Gallup: half of conservatives upbeat on Obama Presidency

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Fear No Evil

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Well I am a conservative and I am all for Hope and Change. I hope that we do have change that restores the hope of people all around this great country that true change can occur when we truly hope that change can occur. Hopefully this change will be becoming soon otherwise the hope for this true change may turn to hopelessness.

(Puts his hand out): Where's my check?
 

rudeguy

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I am a 30 year old registered republican. I did not vote for Obama.

I do hope that he really can bring about all the change he talked about. I would love to see the country turn around and become great again. I don't think you could find a single person regardless of their age or political orientation that would say the country is at a high point. The Dems are in complete control now, let's see how things pan out.
 

Fear No Evil

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Originally posted by: rudeguy
I am a 30 year old registered republican. I did not vote for Obama.

I do hope that he really can bring about all the change he talked about. I would love to see the country turn around and become great again. I don't think you could find a single person regardless of their age or political orientation that would say the country is at a high point. The Dems are in complete control now, let's see how things pan out.

The country is STILL great..
 

rudeguy

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Originally posted by: Fear No Evil
Originally posted by: rudeguy
I am a 30 year old registered republican. I did not vote for Obama.

I do hope that he really can bring about all the change he talked about. I would love to see the country turn around and become great again. I don't think you could find a single person regardless of their age or political orientation that would say the country is at a high point. The Dems are in complete control now, let's see how things pan out.

The country is STILL great..

There are many who would debate that.
 

manowar821

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Originally posted by: spidey07
Most presidents do when they come in, look at Bush's early approval ratings. And as a whole conservatives are much more optimistic with their outlook on life.

Yeah whatever.
 

Insomniator

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How one can call themselves conservative and vote for Obama is beyond my understanding.

I mean I'm not saying I support Obama or not, but the only reason to vote for him *as a conservative* is if you
think he'll fuck up and make it easy in 2012.

The change he is bringing, besides world respect for our leader (for now), is going to be 100% liberal.
 

Vic

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Originally posted by: Insomniator
How one can call themselves conservative and vote for Obama is beyond my understanding.

I mean I'm not saying I support Obama or not, but the only reason to vote for him *as a conservative* is if you
think he'll fuck up and make it easy in 2012.

The change he is bringing, besides world respect for our leader (for now), is going to be 100% liberal.

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BrownTown

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Well I'm sure not very optimistic, its not just the fact that he is so liberal, its also the fact that he is 100% a used car salesman. Every single word that comes out of his mouth is just a sweet political nothing trying to win people over without ever stating his true beliefs. AT least with Bush you knew what he was thinking (even though it was usually pretty idiotic), I really can't feel hopeful about a guy if I don't trust him at all as is the case with Obama.
 

Double Trouble

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Originally posted by: BrownTown
Well I'm sure not very optimistic, its not just the fact that he is so liberal, its also the fact that he is 100% a used car salesman. Every single word that comes out of his mouth is just a sweet political nothing trying to win people over without ever stating his true beliefs. AT least with Bush you knew what he was thinking (even though it was usually pretty idiotic), I really can't feel hopeful about a guy if I don't trust him at all as is the case with Obama.

Agreed 100%. His ability to lie convincingly along with a media unwilling to subject him to scrutiny or take him to task and a democratic controlled congress make for a dangerous situation. Hech, even if he screws things up royally, odds are he'll convince much of the population that it's not screwed up, and the media will help him do it.
 

Descartes

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Originally posted by: BrownTown
Well I'm sure not very optimistic, its not just the fact that he is so liberal, its also the fact that he is 100% a used car salesman. Every single word that comes out of his mouth is just a sweet political nothing trying to win people over without ever stating his true beliefs. AT least with Bush you knew what he was thinking (even though it was usually pretty idiotic), I really can't feel hopeful about a guy if I don't trust him at all as is the case with Obama.

