Gaming PC upgrade

Jboyd1829

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Hello all,
I have an old computer that I am hoping to spice up a little bit in order to use a SSD I was given as a gift. I did upgrade the GPU to a 560 TI about 6 months-1 year ago. The rest of the hardware is now 4 years old, so I'm looking at upgrading Mobo, CPU, and RAM at this time. Below are my answers to the questions.

1. What YOUR PC will be used for. That means what types of tasks you'll be performing.
Gaming and general internet browsing/word processing

2. What YOUR budget is. A price range is acceptable as long as it's not more than a 20% spread
Looking at upgrading just CPU/Mobo/RAM so probably not more than $500

3. What country YOU will be buying YOUR parts from.
USA

4. IF YOU have a brand preference. That means, are you an Intel-Fanboy, AMD-Fanboy, ATI-Fanboy, nVidia-Fanboy, Seagate-Fanboy, WD-Fanboy, etc.
Prefer Intel CPU

5. If YOU intend on using any of YOUR current parts, and if so, what those parts are.

Current Build:
CPU: Q6600 2.4 GHz Core duo
Mobo: 630i
Ram: 8 GB DDR2 @ 800 MHz
GPU: Nvidia 560 TI 2 GB
Hard drive: 500 GB @ 7200 rpm
Power supply: Dell 750 Watt

Would reuse:
Hard Drive + new SSD (Though upgrading old hard drive would be priority around December as its nearing the end of its life-cycle likely)
Dell Power supply + XPS case

7. IF YOU plan on overclocking or run the system at default speeds.
I typically just run at default speeds. However, the price difference between K and non-K processors is small enough I figure I might as well get the K and have the option to OC at a later time.

8. What resolution will you be using?
1920x1080

9. WHEN do you plan to build it?
Within the month

I do have a Microcenter that is about 45 miles away so it is fairly easy to go there since I have seen some decent Mobo/Processor combos there. Otherwise, Newegg has typically gotten my business on prior computer part upgrades.

I would really prefer to re-use my Dell XPS case as I like the design and durability even though this will cost me front side USB 3.0. From what I've read the mobo goes on the wrong side, but it appears to fit standard ATX design. I've also browsed my630i to try and find out any potential problems associated with using that case as an upgrade case. If it's not worth the potential problems the look of the Series One suits me as well.

I have read the mid-range builder's guide and feel that the ASRock Z77 board would probably do the trick for me. However, Newegg is running a deal on the Extreme which includes the RAM. It still appears to be much more expensive than buying through Microcenter though. Any thoughts on any of this would be appreciated.

Jboyd1829
 

lehtv

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The Z77 Extreme4 deal sounds good.

Z77 extreme4 $135, includes 2x4GB RAM
i5-3570K $215 AP

= $350 AP

From MC you should go with 3570K + Z77 Pro3 for $235, then get G.Skill RAM from newegg for $39. Overall $76 cheaper. The cost of gas for the trip to MC could be more that difference though, only grab the MC deal if you're headed that way on other business.

Optionally add Hyper 212 Evo $31 for overclocking

Your budget would also fit a 128GB SSD, but in your shoes I'd wait 6 months and buy a 256GB SSD for about the same cost.
 

riversend

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Just out of curiosity, what is the SSD you were given? If less than 128GB then you could look at returning and taking your remaining budget to upgrade as lehtv said. Otherwise completely agree with his recs.
 

Jboyd1829

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Its actually a Samsung 830 256 GB drive. They were running some really good specials (around $150) on them over the past 2 weeks due to the 840 announcement that my fiance decided to pick one up as a surprise. Unfortunately my hardware is too old to be surprised anymore and rather than take it back, its likely time to go ahead and upgrade the rest of the insides.

I know I've seen in the mid-range guide people talking about the reliability of the ASRocks, but the reviews on Newegg do make me a little nervous. Have you guys heard enough positive stories about those boards and if one or the other boards (pro3 vs extreme4) tends to be more reliable?

Last question, which you guys may not be able to address, is it worth me trying to get these parts into the old XPS case? The more I think about using the old case, the more I think that it might not fit due to placement/cabling issues. I don't expect either of you to fully read this, but issues 3-6 make me most concerned on this website.

http://www.my630i.com/viewtopic.php?f=4&t=2197

Any other opinions anyone can provide I really appreciate. Thanks again for all the help.

