Gary Johnson Alepwnd again: cant name a foreign leader

[glenn1]

It wasn't "can you name the prime minister of Tuvalu". It was, can you name one single foreign leader. This isn't rote memorizing of names. It is a question asking if he knows a single thing, anything, about foreign politics. The answer seems to be "no".

Well don't vote for him then. As for me I'd rather vote for the guy who never learned a foreign leader's name than one of the others who never learned that foreign affairs doesn't mean "let's see how many other country's governments we can depose in a coup today" or "wouldn't it be fun to start a multi-year civil war in Syria and spawn the creation of a few new terrorist groups"?

 

[dullard]

Well don't vote for him then. As for me I'd rather vote for the guy who never learned a foreign leader's name than one of the others who never learned that foreign affairs doesn't mean "let's see how many other country's governments we can depose in a coup today" or "wouldn't it be fun to start a multi-year civil war in Syria and spawn the creation of a few new terrorist groups"?

I'm most likely voting for Stein. Johnson would be my last choice of the four.

I guess I should not vote for you either then:

For that reason, if anything a far more reasonable and logical path we'd have for places like Syria and Iran would be the covert deployment of Special Forces teams to help train and coordinate indigenous anti-regime elements.

 

[theeedude]

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You do realize that Hillary was not US ambassador to Libya? She is not there to micromanage every decision in every country, that's the ambassador's job. He could have stayed at the embassy in Tripoli. But people are willing to take risks to do their jobs. No one ever said that being a diplomat or intelligence officer in a North African country where a civil war is going on is safe, people who take that job accept those risks. And secretary of state is not there to know where each of the thousands of diplomats is at any given moment, that's the job of ambassador on location.

 

[glenn1]

I'm most likely voting for Stein. Johnson would be my last choice of the four.

I guess I should not vote for you either then:

Stein would be my second choice. She's generally correct on many issues (civil rights, drug, crime, foreign policy, homeland security) with a few outlier nutty ideas which would never pass (ban GMOs?) and others that sound good but are authoritarian (mandatory vaccinations). And quite a bit of her economic ideas are based more on the idea that government policy is a means of retribution and "just" outcomes than reality and basic principles of fairness and rule of law dictate. But otherwise I find her superior to the other two candidates.

 

[dullard]

Stein would be my second choice. She's generally correct on many issues (civil rights, drug, crime, foreign policy, homeland security) with a few outlier nutty ideas which would never pass (ban GMOs?) and others that sound good but are authoritarian (mandatory vaccinations). And quite a bit of her economic ideas are based more on the idea that government policy is a means of retribution and "just" outcomes than reality and basic principles of fairness and rule of law dictate. But otherwise I find her superior to the other two candidates.

I agree that she has some nutty ideas. Which is why I qualified it with "most likely voting for". Thankfully, her nutty ideas tend to be in innocuous areas to me or, like you said, would never pass (banning GMOs is basically banning food now).

 

[glenn1]

I agree that she has some nutty ideas. Which is why I qualified it with "most likely voting for". Thankfully, her nutty ideas tend to be in innocuous areas to me or, like you said, would never pass (banning GMOs is basically banning food now).

We all have some nutty ideas. I think that someone who had no nutty ideas would be considered a bigger oddball to most than the average nut like you or me with a handful of nuts we carry in our heads.

 

[hal2kilo]

I really get the impression that the ticket really should have been reversed. Weld is a very serious policy wonk and Gary seems like a happy go lucky pot head.

 

[evident]

Sadly, there really is only one adult choice in this election. The rise of anti-intellectualism in this country (Palin, Trump) is scary.

 

[agent00f]

He's running for President of the United States and not MENSA. I find it rather odd that the same left that complains about standardized testing in schools wants POTUS candidates to spend their time memorizing lists of names. As if Putin is going to call on the red phone and say "I'm going to nuke Chicago unless you can name the prime minister of Tuvalu in less than 5 seconds."

Or to put it in a simpler way you understand, if not being "smart" enough to not remember names is the price I pay for someone with enough common sense and common decency to be against bullsh!t like NSA spying, killing U.S. citizens via drone strike without a trial, and continuing to wage proxy war (if not direct war) in Syria and elsewhere then sign me up to vote for the 'stupid' guy rather than the 'smart' woman. One who evidently is 'smart' enough to remember a list of names but not that it's illegal to have your own personal email server to avoid discovery of your official records via FOIA request.

