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Gamecube outsells XBox 2:1...
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draggoon01
Senior member
boy, you're making this painful.
in my first post which got locked, i posted US sales numbers (and please don't argue the walmart point). you responded to this by saying i made a mistake. so i clarified with post 2.
in my second post i said "no i was posting nintendo pr exaggeration of last week to disprove nintendo pr exaggeration of this week". you seem to still think this has to do with numbers. in other words, my second post goes towards credibility. as i said in title of my first post "it doesn't matter that gamecube outsold xbox..." it doesn't matter what nintendo's new claim is because they misrepresent their sales numbers for PR (as many companies do). the numbers in my first post showed that despite nintendo selling four times as much previous weekly sales (stated by nintendo in regards to US market and true), nintendo was still third and would have been a far third without the price drop. THAT WASN'T A ARGUMENT ABOUT NINTENDO'S STATEMENT NUMBERS. it was about them misrepresenting and exaggerating their success. therefore with their exaggeration of last week on the same topic of price drops, shows that there's nothing to get excited about in this week's statement on price drops. do you get it? i know the numbers are for different market. my second post acknowledged this. my second post is the short version of all i'm saying in this paragraph.
in my third post, i was annoyed at your lack of comprehension and making clear that i understood there are 2 markets being talked about. and in case you still don't understand why it's relevant, look at the paragraph above.
no that's not what i'm saying, showing you still don't get it. and i believe you meant "proven" instead of "disproven" but i'm not going to keep laboring a small point post after post after post that isn't really relevant. nintendo's number's are true, but being misrepresented. i'm pointing out nintendo's misrepresentation of last week in response to their statement this week. but hey, i'm repeating myself again because you still don't get it.
either you really have bad comprehension or you're purposely acting stupid for fun...
iwearnosox
Lifer
Oh nooes, he pulled it out of his butt?
MercenaryForHire
Lifer
All right, that's it, you dumbass. I'm sick of you moron's saying "Wah wah, it can't be done!"
Insert PSO original disc, set up your BBA for private networking using that, use the PC host to force-load the loader image, start new game in PSO, then it cheerfully redirects all DVD requests over the BBA to the PC.
You may STFU now, kthxbye.
- M4H
MercenaryForHire
Lifer
And for all of you PMing me with "how do I do it" or wanting GCMs - STOP.
- M4H
- M4H
iwearnosox
Lifer
I pictured them more of a birkenstocks crowd myself.
CZroe
Lifer
Umm, you pluralized "games" 😉 There is only one game that "requires" it and it only requires it for multiplayer (FF:CC). The justifications for the requirement were made so you can't complain about that 🙂 Unless you were referring to the upcomming Zelda: Four Swords for GC, which I suspect will be a freebie and therefore you can't complain 🙂 I think it'll either be free, or include the GBA Four Swords on a lone cart for free 🙂
Actually, because the release of a backup utility will happen any day now, hacker groups have been flooding the 'net with Gamecube releases while keeping their own utilities private. Otherwise they wouldn't get credit for them! There are definately more than 50 releases so far. There is NO special hardware required. Just a PC, GC, and BBA. The problem is that there are no development libs for the BBA, so even though you've been able to load code through it, it had to be reverse engineered to copy game data back out. It was simple enough so multiple groups are known to have their own utilities. I even have a friend in Peachtree City, GA who has one of the utilities and I have used it myself 🙂
IEatChildren
Senior member
About Gamecube piracy:
Gamecube discs are small DVDs and do not require special hardware to read them. They require special SOFTWARE, which is easily accessible. Once a game is copied onto your computer, you need Phantasy Star Online and the broadband adapter to play the games on the console.
Now I own a Gamecube and used to own an Xbox. Xbox does have some great games, but most of them fall into my "rent once" category, whereas GC has more games that I would consider buying. The one main exception was Splinter Cell, which was exclusive to Xbox when I had it.
Graphically, I find the difference between GC and Xbox quite negligible. The games look amazing on both consoles.
I'm not a fan of childish games, just like everyone else. But the GC adaptation of the Resident Evil series, plus RE Zero are very nice. Eternal Darkness was also a great game, also not quite suited for children. The GC does have fewer mature titles, but it does have its share of great games, as do all other consoles.
I still game on my SNES. Long live Tetris Attack and Mortal Kombat 2 😀
Gamecube discs are small DVDs and do not require special hardware to read them. They require special SOFTWARE, which is easily accessible. Once a game is copied onto your computer, you need Phantasy Star Online and the broadband adapter to play the games on the console.
Now I own a Gamecube and used to own an Xbox. Xbox does have some great games, but most of them fall into my "rent once" category, whereas GC has more games that I would consider buying. The one main exception was Splinter Cell, which was exclusive to Xbox when I had it.
Graphically, I find the difference between GC and Xbox quite negligible. The games look amazing on both consoles.
I'm not a fan of childish games, just like everyone else. But the GC adaptation of the Resident Evil series, plus RE Zero are very nice. Eternal Darkness was also a great game, also not quite suited for children. The GC does have fewer mature titles, but it does have its share of great games, as do all other consoles.
I still game on my SNES. Long live Tetris Attack and Mortal Kombat 2 😀
Lawrencetan21
Senior member
Do you have any Idea how much Sony made from PS1 alone?
I don't know. Anyone know? I know it's alot.
Not only they made money from selling the console they also make money from licsening their console.
GC should be beating Xbox 2:1. Just looking at the lineup should explain why. I've learned over time that most people who talk badly about the GC have never really played it. For a long time I listened to people who said the GC was kiddish and lacked any real games. Luckily I had a friend who got me interested enough in GC to read up reviews on the games and learn more about it which ultimately led to me buying one. Also, my PS2 was broken at the time and still is. I wish the PS2 hardware was more solid....because there are so many games that I still wanna play.
The funny thing is, even though people call the GC a kiddy console, it has some of the hands down hardest games of this console generation. Games such as Ikaruga (formerly DC?) and FzeroGX.
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The funny thing is, even though people call the GC a kiddy console, it has some of the hands down hardest games of this console generation. Games such as Ikaruga (formerly DC?) and FzeroGX.
Edit:
That's what happened to mine Shotgun Steve 🙁. The ability to read cdroms slowly dissapeared and now it takes forever to read DVDs. It is a shame because I really love my game collection for PS2, I've got about 25 games for it now, some that I havn't beaten and some that I want to play again. Theres also a few games sitting in my wishlist that I havn't bought yet because I don't have a working PS2 to play them on. Anyone else in this boat... did you just buy a new PS2? Did you get a later model / rev with better hardware?
FeathersMcGraw
Diamond Member
Are you kidding? Only kids can beat those thumb-killing nightmares. I'm getting too old and slow to have even a snowball's chance. 😉
Plus, you forgot to mention Viewtiful Joe.
Havn't played Viewtiful Joe yet but it is in the mail coming my way from ebgames! I didn't know it was going to be as hard as the 2 I mentioned though :\. I cannot beat most of the Fzero story missions. I think I beat 2-5 VH but got stuck on 1 VH and can't get past 6 H. Gah that game is killer difficulty.
Ichinisan
Lifer
Actually, you were correct. Piracy did not contribute to the inflated sales records, at least not for a few weeks.
Gamecube sales quadrupled after the pricecut, and BEFORE the disc loader was released. Despite the appearance, piracy is NOT the cause for these recent increased sales. It is only coincidence that the "loader" was released a couple weeks after the price cut.
GC discs cannot be read by any standard optical drive. Each disc is encrypted with proprietary Panasonic technology. The information required to decrypt game data is stored in a special barcode at the center of the disc. The existing dumps were created by sending a homebrew application to the Gamecube through the PSO backdoor. The application would read a swapped disc from beginning-to-end and transmit the data to a PC over the network connection.
TETRIS ATTACK RULES! You wanna play VS sometime? ZSNES has a great NetPlay feature 🙂
draggoon01
Senior member
read my post again
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