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Game 5: Lakers vs. Suns

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Originally posted by: NYHoustonman
Originally posted by: lederhosen
Originally posted by: Sheepathon
Kobe got kicked, but he won't be suspended for the next game, unlike Bell.
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Are you psychic now?
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With all due respect, as I said, with the suspensions to Haslem and Artest, this should easily warrant a game or so.
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If Bell doesn't get suspended its a conspiracy. Artest and Posey should immediately have the NBA PA appeal the fine again if they haven't already done so, if clotheslines doesn't constitute a suspension and fine why should an elbow and semi-tackle.

all haslem did was throw is mouth piece. in the direction of the ref.
 
Yeah I think a grab around the neck warrants a suspension.Thats good news for the Laker than cause Kobe's going go effing crazy on the Suns come game 6.
 
I liked Bell's comments to the press just a second ago... Yea, we can all agree he made a mistake, but it's nice that he was honest there, and apologetic. From half the players in the NBA you might expect just the opposite.
 
/watchin the TNT crew

Bell shoudn't be suspended cuz Phil wants him in the next game. 🙂



lol did ernie just say "Pacers and nuts" after commenting the kaman incident?

 
Originally posted by: lederhosen
Originally posted by: Sheepathon
Kobe got kicked, but he won't be suspended for the next game, unlike Bell.
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Are you psychic now?
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eh you probably don't follow the nba much. The things posley and artest did wasn't even close to that wrestling move. Bell will be gone for 1 game minimum.
 
Let's go over the Bell clothesline shall we?

1.) Did not go for the ball in any way, shape or form
2.) Clotheslined Kobe Bryant, could have potentially hurt him very badly
3.) Pushed him down to the ground with his other hand
4.) Bye bye Bell

He single-handedly just cost the Suns the series. They fired the Lakers up, and now with Bell out Kobe can play a much more relaxed game without the intense defensive pressure. I think everyone here knew the Suns were going to come out and win game 6, they had been shooting atrociously the past 3 games so they we definitely due for a big offensive effort.
 
As a Suns fan I agree that based on the play alone Bell should be suspended. HOWEVER, by doing that the NBA will open up a can of worms. They suspended players for much less, but they didn't suspend Luke Walton for his foul on Tim Thomas, which was a hard foul while Tim Thomas was IN THE AIR. That is one of the most dangerous plays in the game. If Tim Thomas doesn't adjust himself and fall on his butt, he could have had a broken wrist or worse. Of course, Tim Thomas isn't Kobe Bryant, so we'll see what happens.

If Bell is suspended, I don't think it necessarily costs the Suns the series. If Kobe Bryant "goes off" meaning he tries to win the game himself, perhaps that takes away from what the Lakers have been doing all series. Kobe went for 42 a game against the Suns during the season and went 1-3. Bell is our best defender, but he can't stop Kobe. Kobe hasn't been scoring much because he doesn't want to. If he decides he wants to with Bell out, then perhaps it hurts the Lakers.

But yes, the play by itself is worthy of a suspension IMO. However, I think Walton should've been suspended for his foul on Tim Thomas while he was in the air. Kwame Brown should've been fined for his foul on Diaw and his subsequent taunting.
 
Originally posted by: Sudheer Anne
Originally posted by: Azndude2190
Originally posted by: tfinch2
Raja Bell deserves a medal.
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Yeah...

For Idiocy
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QFT, he just cost the Suns the game. He won't be there to guard Kobe and he just gave the Lakers a huge boost emotionally.
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You could look at it that way. However, him not being there to guard Kobe isn't a huge deal IMO. When Kobe was looking for his shot against the Suns in the regular season, he averaged 42 ppg on bell without a problem. The question is, if the Suns don't have bell, does Kobe try to exploit it? Also, does that force the Lakers out of their gameplan? James Jones is a capable defender, as is Marion. Neither of them can guard Kobe of course, but neither could bell. The Suns will miss Bell if he's suspended because he's a good player and the Suns (with all their injuries) are lacking depth. I don't think this necessarily costs them a game though.
 
Originally posted by: mribnik1
Originally posted by: Sudheer Anne
Originally posted by: Azndude2190
Originally posted by: tfinch2
Raja Bell deserves a medal.
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Yeah...

For Idiocy
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QFT, he just cost the Suns the game. He won't be there to guard Kobe and he just gave the Lakers a huge boost emotionally.
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You could look at it that way. However, him not being there to guard Kobe isn't a huge deal IMO. When Kobe was looking for his shot against the Suns in the regular season, he averaged 42 ppg on bell without a problem. The question is, if the Suns don't have bell, does Kobe try to exploit it? Also, does that force the Lakers out of their gameplan? James Jones is a capable defender, as is Marion. Neither of them can guard Kobe of course, but neither could bell. The Suns will miss Bell if he's suspended because he's a good player and the Suns (with all their injuries) are lacking depth. I don't think this necessarily costs them a game though.
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Do you know how much the Lakers are emotionally drived now to close out in game 6?And at any rate I dont want Bell to be suspeneded anyway...so when we win game 6 there wont be any excuses as to why we will slaughter the PHX suns.
 