JBoyd1829
 

lehtv

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On this forum, I've only heard one complaint about Asrock Z77 boards. One user claimed the Extreme4 couldn't keep a stable overclock and he switched it to an Asus. The rest of the comments have been positive and I think I've read about 5-10 of them so far.

I'm not sure what it is about the newegg reviews that is making you nervous. Z77 Extreme4 has 364 reviews with an average of 4 eggs.

57% 5 eggs
16% 4 eggs
4% 3 eggs
6% 2 eggs
16% 1 egg

Keep in mind that negative user experiences are much more likely than positive ones to end up on newegg, because you would expect the board to work without issues. If everyone who bought the board rated it too, you would see the average rating tend even more strongly towards 5 eggs. Also, almost all of the 1 egg reviews are DOA units. Any model from any manufacturer can be DOA so pay no attention to the 1 egg reviews.
 
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riversend

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Great drive, great price on the 830. So, you are gtg there, and it looks like you have btwn $150-$200 left to go with assuming you go with one of lehtv's i3570 build recommendations.

From mfenn's guide, here is a case and PSU that might work for you:

XFX Core 550W $60 AR
Antec Series One $45 AP

I did not read the article you linked, but when I did my first build years ago I was very happy to have ditched the OEM parts to get something I could config on my own. Again, I make this suggestion with no specific knowledge of your Dell case and PSU.

If those are no longer available, there are plenty of PSU options in the ~500W range and cases that you can snag for less than $150 total. With your budget you have a range of choices.
 

Jboyd1829

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Thank you both for your quick replies and setting aside any fears I have about the motherboards. I'll likely purchase very soon and am looking forward to having that new computer feel again. Have a great day.

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mfenn

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I think the biggest sticking point with an OEM case would be the front panel headers. They're usually in one big block to allow for quick assembly in the factory, but that block is not necessarily the same as what you would see on a normal mobo. There just simple wires and headers, so you could definitely cut the block connector off and rewire new ends to it, but do you really like that case that much?

As for ASRock motherboards being "unreliable," that is FUD, plain and simple. As you can see from the actual data, the top 4 vendors in terms of volume are all pretty close, with ASRock having a slight edge.

As for the rest, I'd say that riversend and lehtv have given you some good advice, as is the norm.
 

Jboyd1829

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Pulling the trigger on the purchase tomorrow as I will be near Microcenter. Below is what I'm looking at. Please let me know if you have any recommendations before I make the buy.

3570K - 169.99
ASRock Extreme 4 - 84.99
Antec 302 - 64.99
Corsair XMS3 series 8GB 1600 - 49.99 --> 29.99 AR
Hyper 212 EVO - 29.99
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Total Price: 399.95 before tax

Will likely buy all at MC unless there is a big enough price difference to justify waiting a few days instead of trying to get stuff running tomorrow evening. Thanks again for everyone's help.
 

Jboyd1829

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Awesome. Thanks mfenn. I'll keep an eye out for any other replies but thanks again everyone for making this build a lot better.
 

Jboyd1829

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Wanted to give an update to everyone that helped. Got it all put together yesterday and it is working beautifully. I had to pick up a new power supply as the Dell XPS one was oversized for the case I got. Still, everything installed wonderfully and since this is my first PC with a SSD it is just amazing how fast it is running.

Thanks again Mfenn, Riversend, and LehTV for your help in this matter. It's like Christmas came early. Have a great day.

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Jboyd1829

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Haha. No that was iOS autocorrect at its finest. Corrected lehtv to le TV and then I corrected the rest without lower casing. Either way, thanks again.
 

riversend

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Awesome, glad it worked out. Always nice to have a new build in hand, particularly one that blows away the last set of hardware.

So, lehtv, educate me by telling me why the first letter is not capitalized?:)
 

mfenn

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Wanted to give an update to everyone that helped. Got it all put together yesterday and it is working beautifully. I had to pick up a new power supply as the Dell XPS one was oversized for the case I got. Still, everything installed wonderfully and since this is my first PC with a SSD it is just amazing how fast it is running.

Thanks again Mfenn, Riversend, and LehTV for your help in this matter. It's like Christmas came early. Have a great day.

Jboyd1829

Awesome, glad you like it! :)

I hope this is not a common mistake. Americans...

Oh, it's a common mistake. Maybe I should start an image macro? :wub: