Game sizes are getting too big

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cmdrdredd

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The games I am playing stay on the SSD and I keep the install folder for other games I might go back to on a network drive. When I want to I just copy it back to the proper install path and go.
 

futurefields

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I bought a 3tb 7200rpm solely for Steamapps, I doubt I'll be running out of space anytime soon.

The bigger issue is with ISP's still enforcing 2005-era datacaps when they really truly should know better, what with everything going digital.
 

cmdrdredd

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I bought a 3tb 7200rpm solely for Steamapps, I doubt I'll be running out of space anytime soon.

The bigger issue is with ISP's still enforcing 2005-era datacaps when they really truly should know better, what with everything going digital.


Why I pay extra for no cap.
 

StinkyPinky

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1tb hard drive is small, man. A gamer should have a larger hard drive than that anyway.
 

futurefields

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These larger games destroy my internet data cap at 250g.

I feel there needs to be some legislation in congress done about data caps. With an infrastructure increasingly based around digital streaming of just about everything, something needs to change. This isn't the 00's anymore.
 

futurefields

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Why I pay extra for no cap.

That's your answer for everything gaming-related just throw more money at the problem. "I don't care about pc vs console I buy both, I buy everything I want yeah!" "I don't care about internet data caps, I pay extra for more!" Look man it's great you have a huge gaming budget or have dedicated a large % of your free income to gaming not everybody's life works like that.
 
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sweenish

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It's fine that other people may not have the income.

The whining is still pathetic.
 

XavierMace

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That's your answer for everything gaming-related just throw more money at the problem. "I don't care about pc vs console I buy both, I buy everything I want yeah!" "I don't care about internet data caps, I pay extra for more!" Look man it's great you have a huge gaming budget or have dedicated a large % of your free income to gaming not everybody's life works like that.

And it's fine that yours doesn't. Doesn't mean we want to hear about it every time it's an issue for you.
 

futurefields

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And it's fine that yours doesn't. Doesn't mean we want to hear about it every time it's an issue for you.

It doesn't help the situation any to simply say "pay more $$$ if you want better" instead consumers should be putting pressure in ISP's to improve their service.
 

ControlD

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It doesn't help the situation any to simply say "pay more $$$ if you want better" instead consumers should be putting pressure in ISP's to improve their service.

How do you suggest we go about doing that exactly?

For a very large number of us, there is exactly one broadband carrier we can choose from. The big providers have very little incentive to listen to the consumer, but always have incentive to listen to the stockholders.

I predict we will start seeing more data caps rather than less. The cell companies have shown the way to greater profits and broadband providers are starting to follow.
 

sweenish

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It doesn't help the situation any to simply say "pay more $$$ if you want better" instead consumers should be putting pressure in ISP's to improve their service.

And coming to this forum for a hissy fit does that?
 

SMOGZINN

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That's your answer for everything gaming-related just throw more money at the problem. "I don't care about pc vs console I buy both, I buy everything I want yeah!" "I don't care about internet data caps, I pay extra for more!" Look man it's great you have a huge gaming budget or have dedicated a large % of your free income to gaming not everybody's life works like that.

The real problem is that he probably does not have no data cap. He pays extra for 'No Data Cap' but the truth is that if he tried to use a lot of data they would cut him off anyway and claim that he is using up more then his fair share of bandwidth. That 'unlimited' is not really unlimited but just a marketing term.
 

MustISO

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Comcast isn't enforcing the cap right now but this does concern me a little when I think about downloading 3 or 4 games from steam that could be 100GB total. That's a huge portion of the soft cap Comcast has.
 

Dahak

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What happens to the 2GB when you install the patch? Does it simply replace existing code, leaving your hard drive space about the same? Or does it use 2 additional gigs of space for some stupid reason?

Usually it will be 2GB to download the file, then need 2 gb to replace the file and then at the end of it total of 2gb used.

you also don't need to have all your games installed at the same time

With the crappy internet speeds and caps that some people have not choice in getting, it makes sense to only download it once, instead of re-downloading it ever time they want to play it
 

sweenish

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What? No, you aren't contributing anything here.

And neither are you. So what are you going to do?

Honestly, I see this whole topic as dumb. Just another thing some gamer wants to complain about. Because they can never be happy with anything. And I do understand that there's a difference between wanting better and throwing hissy fits. Gamers, 99.9% of the time, throw hissy fits. This topic is a hissy fit.

If anything game sizes had stagnated over the last decade due to the previous gen of consoles. They may have surged and over-stepped now with all the uncompressed stuff they don't bother fixing for downloads.

Like all things, it will normalize. What's funny is that if the Xbox One had actually gone full digital, publishers would have been motivated to not allow so many uncompressed resources.

But apparently I have no leg to stand on. Cox has a cap, but they don't really care that much. I download what I want, when I want. Only a select couple games get the SSD. The rest go on platters. Look at me, acting all 1%.