Originally posted by: mribnik1
Kwame didn't get a suspension for this. That was right to Diaw's neck as well.
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He was under his armpit, not neck, and it was a strong push with his arm, not an elbow shot.

If anyones watched the other playoff games, Bell WILL be suspended. Posey's shot at heinrich got him 1 game and it wasn't 1/2 as bad imo. 'Premeditated' paybacks are absolutely not tolerated this year, specifically ones as aggregious as that.

Its too bad for the sun's other players and fans to lose having a chance in a series because of one player. Even as close to the edge as Rodman played, he was never as stupid in a playoff game as bell was last night (not with chicago that is).

 
Bell will probably get suspended 1 game, but his foul was no worse then Walton's. I agree with what Mourning said about it. He said there is a double standard in the NBA since Posey got 1 game and Walton got nothing. I totally agree. There is no doubt the NBA wants the Lakers to move one. The Lakers moving on means better ratings. It's a shame it works that way, but it does.
 
Well, with walton it was clear he was just trying to stop the guy from scoring. With bell it was clear he had malicious intent. I don't see why that would be a double standard. If you are intending to harm someone and not just overly physical on a foul, surely that should be more likely to garner a suspension.
 
Walton's foul was a 'no layup' foul, and not a dangerous clothesline foul. It also was not an out-of-the-blue payback foul, it was simply a statement. In other words, it was well within the competitiveness of a playoff game, and has nothing to do with bell's clothesline.
 
Originally posted by: Slap
Bell will probably get suspended 1 game, but his foul was no worse then Walton's. I agree with what Mourning said about it. He said there is a double standard in the NBA since Posey got 1 game and Walton got nothing. I totally agree. There is no doubt the NBA wants the Lakers to move one. The Lakers moving on means better ratings. It's a shame it works that way, but it does.
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are you kidding?

posey cross checked a guy from the blindside.

the NBA would love for Shaq and Wade to make it just as much as Kobe, so your theory is crap.
 
Originally posted by: iamme
Originally posted by: Slap
Bell will probably get suspended 1 game, but his foul was no worse then Walton's. I agree with what Mourning said about it. He said there is a double standard in the NBA since Posey got 1 game and Walton got nothing. I totally agree. There is no doubt the NBA wants the Lakers to move one. The Lakers moving on means better ratings. It's a shame it works that way, but it does.
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are you kidding?

posey cross checked a guy from the blindside.

the NBA would love for Shaq and Wade to make it just as much as Kobe, so your theory is crap.
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Don't get me wrong, Posey deserved what he got. But in terms of how malicious a shoulder check is vs. a clothesline, it doesn't compare. A clothesline as well as throwing the player down is practically equivalent to a punch imo.


 
Originally posted by: jjsole
Originally posted by: iamme
Originally posted by: Slap
Bell will probably get suspended 1 game, but his foul was no worse then Walton's. I agree with what Mourning said about it. He said there is a double standard in the NBA since Posey got 1 game and Walton got nothing. I totally agree. There is no doubt the NBA wants the Lakers to move one. The Lakers moving on means better ratings. It's a shame it works that way, but it does.
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are you kidding?

posey cross checked a guy from the blindside.

the NBA would love for Shaq and Wade to make it just as much as Kobe, so your theory is crap.
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Don't get me wrong, Posey deserved what he got. But in terms of how malicious a shoulder check is vs. a clothesline, it doesn't compare. A clothesline and throwing the player down is practically equivalent to a punch imo.
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eh, a blindside check while you're going full speed in basketball (w/ no pads) can be just as dangerous.

regardless, i think it's horsesh1t to think that the Lakers are getting special treatment over the Heat. the NBA would love to market Wade just as much, if not more, than Kobe (in lieu of Kobe's checkered past).
 
Originally posted by: jjsole
Originally posted by: mribnik1
Kwame didn't get a suspension for this. That was right to Diaw's neck as well.
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He was under his armpit, not neck, and it was a strong push with his arm, not an elbow shot.

If anyones watched the other playoff games, Bell WILL be suspended. Posey's shot at heinrich got him 1 game and it wasn't 1/2 as bad imo. 'Premeditated' paybacks are absolutely not tolerated this year, specifically ones as aggregious as that.

Its too bad for the sun's other players and fans to lose having a chance in a series because of one player. Even as close to the edge as Rodman played, he was never as stupid in a playoff game as bell was last night (not with chicago that is).
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How will the Sun's not have a chance w/out Bell? Are you joking? Yeah they'll miss him, but you act like the series is over if he's gone when that is far from the case. Also, it hasn't been decided whether Bell will be suspended or not so it's all just premature spitting.
 
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