I hear this accusation levied to Obama all the time, and I still can't understand it. To me, his positions are exceedingly clear. He does speak in a more abstract manner at times, but I still have no problem understanding his positions. His website, books, speeches, etc. should be more than enough.

And I think the reason it was so easy to understand Bush is because he communicated at such a sophomoric level. That may be something people find appealing, but he never communicated any higher ideas befitting the presidency, in my opinion.

I guess you can't appeal to everyone. Some people like the way someone like Palin communicates to them, and some will prefer a more abstract Obama.
 

tenthumbs

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Any "conversation" about Obama and his abilities as a president is at least two years too early. The gloating of the Dems and the sour grapes of the Repubs is really detrimental to any progress necessary for the change that Obama has promised. I'm with the "we'll see" crowd and I hope Obama follows through. In the meantime, my energy is focused on being positive and acting like an adult. Not much of that in this forum...
 

BrownTown

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Originally posted by: Descartes
Originally posted by: BrownTown
Well I'm sure not very optimistic, its not just the fact that he is so liberal, its also the fact that he is 100% a used car salesman. Every single word that comes out of his mouth is just a sweet political nothing trying to win people over without ever stating his true beliefs. AT least with Bush you knew what he was thinking (even though it was usually pretty idiotic), I really can't feel hopeful about a guy if I don't trust him at all as is the case with Obama.

I hear this accusation levied to Obama all the time, and I still can't understand it. To me, his positions are exceedingly clear. He does speak in a more abstract manner at times, but I still have no problem understanding his positions. His website, books, speeches, etc. should be more than enough.

And I think the reason it was so easy to understand Bush is because he communicated at such a sophomoric level. That may be something people find appealing, but he never communicated any higher ideas befitting the presidency, in my opinion.

I guess you can't appeal to everyone. Some people like the way someone like Palin communicates to them, and some will prefer a more abstract Obama.

OK, it shouldn't be too hard to test this one, just write down somewhere what you think Obama stands for right now, then see what actually happens during his presidency and I would guess they will be VERY different. Not to mention the fact that he wants to basically cut taxes, reduce the defecit, and increase spending at the same time, basic math just doesnt support that, but most people are apparently too dumb to do the addition there.
 

Polish3d

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Originally posted by: tenthumbs
Any "conversation" about Obama and his abilities as a president is at least two years too early. The gloating of the Dems and the sour grapes of the Repubs is really detrimental to any progress necessary for the change that Obama has promised. I'm with the "we'll see" crowd and I hope Obama follows through. In the meantime, my energy is focused on being positive and acting like an adult. Not much of that in this forum...


Good points
 

Mani

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Good to know at least half of conservatives do not lack common sense.
 

BrownTown

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Originally posted by: Mani
Good to know at least half of conservatives do not lack common sense.

or more like that 3/4 of the country DOES lack common sense.

The real telling thing for me is the fact that almost 40% of the people in this country don't even pay taxes and they fall VASTLY in favor of Obama. sorta tells you something when the people that contribute nothing to society all love and most the people who are actually productive citizens despise you.

But anyways, WTF is the point arguing here now, we'll just wait a year and then see how much of the country likes him (especially the working class)
 

Jhhnn

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Originally posted by: BrownTown
Originally posted by: Mani
Good to know at least half of conservatives do not lack common sense.

or more like that 3/4 of the country DOES lack common sense.

The real telling thing for me is the fact that almost 40% of the people in this country don't even pay taxes and they fall VASTLY in favor of Obama. sorta tells you something when the people that contribute nothing to society all love and most the people who are actually productive citizens despise you.

But anyways, WTF is the point arguing here now, we'll just wait a year and then see how much of the country likes him (especially the working class)

How dim. The 40% figure you pulled out of your ass is meaningless, particularly considering those people pay all kinds of taxes, just not federal income tax...

Total taxation is the real determinant because it doesn't matter where it goes, but rather that it all comes out of our pockets...