OMG dude, expecting someone running for president to know at least some of his some peers/counterparts is too much these day. Were you thinking this is some kind of entry level job, like you really don't know what might be expected of roles with more responsibility?

Imagine an interview to be the CEO, and they asked if there's other executives you admire; you think the complete inability to name a single one won't be a dealbreaker? Esp. when a major part of your job will be to deal with them.

We can certainly sit here and pick at someone's resume, and if they have a long one there's certainly going to be issues to pick at, but think and hard about what you're arguing here.

 

[werepossum]

I agree that she has some nutty ideas. Which is why I qualified it with "most likely voting for". Thankfully, her nutty ideas tend to be in innocuous areas to me or, like you said, would never pass (banning GMOs is basically banning food now).

Worth pointing out that nutty ideas sometimes lead to sensible results. If by some miracle she were elected she could not ban GMO foods, but she might be able to get passed a bill mandating labeling, perhaps with country of origin as well. I see no reason that agra corps should be empowered to sell people they do not want without disclosing that fact, even if those not wanting to buy that product may be nutters.

Doesn't matter anyway. Vote for Stein (or Johnson) is a vote on principle, without having to consider the candidate's likely actions.

 

[MongGrel]

Worth pointing out that nutty ideas sometimes lead to sensible results. If by some miracle she were elected she could not ban GMO foods, but she might be able to get passed a bill mandating labeling, perhaps with country of origin as well. I see no reason that agra corps should be empowered to sell people they do not want without disclosing that fact, even if those not wanting to buy that product may be nutters.

Doesn't matter anyway. Vote for Stein (or Johnson) is a vote on principle, without having to consider the candidate's likely actions.

It is still a vote into the trash can, in reality.

Stein or Johnson do not stand a chance of being elected.

Johnson looks like as big of an idiot as Pence, who Trump would just say "run things" to me.

Actually Trump seems brighter than Pence, which is even scarier.

Yeah I really want Trump putting Pence in charge of shit, he's like the real life version of Zaphod Beeblebrox.

"He was briefly the President of the Galaxy (a role that involves no power whatsoever, and merely requires the incumbent to attract attention so no one wonders who's really in charge, a role for which Zaphod was perfectly suited). He is the only man to have survived the Total Perspective Vortex, though it was established (in the books and first two radio series) that he survived only because he was in an Electronically Synthesised Universe created especially for him, thus making him the most important being in that universe and thus uniquely equipped to survive its version of the Vortex. His brain-care specialist, Gag Halfrunt, also said, "Vell, Zaphod's just zis guy, you know?" He used his position as President of the Galaxy to steal the Heart of Gold, a spaceship taking advantage of Infinite Improbability Drive, at its unveiling."

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zaphod_Beeblebrox

Is just my opinion.

All Trump needs is a second head and a third arm.

Just a wave to GagHalfrunt, Ramen.



*looks for an electronic thumb, the Vogons are closing in on us*

Always know where your towel is.

 

[werepossum]

It is still a vote into the trash can, in reality.

Stein or Johnson do not stand a chance of being elected.

Johnson looks like as big of an idiot as Pence, who Trump would just say "run things" to me.

Yeah I really want Trump putting Pence in charge of shit, he's like the real life version of Zaphod Beeblebrox.

He was briefly the President of the Galaxy (a role that involves no power whatsoever, and merely requires the incumbent to attract attention so no one wonders who's really in charge, a role for which Zaphod was perfectly suited). He is the only man to have survived the Total Perspective Vortex, though it was established (in the books and first two radio series) that he survived only because he was in an Electronically Synthesised Universe created especially for him, thus making him the most important being in that universe and thus uniquely equipped to survive its version of the Vortex. His brain-care specialist, Gag Halfrunt, also said, "Vell, Zaphod's just zis guy, you know?" He used his position as President of the Galaxy to steal the Heart of Gold, a spaceship taking advantage of Infinite Improbability Drive, at its unveiling.

