[GameGPU.ru] In nvidia we trust - on the example of War Thunder

[ShintaiDK]

Erenhardt already did, and found that the dev was already working with Nvidia before the October 2nd blog entry.

No he didn't. And the 1.39 is quite old.

An excuse? Neither AMD nor I caused the slowdown.

But you already decided who is at fault, despite no evidence. Rather only evidence showing its not GameWorls.

The entire thread backfired on the OP and supporters due to poor research. Changing random events together

 

[DrMrLordX]

No he didn't. And the 1.39 is quite old.

April 2014. Not that old.

But you already decided who is at fault, despite no evidence. Rather only evidence showing its not GameWorls.

No, I read the thread and made conclusions on that basis. Erenhardt made a pretty good case, and the fact that the dev was working with Nvidia well prior to Oct 2nd 2015 certainly indicates that the 1.39 could have been an incremental step towards full implementation of GameWorks.

How long do you think it took them to integrate GameWorks into their existing product, anyway? It's not like they pushed the magic GameWorks button a few months ago and magically created new client software. It probably took them months, if not well over a year to get everything working right, and I expect that many of the "improvements" were patched in incrementally.

I mean, really, what else would have caused such a bias against AMD video cards? Have you ever seen anything like that where GameWorks wasn't involved? Do developers just have some uncanny knack for destroying performance on AMD's VLIW and/or GCN cards without doing anything much to Nvidia's?

The entire thread backfired on the OP and supporters due to poor research. Changing random events together

Sorry, it's not like he's been banned for spreading false information. The forumfolk haven't gotten out torches and chased him into his castle. Seems like he's doing okay, actually. There was some arguably off-topic banter about Frostbite but that was hardly a disaster.

At the end of the day, SOMETHING strange happened with that client software. GameWorks is a definite possibility. Again, if it isn't GameWorks, then what? You're the one cooking up some alternate theory explaining the changes in performance. Why don't YOU ask the developer?

 

[ShintaiDK]

So you base it all on a "could have" mentality. Super. As I said you, like Erenhardt, already decided in advance that GameWorks is to be blamed. Despite none of you can prove it. And there is roughly 1½ year in between the 2 events.

 

[gamervivek]

Hocp's review of Fury gave a very good example of it with Dying Light performance comparison vs. 980.

With everything turned up, 980 is 14% faster than Fury.

A lowered 'best quality' setting, Fury is 3% faster than 980.

All gameworks features disabled, Fury is 31% faster than 980.

http://www.hardocp.com/article/2015/07/10/asus_strix_r9_fury_dc3_video_card_review/5#.VlyIey6deZ8

 

[Despoiler]

DICE, more specifically Johan Andersson, has been a talking head for AMD for a while now. Anyone who doesn't see that should remove their head from the sand.

Johan has been beating the drum to where the industry should be going for a lot longer than AMD. He wrote the spec that became Mantle. AMD took him up on creating Mantle to show everyone how terrible the current APIs were. All of the handful of engine gurus were onboard with Johan. Of course he is going to rep AMD and vice versa. Together they got the industry to do what they want as engine designers and hardware manufcturers. It's not even remotely the same as Nvidia Gameworks, which is what small and/or technically incompetent studios use to try to make themselves seem like they are of the same caliber as the elite studios.

 

[3DVagabond]

Johan has been beating the drum to where the industry should be going for a lot longer than AMD. He wrote the spec that became Mantle. AMD took him up on creating Mantle to show everyone how terrible the current APIs were. All of the handful of engine gurus were onboard with Johan. Of course he is going to rep AMD and vice versa. Together they got the industry to do what they want as engine designers and hardware manufcturers. It's not even remotely the same as Nvidia Gameworks, which is what small and/or technically incompetent studios use to try to make themselves seem like they are of the same caliber as the elite studios.

Correct. It never ceases to amaze me how people take for granted the work that's done for everyone but think it's oh so important the stuff that's done to benefit the people who earn their livings off of us.