Galaxy tab price fail

[Pliablemoose]

I agree with Q, It gets really old when you're relying on a developer to make an OS work well.

iOS is a more refined platform, Android is getting better, but I really wish Google would do what MS has done for decades, buy up the company or hire the developer that makes a good program for it's software.

I'd love to see some of the XDA dev's hired by Google to polish up Android.

 

[QueBert]

I agree with Q, It gets really old when you're relying on a developer to make an OS work well.

iOS is a more refined platform, Android is getting better, but I really wish Google would do what MS has done for decades, buy up the company or hire the developer that makes a good program for it's software.

I'd love to see some of the XDA dev's hired by Google to polish up Android.

YEEEEES!!! Or they could hire Black Droid, his UD8 looks awesome, and I bet he could make a UI that doesn't make me want to throw my phone out the window. Here's the thing, Google doesn't need every app to look uber bad ass, but it would be nice to have 1 in whatever category I'm looking for look like a real company made it. Hell they should hire the company that made ConvertBot to make Android apps.

another app made by them called PasteBot http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6pG3AchwUuk And the thing about both Convert/PasteBot they don't just look sweet, they're also super functional.

 

[preslove]

Who the hell cares what a unit converter looks like? Does it work well? Yes? GREAT?

Meanwhile, everyone at Engadget constantly complains on their podcasts that Apple's notification popups are horrendous and wish that they would adopt something similar to Android or Web OS's nitification.

UI polish, my ass.

 

[zerocool84]

Who the hell cares what a unit converter looks like? Does it work well? Yes? GREAT?

Meanwhile, everyone at Engadget constantly complains on their podcasts that Apple's notification popups are horrendous and wish that they would adopt something similar to Android or Web OS's nitification.

UI polish, my ass.

Switching between screens and loading up apps is what everyone is talking about. iOS's notification system feels like it's from the stone-age still but that's why they got the WebOS notification guy so NEXT year they can release it as the greatest thing since sliced bread.

 

[QueBert]

Who the hell cares what a unit converter looks like? Does it work well? Yes? GREAT?

Meanwhile, everyone at Engadget constantly complains on their podcasts that Apple's notification popups are horrendous and wish that they would adopt something similar to Android or Web OS's nitification.

UI polish, my ass.

If people didn't care about what an app looked like we wouldn't have Aero in Windows 7, it's nothing but eye candy. People must care about what it looks like because ConvertBot outsells all other conversion apps by a huge margin. Of course since you don't care that means nobody does right? Wrong! You might not care but if you showed 1,000 people ConvertBot on the iPhone and whatever conversion app on Android I'll bet money 90%+ will take ConvertBot. I'm not talking iOS vs Android as an OS here, I'm talking apps by 3rd party programmers.

 

[preslove]

Switching between screens and loading up apps is what everyone is talking about. iOS's notification system feels like it's from the stone-age still but that's why they got the WebOS notification guy so NEXT year they can release it as the greatest thing since sliced bread.

Quebert is on his never ending, stupid rant that all android apps look like shit.

If people didn't care about what an app looked like we wouldn't have Aero in Windows 7, it's nothing but eye candy. People must care about what it looks like because ConvertBot outsells all other conversion apps by a huge margin. Of course since you don't care that means nobody does right? Wrong! You might not care but if you showed 1,000 people ConvertBot on the iPhone and whatever conversion app on Android I'll bet money 90%+ will take ConvertBot. I'm not talking iOS vs Android as an OS here, I'm talking apps by 3rd party programmers.

"Refined UI" = the OS.

Given Apple's PATHETIC, AWFUL notification system, saying that it is more refined is moronic.

 

[QueBert]

Quebert is on his never ending, stupid rant that all android apps look like shit.





"Refined UI" = the OS.

Given Apple's PATHETIC, AWFUL notification system, saying that it is more refined is moronic.

Again I NEVER said iOS was more refined looking, have you not been paying attention? I've said uhhh, I dunno about 10 times I'm talking about APPS here not the damn OS. And no not all Android apps look bad, a few are very nice, but the majority are butt ugly UI wise and have no style. People like style, why do you think HTC's Sense is so popular? It add's no functionality to an Android phone, it just does what the others already do but in a much more visually appealing way. It's so appealing even it's been hacked to run on non HTC devices, and thousands of people are currently using it. At the expense of their camera, bluetooth and 3g data/3g calling all no longer working.

 

[MrX8503]

Who the hell cares what a unit converter looks like? Does it work well? Yes? GREAT?

Meanwhile, everyone at Engadget constantly complains on their podcasts that Apple's notification popups are horrendous and wish that they would adopt something similar to Android or Web OS's nitification.

UI polish, my ass.

Notification system is only one thing. There's about 10,000 little things all over the place on the Android platform that is ugly/unpolished/clunky.

 

[zerocool84]

Notification system is only one thing. There's about 10,000 little things all over the place on the Android platform that is ugly/unpolished/clunky.

Only thing? iOS has many things wrong with it just like Android has many things wrong with it. There are valid complaints with the OS on both platforms.

 

[MrX8503]

Only thing? iOS has many things wrong with it just like Android has many things wrong with it. There are valid complaints with the OS on both platforms.

Well I exaggerated, but you know what I mean. Both has problems, but Android is no where near as polished.

 

[zerocool84]

Well I exaggerated, but you know what I mean. Both has problems, but Android is no where near as polished.

Oh of course but that gets better with every update. I'm sure both camps are looking to see what 3.0 Gingerbread brings.

