Gaming headphones advice

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  1. Asingo

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    I am slowly preparing to Amazon black friday where I will buy lot of stuff including some headset[​IMG]. I don`t know anything about gaming headphones, it a new area for me. Could you make a list of top 3 quality and top 3 best buy? I don`t know how much I will spend on them, probably depends on how much money will be left for them because they are not my top priority. Here is the list (I found these headphones in my local stores so I presume there are also available on Amazon):



    Corsair VOID Gaming USB

    Corsair VOID Gaming Stereo

    Creative Sound Blaster Tactic3D Rage Wireless V2

    Creative Sound BlasterX H5 Tournament Edition

    Creative Sound Blaster XH3

    Creative Sound BlasterX H7 Tournament Edition

    Sennheiser GSP 300

    Cooler Master MasterPulse Pro 7.1 Headset with Bass FX

    Razer Kraken Pro V2

    SteelSeries Siberia 200

    SteelSeries Arctis 5

    SteelSeries Arctis 3

    Acer Predator Gaming Headset by SteelSeries

    SteelSeries Siberia 350

    Plantronics RIG 500HD

    Razer Kraken

    Plantronics RIG 515HD LAVA

    Superlux HD668B

    hyperx cloud stinger

    hyperx cloud II

    hyperx cloud

    HyperX Cloud Revolver (S)
     
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  3. fastman

    fastman Golden Member

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    Decide if you want open or closed ear enclosures, wireless or wired and go from there. Something like this is a very personal decision as you will have it on YOUR head for hours. Try on what interests you and go from there.
    Personally I like SteelSeries.
     
  4. Asingo

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    Open/ closed - no prejudice
    Wired/wireless - I prefer wired but wireless is good too.
     
  5. DigDog

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    ok, well, get ready.

    disclaimer: i'm right and you are wrong.

    You have a pretty good list there. For example, you haven't got any Beats or Fatal1ty or other crap like that. I know personally at least 1 high-skill player using steelseries siberia, another on plantronics, another on SS 200, and there's several publicized who use the hyperx 2. Cypher i think uses the kraken.

    The list in itself is useless. This is true not because of some nerd factor or or because people don't know good quality tech, but because of some very real physics and physiology-related aspects of sound and hearing. Throw in also business and electrical stuff.
    There is no way to know what any of those sets will sound like, and no way to know what they will sound like to you. There really is no way for humans to describe accurately to another human aspects of sense perception unless they both have some extensive library of samples to base themselves in; so, "bassier than the X, but roomier than the Y, with a bit of shrill like the Z, but not quite like the Q".

    This is why we cannot recommend one out of that bunch. Also, the thing here is that you are looking for a gaming headset, and not a hi-end audio reproduction. You can spend well north of $3000 on a single set of headphones and still be in that range where people will say "oh, but that $5000 headset is SO MUCH BETTER".

    All the ones you listed are good. They all have slightly different sound profiles.

    As fastman said, open or closed is a big difference. Closed cup make it easier to hear detail, and they tend to be much boomier (which you might not want, if you want headphones that make you better at your game), and while they are more comfortable when you put them on, they do tend to "cook your ears" faster than open headsets.
    This is another thing where, unless you have real world experience, you just need to bite the bullet, buy one, and then live with it.

    wireless for headphones is one of the few cases where it can actually help, however, you do have to live with recharging your set, which can be annoying.

    finally, i can give you one additional piece of advice. You can do two things, both of which have their upside and downside. Buy a set, use it for a while, and then buy another. And so on. You will learn by experience which headsets work for you.
    Option 2, is do not buy any of those. Buy a professional quality headset, such as sennheiser, AKG, Audio-Technica (which is what i have), Beyerdynamic, etc, and stick a microphone on them.

    for example, see: https://www.soundonsound.com/reviews/studio-headphones-0 (Sound On Sound)
    or https://www.gearslutz.com/board/so-much-gear-so-little-time/508831-best-mixing-headphones.html (Gearslutz)

    Everything i typed above still applies. You'll quickly find out that, because of business reasons, and electrical design, there are a number of headphones in the audio world which are considered the go-to headphones, such as the Sennheiser HD600. You can get a pair of Audio-Technica ATH-M35 for $70 and they are fantastic.

    Then you go to https://antlionaudio.com/ and you get a microphone from them. they even have a bundle .. https://antlionaudio.com/products/m50x-modmic-5-ultimate-bundle
     
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  6. Asingo

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    Thanks for long answer ;)

    I can`t find these you mention Audio-Technica ATH-M35 on Amazon in Europe. I can only find models: M20x, M30x, M40x, M50x, MSR7BK, MSR7GM - the last two are outside my budget but maybe they will be cheaper on Black friday.
     
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    For gaming I really like the Hyperx Cloud headset, very comfortable and durable. Closed back with deep base. Need a 600 ohm capable motherboard/amp to get the most out of them though.
     
  8. DigDog

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    here are the M30x https://www.amazon.co.uk/Audio-Tech...60159&sr=1-1&keywords=audio+technica+ath+m30x

    another thing you need to consider when reading reviews, is that since most headphones are $100+, few people have tried more than a couple - not near enough to have a understanding of the headphone market panorama. they will tell you "i can recommend this" but what they mean is "i have them and they don't suck".

    Don't get confused by the numbering system. M30 doesn't mean they are worse than M35 and M40 etc. It means they have been constructed with less expensive means. Even with cheaper means, you can still build excellent products. For example, most speaker systems are built with materials, that if used in a headphone set, would be considered garbage. Super-expensive headsets use rare-earth materials that have very slight technical-design advantages over other cheaper materials, but all this does is really create a different sound profile. You CAN buy perfect headphones, just google "studio reference headphones". Most don't cost more than $300. What they do, is reproduce a 20-20k Hz signal perfectly, 100%.

    The really high end headphones, those that cost thousands of dollars, aren't meant to do that. They are meant to create warmth, to excite particular frequencies. It's basically changing the spectrum in some parts to make the sound more appealing than what "normal" sound is. (like putting extra bass in a song, because "bass is cool")
    You don't need that to play well. Incidentally, too much bass makes it harder to hear smaller detail, such as footsteps.


    seems like the M35 have been discontinued. the M30x are their replacement.
     
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    I've been a long fan of Steelseries products. I purchased the Arctis 5's not to long ago and I absolutely love them. The microphone is very clear and I have never had a single complaint about them on skype, discord or twitch. Positional audio for them is amazing as well, I am an avid gamer and play a lot of competitive first person shooters. Being able to hear exactly where someone is in games like this is extremely important and the Arctis 5's do a great job at that. I haven't tried a lot of different head phones, but I am very happy with my decision to purchase these.
     
  12. jerald8

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    I like the sound and clarity of my Logitech G231.