his home run rate. Bonds, who insists he added muscle through diet and intense training, has issued several denials of rumors that he uses steroids, including one to a group of reporters in April in which he said, "You can test me and solve that problem [of rumors] real quick."
Yeah, of course you wouldn't have tested positive b/c the stuff you were using was undetectable at the time. Also, you could have cycled any anabolic detectable roids in the offseason, and knew you could hide behind the player's union and weak MLB testing. What a man you are, Bonds.
rh71
No Lifer
Taint this, taint that... Americans will still love baseball and all its statistics. That much is clear. Why even bother arguing anymore ?
Personally - I once loved the game... the sad state of affairs it is today makes me sick. I don't know why I subject myself to these baseball threads. Maybe it's to see who's obviously a Yankee fan and who's not. 😉
Personally - I once loved the game... the sad state of affairs it is today makes me sick. I don't know why I subject myself to these baseball threads. Maybe it's to see who's obviously a Yankee fan and who's not. 😉
maddogchen
Diamond Member
I think its shocking. the timing is piss poor too. couldn't he have waited till after the season? now its gonna cast a cloud over the playoffs.
I'm also surprised steroids can be taken as a cream, interesting.
I'm also surprised steroids can be taken as a cream, interesting.
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