Gaming Headsets?

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idiotekniQues

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headphones that claim to be 5.1 surround or what not are just gimmicks with all those lil speakers inside, it is just hoeey.

it just cant happen with the way all the channels are all crammed against your ears, they just cant get the separation that 5.1 surround gets cause it is coming from SEPARATE SPEAKERS in different spots around a room which is what makes a 5.1 system work well.

the best way to get positional sound is to simply have good quality cans that can reflect the sound processing of the pc/game in the best possible way.

unfortunately good quality cans do not come with mic's attached generally speaking.

ultimately, a top quality set of cans for like $200 plus an offboard mic, or somethin like a cheaper pair of senn's just worn around your neck with the mic boom stickin up, would be best for positional sound but lose some for the microphone part. i tried my akg k501's like this with my cheap senns jsut slung on my neck to use the mic. yeah the akg k501's have a sick soundstage and as a result work great for gaming but the arrangement was just not comfortable.

again in clan-based gaming, good sound coming from you is crucial, every communication is important and cant be a distraction tot he team, just be concise and clear without picking up your background noise and distracting the team.

i couldnt help myself, after reading this thread again, i ordered some pc-166's :D

as someone said it best on another forum:

"Originally Posted by kent1146
5.1 Surround headphones are a gimmick.

In the speaker world, a 5.1 surround system provides the effect of surround sound by separating sound channels, and playing through a speaker positioned at a certain spot in the room. Because of that speaker positioning, your ears and brain are able to interpret "Aha! That gunshot sounded like it came behind my right shoulder!" In the headphone world, you lose the speaker positioning (since all speakers are crammed into the headphone housing, and are right next to your ear). Therefore, the surround effect is lost.

The way around this is to use sound processing (like Dolby Surround Headphones, Dolby Stereo Downmix, Creative X-Fi CMSS, etc). It basically takes a 5.1 surround signal, calculates what your left/right ears WOULD hear if you were sitting in a room with a 5.1 speaker setup, and plays that calculated/processed sound into 2-channel headphones.

Therefore, if you are looking for good surround sound in headphones, get yourself a good set of high-quality stereo headphones (Sennheiser, Grado, Audio Technica, AKG, etc), and something that does the surround downmixing for you like the Creative X-Fi."

 

potato28

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Originally posted by: idiotekniQues
Originally posted by: konakona
Honestly, I dont see why some prefer to have headsets as opposed to better headphones + mic. People in audio hobby generally dislike headsets for a reason - they are usually much worse in the same price bracket.

The microphone I have is a logitech USB that I bought a few years ago. Has a nice glowing LED that works as a on/off switch. No need for any driver installation, makes itself the default recording device upon plugging in. Never had/saw/used a heaset that had a better built in mic than this neat little thing which set me back like $15 shipped. Headphones > headsets, hard to argue there.

Do you go to lanparties a lot? Just curious to see why headsets are needed for gaming (not like you are going to be tilting your head all over the place and looking away while gaming)

being a gamer who uses vent a lot, i tried using a desk mic and a headset just works better.

that is why after trying a couple different brands i read a lot about sennheiser who i knew is known first for top notch headphones. i think they break the mold by not sacrificing headphone quality to get the boom mic in there and making it a headset.

also, the mic quality is top notch.

Then get a good pair of headphones, and use the headset for the mic only. That's what I've been doing for the past 8 months and it sounds a lot better than my old desktop mic, which wasn't of the greatest quality.
 

idiotekniQues

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Originally posted by: potato28
Originally posted by: idiotekniQues
Originally posted by: konakona
Honestly, I dont see why some prefer to have headsets as opposed to better headphones + mic. People in audio hobby generally dislike headsets for a reason - they are usually much worse in the same price bracket.

The microphone I have is a logitech USB that I bought a few years ago. Has a nice glowing LED that works as a on/off switch. No need for any driver installation, makes itself the default recording device upon plugging in. Never had/saw/used a heaset that had a better built in mic than this neat little thing which set me back like $15 shipped. Headphones > headsets, hard to argue there.

Do you go to lanparties a lot? Just curious to see why headsets are needed for gaming (not like you are going to be tilting your head all over the place and looking away while gaming)

being a gamer who uses vent a lot, i tried using a desk mic and a headset just works better.

that is why after trying a couple different brands i read a lot about sennheiser who i knew is known first for top notch headphones. i think they break the mold by not sacrificing headphone quality to get the boom mic in there and making it a headset.

also, the mic quality is top notch.

Then get a good pair of headphones, and use the headset for the mic only. That's what I've been doing for the past 8 months and it sounds a lot better than my old desktop mic, which wasn't of the greatest quality.

as i posted above, i used a nice pair of cans that have a phenomenal soundstage - the akg K501's with my cheap senn's wrapped around my neck just for the mic. it just wasnt comfy. i move around a lot when i play fps and it just didnt work out.

i keep my mic to voice activated. i dont want to keep it super sensitive so it doesnt pick up random noises, just my voice trying to talk, so it neesd to stay near mymouth.

pc 166 on the way :D
 

Jschmuck2

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Hard to beat that Plantronics DSP 500 deal that was floating around a while back. I love mine. 30 bucks.
 

zagood

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btw, I have the 5h, and they're excellent. The new 4h is basically the same, but without the "breakapart" headband, and cheaper.

Oh, but if you have a sound card, get the regular version, not the USB.

-z