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Turin39789

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Anyone have advice/experience in building a garage/having one built.

We're moving to a home with a cute little 92 year old one car garage complete with chimney for shoeing horses.


But I want moooooore!


So we're thinking about taking it down, saving the bricks and having a block garage built with a brick veneer on the side/front that face street. We have enough room for a 24x30 at the back of the yard.

I feel a little guilt at taking down the old structure, but it has a flat roof that needs replacing anyway.

I should be able to handle the demo, though this will be my first time cleaning bricks. From there I imaging I'll have to let someone else take over. Hire one contractor or call the concrete guys, etc myself?

Any software that is easy to learn where I can work on the design?
 
Try Broderbund Home Architect. My parents have used that for all their designs.

Give yourself tall interior ceilings, and consider radiant floor heating, depending on where you live.
 
Originally posted by: alkemyst
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budget?
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I'd like to get out for $15k, but that is probably pushing it. Since the garage is on the back of the yard facing the alley, we'd ideally like a one car garage door facing the house, so we can open up the garage to the yard and maybe extend a square pad from that door into the yard with a roof.

The more I dream of the garage the more expensive I keep making it.

The home is also 92 years old and brick, so while I know stick and vinyl will be the cheaper way I don't think its going to fit. I have a friend who did a mail order steel garage, had the pad poured and put it up himself in no time, but again I don't think it will fit. This is obviously an older neighborhood, and the alley is lined with block garages.
 
$15k is going to be pushing it...a steel building you can probably do at that price and that 720 sq ft size.

A couple of key things though...bigger is always better but you don't want to sacrifice usability for that

I'd go with the highest ceilings your area allows and try to have plans that allow for storage in that space.

Brick veneer is going to be pricey...Hardiboard is about the price of T1-11 and comes in all sorts of finishes. Stuff weighs a ton though.

Doing it in concrete block as well will be pricey. There are many framed garages even here in S. Florida that are perfectly stable. Block walls add to some problems as well with running electric and mounting. I personally like open walls in a garage to store items and make built ins.

The garagejournal guys have all been there / done this. It's an excellent resource.

I only have a 14x16 workshop, standard 7'-8' ceiling inside with open rafters.

I will probably end up expanding it along the trusses first to about 14x22' and when the budget allows redo it to about 16x24 and about a 20' peak and a more open roof plan...I plan on adding a carport right in front of it as well for mostly working out of the garage on dusty projects. I am in mine daily.

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Right now we have quotes for a 24x24 block at aroudn $15k, and around 17.5 for the 30x24. That is for block with gable roof, vinyl on the upper with a window, door, garage door and brick veneer on one face of the garage. Those were the generic quotes without them reusing our old bricks or adding doors.

The garage at our current place is a 1.5 car block, storage goes well with some added shelving, and some nails on the bottoms fo the truss give me hanging space for shovels etc.

The real issue is going to be wanting to customize it some, as far as adding the door facing the house etc. We're going to check with a few different contractors to see what the average rate is for letting someone else manage it all before I think about trying to organize separate folks.

For now the plan is to pick up a copy of home architect and try to really lay out what we want. Just wanted to start a thread to pick up any useful advice from anyone who has had one built before.
 
I know the concrete for a 2 car garage is about 5k, we did all the form & flat work, we actually did the driveway and poured the foundation for a small back room too so its a little less not sure how much tho. I don't have the number on the lumber and siding but I would guess it was another 5-7k. Are you planning on finishing the inside? Windows? Is it going to be attached? Power? I would say 15k is doable if you do all the work.
 
Originally posted by: Turin39789
Right now we have quotes for a 24x24 block at aroudn $15k, and around 17.5 for the 30x24. That is for block with gable roof, vinyl on the upper with a window, door, garage door and brick veneer on one face of the garage. Those were the generic quotes without them reusing our old bricks or adding doors.

The garage at our current place is a 1.5 car block, storage goes well with some added shelving, and some nails on the bottoms fo the truss give me hanging space for shovels etc.

The real issue is going to be wanting to customize it some, as far as adding the door facing the house etc. We're going to check with a few different contractors to see what the average rate is for letting someone else manage it all before I think about trying to organize separate folks.

For now the plan is to pick up a copy of home architect and try to really lay out what we want. Just wanted to start a thread to pick up any useful advice from anyone who has had one built before.
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With a 6" 3000psi or better pad? Electrical? Permits? excavate the old and regrade? $15k seems really cheap for a 24x24 concrete block..at 17.5k that 30x24 would be a steal.

I'd get over to garagejournal.
 
My dad and I built a 24x30 in his backyard for under $8k. This was 1996. T1-11 siding, 3tab roof, LOTS of concrete in addition to the slab (that was all done by a contractor). We did all of the other work. Be sure to plan for HVAC so you can use it year round. Dad had to do that later when it was too hot out there to work.
 
You should check with your local building codes first. Some building codes will allow you to "Grand Father" some of your current building codes if you retain a certain amount of the original structure. If you demolish the original structure, you may be putting yourself at the mercy of all the current building codes. I am going through this with my local City Hall. I wanted to build a small-ish (12ft x 20ft) storage shed in my back yard. It turns out that I would save almost $3000 by just adding on to my current garage rather than building a new structure. For me it is all about the foundation. If I add on to the existing garage it's much cheaper. That's where I would start. You might save yourself a few thousand dollars by not tearing down the current structure... assuming it's salvageable. Good Luck!!!

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