And SSD's for games are still largely overkill. I moved Diablo 3 because of Blizzard's dumb idea to allow cooldowns to keep going during load screens. Move the game to an SSD and I can maintain Taeguk going from level to level. But DA:I? Platters. The initial load is long, but tolerable enough after that. Shooters? Platters. I actually think Diablo 3 is the only game on my SSD right now of the 40-odd I have installed across my various clients.

Those with a hard cap, should maybe take some positive action like trying to organize call-ins and bothering their ISPs instead of coming to some random gaming forum and moaning about it. Or if you're going to moan about it, at least present the complaint like an adult. And until then, I'm sure there are some work-arounds. Less than ideal, but a solution is a solution.
 

Anomaly1964

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And neither are you. So what are you going to do?

Honestly, I see this whole topic as dumb. Just another thing some gamer wants to complain about. Because they can never be happy with anything. And I do understand that there's a difference between wanting better and throwing hissy fits. Gamers, 99.9% of the time, throw hissy fits. This topic is a hissy fit.

If anything game sizes had stagnated over the last decade due to the previous gen of consoles. They may have surged and over-stepped now with all the uncompressed stuff they don't bother fixing for downloads.

Like all things, it will normalize. What's funny is that if the Xbox One had actually gone full digital, publishers would have been motivated to not allow so many uncompressed resources.

But apparently I have no leg to stand on. Cox has a cap, but they don't really care that much. I download what I want, when I want. Only a select couple games get the SSD. The rest go on platters. Look at me, acting all 1%.

And SSD's for games are still largely overkill. I moved Diablo 3 because of Blizzard's dumb idea to allow cooldowns to keep going during load screens. Move the game to an SSD and I can maintain Taeguk going from level to level. But DA:I? Platters. The initial load is long, but tolerable enough after that. Shooters? Platters. I actually think Diablo 3 is the only game on my SSD right now of the 40-odd I have installed across my various clients.

Those with a hard cap, should maybe take some positive action like trying to organize call-ins and bothering their ISPs instead of coming to some random gaming forum and moaning about it. Or if you're going to moan about it, at least present the complaint like an adult. And until then, I'm sure there are some work-arounds. Less than ideal, but a solution is a solution.

What he said, honestly PC Gamers and Comic Book fans are NEVER happy with ANYTHING...
 

bystander36

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Usually it will be 2GB to download the file, then need 2 gb to replace the file and then at the end of it total of 2gb used.



With the crappy internet speeds and caps that some people have not choice in getting, it makes sense to only download it once, instead of re-downloading it ever time they want to play it

Steam has a handy backup tool so you can store them away when not in use and not have to do a full download the next time you install it.
 

bystander36

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Apr 1, 2013
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And neither are you. So what are you going to do?

Honestly, I see this whole topic as dumb. Just another thing some gamer wants to complain about. Because they can never be happy with anything. And I do understand that there's a difference between wanting better and throwing hissy fits. Gamers, 99.9% of the time, throw hissy fits. This topic is a hissy fit.

If anything game sizes had stagnated over the last decade due to the previous gen of consoles. They may have surged and over-stepped now with all the uncompressed stuff they don't bother fixing for downloads.

Like all things, it will normalize. What's funny is that if the Xbox One had actually gone full digital, publishers would have been motivated to not allow so many uncompressed resources.

But apparently I have no leg to stand on. Cox has a cap, but they don't really care that much. I download what I want, when I want. Only a select couple games get the SSD. The rest go on platters. Look at me, acting all 1%.

And SSD's for games are still largely overkill. I moved Diablo 3 because of Blizzard's dumb idea to allow cooldowns to keep going during load screens. Move the game to an SSD and I can maintain Taeguk going from level to level. But DA:I? Platters. The initial load is long, but tolerable enough after that. Shooters? Platters. I actually think Diablo 3 is the only game on my SSD right now of the 40-odd I have installed across my various clients.

Those with a hard cap, should maybe take some positive action like trying to organize call-ins and bothering their ISPs instead of coming to some random gaming forum and moaning about it. Or if you're going to moan about it, at least present the complaint like an adult. And until then, I'm sure there are some work-arounds. Less than ideal, but a solution is a solution.

The question I have, as someone who isn't having issues with it, but can see the other side of the coin for those with poor ISP's, is are the downloads from Steam compressed? It doesn't really matter if the local files are compressed or not, it's the download from Steam or Origin that matters.
 

norseamd

Lifer
Dec 13, 2013
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The real problem is that he probably does not have no data cap. He pays extra for 'No Data Cap' but the truth is that if he tried to use a lot of data they would cut him off anyway and claim that he is using up more then his fair share of bandwidth. That 'unlimited' is not really unlimited but just a marketing term.

This. For most companies it is the real truth. Have not had any problems with Centurylink yet however.