Egads you are ignorant of historical facts. Next you'll be telling us Chris Columbus was a swell guy and Washington threw a silver dollar across the Potomac with one hand while coping down a cherry tree with the other. At least make some attempt at understanding. Hint, it was douchbaggery which caused his problems. Bush was more politic.
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As its you hayabusa that is citing totally bogus proof. As I never said anything about Columbis or George Washington one way or the other. As its your argument that seems to boil down to pure douchbaggery by asserting other contentions totally unrelated to the original Galileo argument.
As I might cite a more modern variant of that very Galileo type argument. Because in the 2012 Presidential debates. Obama is widely credited as losing his first debate with Mitt Romney simply because Obama was too polite and did not confront Romney bullshit forcefully enough. A mistake the democrats did not repeat in the next three debates as they confronted any bogus GOP statements as soon as they were uttered. Instead of playing Mr. Nice guy turn the other cheek like Obama did in debate 1.
As you, Hayabasusa seeming asserted, that if Galileo had been more of a Mr. Nice Guy, Catholic dogma would have instantly ended. As earth to Hayabusa, it seldom works that way, then or now.
But still, if we want to go back to what Galileo had to disprove the Ptolemy model of a Earth Centered Universe was not totally compelling. Nor was the Ptolemy model of an earth centered Universe originally was not based on scriptures.
As, IMHO, the Ptolemy model is somewhat a monument to human ingenuity in how close one can get to predicting planetary motions with a totally flawed initial theory and the additions of a fudge factor. As that single fudge factor in epicycles suddenly allowed an earth centered Universe to correctly account for the observed retrograde motion of the planets. And with remarkable accuracy as Ptolemy had by trial and error had found the sizes of the wheels within wheels relative diameters that would account for the known planetary motions.
And at the time, what did Galileo have in his corner to challenge the earth centered Universe theory. As a sun centered solar system automatically struck hard at church scriptures and the old testament dogma's regarding God's Creation of the Universe. As a Sun centered Universe was bound to draw church fire and it did. And in the other corner all Galileo had was a crude telescope, that at best poked a hole in the Ptolemy contention that our planets were perfect crystalline spheres. And instead Saturn had rings and Jupiter had a bunch of little dots moving ahead and behind it. But at the time, it was somewhat a giant leap of faith, for Galileo to assert that the sun is the center our planets move around just as Jupiter's moons move around it.
We know know Galileo deduction of an sun centered Universe was correct but the iron clad proof came later. But meanwhile there4 was a long period where the church scriputed up and asserted anyone who looked into a telescope was being fooled by the devil. The real first argument of a scoundrels. Which basically resulted in the real questions Galileo raised never being properly addressed by the church. As the church won a temporary moral victory in forcing Galileo to recant. But better evidence by Galileo followers won in the end.
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