Is just my opinion.

All Trump needs is a second head and a third arm.

Neither Stein nor Johnson are evil. Hillary and the Orange One are evil. Voting against evil is never a vote thrown away, for electing the lesser evil is still electing evil. If I must have an evil President, it will be without my vote.

 

[MongGrel]

Neither Stein nor Johnson are evil. Hillary and the Orange One are evil. Voting against evil is never a vote thrown away, for electing the lesser evil is still electing evil. If I must have an evil President, it will be without my vote.

Bullshit.

But it's your vote.

 

[Concerned Citizen]

You do realize that Hillary was not US ambassador to Libya? She is not there to micromanage every decision in every country, that's the ambassador's job. He could have stayed at the embassy in Tripoli. But people are willing to take risks to do their jobs. No one ever said that being a diplomat or intelligence officer in a North African country where a civil war is going on is safe, people who take that job accept those risks. And secretary of state is not there to know where each of the thousands of diplomats is at any given moment, that's the job of ambassador on location.

You do realize that the elites killed quaddaffi because he wanted to put the African Coalition (which he was the head of) onto a gold standard right? Hillary was their hit man in that instance.
A few weeks earlier it was all good with Obama
Three weeks later.

Next thing you know:

And there you go
Don't forget Yemen and Syria,either

 

[agent00f]

Hillary Clinton is an evil supervillian who killed Qaddafi for his brilliant plan to introduce growth inhibiting economics to a developing continent. No wonder this brain trust is the future of western civilization.

 

[yllus]

Holy Vishnu, even your third party candidates are awful this election. Maybe you guys should just skip this one, let Obama keep at it for another four and try again fresh in 2020?

 

[werepossum]

Holy Vishnu, even your third party candidates are awful this election. Maybe you guys should just skip this one, let Obama keep at it for another four and try again fresh in 2020?

If that were an option, he'd win in a landslide.

 

[sportage]

Gary is a joke.
I was open to legalizing pot till I watched Gary.
A mind is a terrible thing to waste.
I know...I know.... a lot of people hate Hillary, but really? Gary Johnson? Seriously?
If anyone prefers Gary over Hillary, I think its time to reevaluate your own ability to think clearly. And monitor your drug use as well.

 

[Fanatical Meat]

Rabble, rabble, rabble....Hillary's a killer, rabble, rabble, rabble....throw out some speculation, rabble, rabble.

Fixed it to make it easy to understand, now Concerned Citizen can leave a steaming dump in another thread.

 

[Avalon]

Gary is a joke.
I was open to legalizing pot till I watched Gary.
A mind is a terrible thing to waste.
I know...I know.... a lot of people hate Hillary, but really? Gary Johnson? Seriously?
If anyone prefers Gary over Hillary, I think its time to reevaluate your own ability to think clearly. And monitor your drug use as well.

I prefer Gary over Hillary, and I don't use drugs. I must be a unicorn.

 

[ivwshane]

I prefer Gary over Hillary, and I don't use drugs. I must be a unicorn.

Definitely something special

 

[dank69]

I prefer Gary over Hillary, and I don't use drugs. I must be a unicorn.

Maybe you just don't understand that he is pushing more trickle-down and deregulation.

 

[Fanatical Meat]

This isn't funny anymore. Yesterday he couldn't name North Korea's leader

http://www.msn.com/en-us/news/polit...reas-leader-kim-jong-un/ar-BBx3t5v?li=BBnbfcL

Also yesterday Bill Weld threw in the towel and said his #1 goal is to keep Trump from winning.

 

[openwheel]

Trump is complete joke with deplorable followers. Johnson is just another career politician riding on a Republican ticket. There is no difference between him, GOP and state controlled news outlet Fox News.

The only logical choice is Hillary Clinton. Come on Americans, wake the @%%k up.

All the USA haters around the World are rooting for Trump, including Putin. They can't wait to see us self destruct. Fact is, I think the Trump deplorables are not exactly patriots either. They put the Evangelical Church before GOP Party, and country last. Very sad.

 

[KMFJD]

Why is it that in America not being very smart is seen as a virtue by a large percentage of the people? The smarter they are the harder they try to look stupid for the majority it seems...