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chocobaR

chocobaR

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Sep 17, 2001
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Asus A8N-E
Athlon 64 3000+
Kingston KVR 400Mhz DDR No ECC 1G Kit
SATA 80.0 WD 7200 8MB WD800JD
LG CD-RW+DVD 52/32/52+16
ATX Alpha Mid 602B No PS
480W ATX P4 Antec TRUE480
MSI PCIe 128MB 6600 GT SLI TV-Out
Viewsonic G90F / LG F900B / LG T910BU?

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~$1,440 US


Tasks:

- Photoshop
- 3D modelling
- Anime
- Gaming


I will NOT overclock. I'm gonna use a single 6600 GT because I'm not that rich :s I'll be using onboard sound... That's pretty much it.

Recommend me some nice parts :)

Thanks!


Edit: About the monitor, what do you suggest out of the three I listed?
 
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Ogrt48

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If you wanna play most games on high with some AF/AA I'd atleast go with the 6800nu for the video card.
And you're going to need more ram anyways, get atleast a gig. my 768mb is showing its age with newer games.
 
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stevty2889

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RAM is pretty inexpensive right now, so I would definatly go with a gig of ram. I just upped mine to 2 gigs, cause I was getting some lag in a few MMORGP's when my page file was being used, even with 1 gig..
 
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mwmorph

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Ike0069

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Since you don't OC, look at the Chaintech MB for $100.
1 GB Value RAM.
Get the Sonata case. It comes with a PSU that will provide you plenty of power. You can get it with free shipping form Newegg for $100.
You might want to get a slightly bigger HD. Shouldn't be much for for a 120 or even a 160 GB.
 
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Promethply

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You want to get at least 1GB of RAM, especially if you do lots of 3D modelling and Photoshop.

Corsair ValueSelect RAMs doesn't cost much, and runs stably.

Your system will also run smoothly using PSU with a total of at least 25Amps on the 12V rail(s)

The Antec Truepower2 from 380W (total of 32Amps on 12V rails) and up:

Antec TRUEPOWERII 380 Watt ATX12V v2.0 PSU

 
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KoolDrew

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Get the Chaintech VNF4 since it is pretty cheap and performs well. Also get 1GB of RAM. Get an Antec case with a PSU. Those combos are pretty good. The Sonata is a great case.
 
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HamburgerBoy

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This Antec case and power supply should be enough. The case is supposed to be built like a rock and the power supply should be easily enough.
 
RussianSensation

RussianSensation

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drop the motherboard to $100 one. Get antec sonata or something similar. Take those 2 savings and get X800XL PCIe. Also what about NEC3520 instead of the CD/DVD combo? LG makes good DVD writers with 4163 also.

monitor...i have the g90f. It's pretty good. It's not "perfectly" flat if you actually like "inside" the monitor. what about samsung 997 or something along those lines?
 
chocobaR

chocobaR

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Originally posted by: RussianSensation
drop the motherboard to $100 one. Get antec sonata or something similar. Take those 2 savings and get X800XL PCIe. Also what about NEC3520 instead of the CD/DVD combo? LG makes good DVD writers with 4163 also.

monitor...i have the g90f. It's pretty good. It's not "perfectly" flat if you actually like "inside" the monitor. what about samsung 997 or something along those lines?
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I read a few bad things about the Samsung 997DF so I'm a bit skeptical now... :eek:
 
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imported_Woody

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Figured I'd just add to this thread.....

I want to purchase RAM for my own new system but am thinking that while 2x512MB is good for today, I may find that limiting in the future. I'm a heavy overclocker and plan on building around an Athlon64 939 system. The best running RAM only comes in 2x512MB modules max and the NForce4 systems don't seem to run as well with four sticks of RAM as they do with two. Corsair XMS is a pretty nice deal for a matched pair of 1GB (2GB total) for as low as $315 and can run at 2,3,3,6. Not sure about the command rate (1T or 2T) but I'm assuming they will run at 1T. Anybody have any experience with matched high end 1GB modules running together on a socket 939 system? My understanding is that running 2GB in a 4x512MB configuration forces you to set the command rate to 2T which slows down a 939 system significantly.
 