 

[preslove]

Notification system is only one thing. There's about 10,000 little things all over the place on the Android platform that is ugly/unpolished/clunky.

Must be tasty cool aid, fanboy.

 

[MrX8503]

Must be tasty cool aid, fanboy.

Go read the iOS SDK and the Android SDK then come back and talk.

 

[Pliablemoose]

http://mobile-broadband.t-mobile.com/tablets/Samsung-galaxy-tab

TMobile lit up an info page today on the Tab...

 

[rudeguy]

wait....7"? I thought it was going to be 10"

And its still supposed to be $1k?

FAIL

 

[s44]

wait....7"? I thought it was going to be 10"

Wrong.

And its still supposed to be $1k?

Wrong. Unless you live in Australia.

 

[randomlinh]

Wrong.

not entirely, samsung said they were looking to introduce a larger version in the future, didn't they?

 

[Pliablemoose]

http://www.boygeniusreport.com/2010...ab-launching-november-14th-on-sprint-for-399/

Looks like $399 with a 2 year data contract on Sprint, no word on the data contact price.

$559 no contract.

 

[kaerflog]

http://www.boygeniusreport.com/2010...ab-launching-november-14th-on-sprint-for-399/

Looks like $399 with a 2 year data contract on Sprint, no word on the data contact price.

$559 no contract.

LOL, same thing on T-Mobile.
This has failed all over it.
No freakin way anyone buying this for $399 and be binded in a 2yr contract.
The $399 will fall really fast when the stocks aren't moving.

 

[Narmer]

LOL, same thing on T-Mobile.
This has failed all over it.
No freakin way anyone buying this for $399 and be binded in a 2yr contract.
The $399 will fall really fast when the stocks aren't moving.

Right. I don't think Samsung did their homework when it comes to how and where Apple's iPad is used. As with most of their products, Galaxy Tab is just a 'me-too' product that's riding the coattails of more successful predecessors. Also, with them trying to be on all carriers, I doubt they will get any exclusive contracts like Apple got from AT&T wrt the iPad.

 

[theeedude]

All depends on how much the data contract is per month. Carriers are aware of iPad device and plan pricing, so I doubt it will end up too far out of line, though they may try to fleece early adopters.

 

[AstroManLuca]

They need to be able to at least match AT&T's $15 250MB plan. And even if they do, it still won't be as good because the iPad doesn't require a contract. You can buy a 3G iPad and use the data only when you want it. That's a potentially huge savings. Compare:

iPad 3G, $630 + $15/$25 per month whenever you need data
Samsung Galaxy Tab, $400 + $15/mo for two years

I'll be nice to Samsung and just assume they'll have a $15/mo data plan, which they might not (maybe not on all carriers). That would add $360 to the price, guaranteed. So you're looking at $760 over two years. Ends up costing the same as an iPad 3G with 9 months of $15 service. So it would only save you money if you have data service with the iPad all the time, and also, it's got a smaller screen.

In other words, the Galaxy Tab is going to AT BEST match the iPad on long-term pricing, when it really had to beat it. And again, that's assuming they even have a $15 data plan available. A $20-$30 required plan would kill it.

 

[rudeguy]

They need to be able to at least match AT&T's $15 250MB plan. And even if they do, it still won't be as good because the iPad doesn't require a contract. You can buy a 3G iPad and use the data only when you want it. That's a potentially huge savings. Compare:

iPad 3G, $630 + $15/$25 per month whenever you need data
Samsung Galaxy Tab, $400 + $15/mo for two years

I'll be nice to Samsung and just assume they'll have a $15/mo data plan, which they might not (maybe not on all carriers). That would add $360 to the price, guaranteed. So you're looking at $760 over two years. Ends up costing the same as an iPad 3G with 9 months of $15 service. So it would only save you money if you have data service with the iPad all the time, and also, it's got a smaller screen.

In other words, the Galaxy Tab is going to AT BEST match the iPad on long-term pricing, when it really had to beat it. And again, that's assuming they even have a $15 data plan available. A $20-$30 required plan would kill it.

This thing is going to fail..and fail big time. The bad part is that others may see it as a tablet fail instead of a Samsung fail

 

[Pliablemoose]

They need to be able to at least match AT&T's $15 250MB plan. And even if they do, it still won't be as good because the iPad doesn't require a contract. You can buy a 3G iPad and use the data only when you want it. That's a potentially huge savings. Compare:

iPad 3G, $630 + $15/$25 per month whenever you need data
Samsung Galaxy Tab, $400 + $15/mo for two years

I'll be nice to Samsung and just assume they'll have a $15/mo data plan, which they might not (maybe not on all carriers). That would add $360 to the price, guaranteed. So you're looking at $760 over two years. Ends up costing the same as an iPad 3G with 9 months of $15 service. So it would only save you money if you have data service with the iPad all the time, and also, it's got a smaller screen.

In other words, the Galaxy Tab is going to AT BEST match the iPad on long-term pricing, when it really had to beat it. And again, that's assuming they even have a $15 data plan available. A $20-$30 required plan would kill it.

AT&T's $15-$25 data plan is an unsubsidized price data plan, there's no way the data plans for the Tab will be this cheap.

I suspect a $30 plan will be the minimum data plan and that's tiered, not unlimited...

 

[Fingolfin269]

I'm going to wait for plan pricing before declaring failure. I already have an 'Everything' plan with Sprint so I will be interested to see how this will fall into line for those who are already customers.