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imported_Woody

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I just answered my own question.....an excerpt from "PC Perspective:"

As with most new core releases from AMD, the Athlon 64 has gone though another memory controller upgrade that addresses at least one specific issue that has plagued the platform for a while. Anyone who has tried to populate all four DIMM slots on an Athlon 64 motherboard with double sided DIMMs (most are) would find that the board might not work, and if it did, the memory timings would have to be relaxed for it to be stable. In some cases, the memory frequency would drop to 333 MHz as well. Obviously, that isn't the way many customers wanted to work, so the new Venice core is set to allow all four DIMM slots to be populated with nearly all memory and run at standard 1T latencies at DDR400. Other minor improvements were made as well that should make the overall performance on the Venice core just slightly faster than the Winchester or Newcastle counterpart processors.
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Looks like the upcoming Venice core series addresses this issue. So I can get a set of 2x512MB high performance RAM now and upgrade later on with an additional matched set when I ever install applications that demand more than 1GB RAM!
 
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pyrosity

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Woody, just remember to get a Venice core CPU. ;) They likely won't find availability and MSRP for a little while, so if you can be patient...

chocoboR, first, why is that going to cost ~ $1500? Is somebody/some company building that for you or something? The computer in my sig when all is said and done will cost ~ $1500, and the socket difference really doesn't cost that much. Secondly, where's your power supply? Hamster running wheels isn't going to cut it for a gaming computer. ;) Thirdly, and while "gaming computer" is on my mind, you really should get at least a 6600 GT for your video card if you're going to be building a system that you want to play games. The 6600 GT has great performance per dollar, but it's still not as good as the x800 XL. Be sure to know the difference between shader model 2.0 and 3.0 and what performance gains that games built from the ground up in 3.0 should yield. If you plan on upgrading the video card within a year or so I would get the x800 XL as that thing is a graphic-churning beast for (sometimes) slightly under $300.
 
Pr0d1gy

Pr0d1gy

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Originally posted by: Ogrt48
If you wanna play most games on high with some AF/AA I'd atleast go with the 6800nu for the video card.
And you're going to need more ram anyways, get atleast a gig. my 768mb is showing its age with newer games.
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Wrong. I play UT2k4 at 1600x1200 with everything on hugh & AA/AF on. It runs fine & I'm not even overclocking my video card.
 
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mwmorph

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Originally posted by: Pr0d1gy
Originally posted by: Ogrt48
If you wanna play most games on high with some AF/AA I'd atleast go with the 6800nu for the video card.
And you're going to need more ram anyways, get atleast a gig. my 768mb is showing its age with newer games.
Click to expand...

Wrong. I play UT2k4 at 1600x1200 with everything on hugh & AA/AF on. It runs fine & I'm not even overclocking my video card.
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cause UT2k4 isnt demanding at all. It came out effictely came out 1 october 2003(UT2k4 an4 2k3 share the same engine, just that 2k4 has been tweaked to be even more forgiving on the gfx card)[I run 12x10 med-low on a geforce 2 ultra]

Most games he probably means the new ones just released or about to be realesed HL2(DX9), Quake4, DOOMIII, FarCry, F.E.A.R, AOE3, Stalker, etc.
 
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imported_Woody

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Originally posted by: pyrosity
Woody, just remember to get a Venice core CPU. ;) They likely won't find availability and MSRP for a little while, so if you can be patient....
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Oh I can be patient! ;-) Actually I'm running an XP 3200 system now with an X800Pro AGP. My big dilemma is that I purchased an AGP card and will probably just stick with an NF3 motherboard for my upgrade since there is no compelling reason to swap out my X800Pro (with TIVO - which I need) with an X800XL just so I can go with an NF4 PCIe motherboard. I know the XL would be faster but not by such a huge amount that it would be worth the extra cost at this time (I'm limited to ATi cards due to a certain proprietary app I run that requires ATi cards due to a compatibility bug with NVidia cards). I wanted an X800XT but it was virtually impossible to find one at the time and the XL wasn't even out yet. I'll build a PCIe system next time I need to make a more significant vid card upgrade.

chocobaR: The system you are building looks good. That Antec 480W PSU is an excellent choice (I use one myself) for that type of system and will still offer the flexibility for upgrades down the road without sacrificing stability. However I must agree with pyrosity above that the vid card is your weakest link. You mentioned that the 6600GT card is SLI enabled but this is irrelavent since your board isn't SLI capable. For about $100 more you could pick up the ATi X800XL PCIe card and almost double the overall system performance in 3D apps. This is a huge step up to spend about $1600 instead of $1500 and you will definitely notice the difference in the long run.

If you are building a gaming system don't take shortcuts on the vid card or you will regret it later. The XL will outperform even a 6800GT in almost every area and is priced so you can't resist it. If I was purchasing a new card today this is what I would go for. You could probably save about $100 on the monitor by picking up a nice used or surplus CRT.
 
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