Galaxy Note 10.1 Review from AP: Shameful garbage

[Zaap]

Only an idiot would even think it sounds like an intel jingle ripoff. my god. What else will haters come up with?

Not only doesn't it sound anything like Intel's theme, it's just some random piece of music that some advertising agency used. The very next commercial is totally different. Like the brass at Samsung or any major corporation sits down and creates the commercials for their products themselves! "Hey, let's copy Intel!"

Sheesh.

I bet the 10.1 actually comes in a box, with *gasp!* product labeling printed on it! OMG! We all know who they must have copied that from!

 

[Suspicious-Teach8788]

Not only doesn't it sound anything like Intel's theme, it's just some random piece of music that some advertising agency used. The very next commercial is totally different. Like the brass at Samsung or any major corporation sits down and creates the commercials for their products themselves! "Hey, let's copy Intel!"

Sheesh.

I bet the 10.1 actually comes in a box, with *gasp!* product labeling printed on it! OMG! We all know who they must have copied that from!

This is getting old. I know where you're getting this from and this has nothing to do with Apple copyrighting boxes or something. It has to do with imitation.

 

[Zaap]

This is getting old. I know where you're getting this from and this has nothing to do with Apple copyrighting boxes or something. It has to do with imitation.

No what's getting old is some people insisting everything Samsung does is imitation, when clearly it isn't, this just being the latest example.

The box example was another, someone tried to claim Samsung copied Apple with the SGS3 box. (Total falsehood- the box is NOTHING like anything from Apple).

So stop acting ignorant, it doesn't fly.

 

[Suspicious-Teach8788]

No what's getting old is some people insisting everything Samsung does is imitation, when clearly it isn't, this just being the latest example.

The box example was another, someone tried to claim Samsung copied Apple with the SGS3 box. (Total falsehood- the box is NOTHING like anything from Apple).

So stop acting ignorant, it doesn't fly.

The exact words were:

I couldn't help but notice how closely the box itself resembles the iPhone 4S box

In further clarification

Look at how cell phones came in boxes before the iPhone and look at how cell phones came in boxes after the iPhone.

I don't think anyone thinks the SGS3 box is a COPY PASTE execution. It RESEMBLES the iPhone. Notice how no one also said that the SGS3 is the only example.

You love taking people's words out of context, putting more words in their mouths and twisting it to suit your case. In an attempt to be unbiased, I have to say that people HAVE tried to move to iPhone-style packaging. It's all about a little slender box now barely the size of the phone.

Look at how boxes before everyone had the "omg the iPhone is doing so well, let's try to come out with something similar" approach:

HTC Touch Diamond: http://www.realgeek.com/htc-touch-diamond-hands-on-review/
Nokia N82: http://www.allaboutsymbian.com/news/item/7061_Unboxing_the_Black_Nokia_N82.php

Look, there's a lot of aspects I can think of manufacturers imitating Apple. Whether or not they are guilty of copyright infringement or out right copy-pasting is not what I'm trying to get at.

- Post iPhone, Nokia tried a piss poor execution of S60v5 with a touch interface.
- Android moved to start utilizing multitouch after seeing how cool pinch zoom is.
- The industry moved to capacitive away from resistive.
- Slide to unlock? Blatant rip
- Lockscreen shortcuts, especially a quick camera action now that iOS made that popular.
- Now that the iPhone 4S made camera speed a huge factor, HTC made it a point with the One X that you can shoot high speed and little shutter lag. Sony made those points a feature too and the SGS3 also. Now look at the SGS2, and HTC Sensation. The SGS2 has the same camera as the SGS3, yet they make it a point all of a sudden to have all these new camera software features.

What I'm basically saying is that Apple has been a trendsetter in many aspects of smartphone use. I'd argue that other manufacturers view Apple as trendsetting and thus are also trying to buck the trend by using a similar execution method.

Maybe you love twisting that into Apple copying rectangles and boxes, but how about you use a little brain and understand that the argument people have been making is more about resemblance and what not.

Anyhow, back to the 10.1, I think the Tab was a well designed product, but this just looks like ass. If it means they have to "copy" the iPad, go for it. Many people on this board seem to think Samsung has a good chance in court, yet Samsung's playing defensive here.

 

[Zaap]

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I don't think anyone thinks the SGS3 box is a COPY PASTE execution. It RESEMBLES the iPhone.

Now you're just continuing with the stupidity because you were caught smokescreening.

The SGS3 box does not in any way, shape, matter or form resemble the iPhone 4 box. Not even slightly.

It just proves how you'll make things up- or side with people that make things up because they're making them up about Samsung- and run with it without checking your facts.

Go ahead. Show me how in any way the SGS3 box resembles the iPhone 4 box. I dare you.

Or are you really part of the stupidity that thinks Samsung just putting a product in a box in the most logical way you'd package a product is copying Apple? You know damned well that's just stupid, just like claiming that ad in any way is a copy of Intel.

Once again, you want to whine and claim people are being unfair by just calling Apple's supporters on their BS, and then you ignore the actual BS. Like I said, it doesn't fly.

 

[Zaap]

Look at how boxes before everyone had the "omg the iPhone is doing so well, let's try to come out with something similar" approach:

HTC Touch Diamond: http://www.realgeek.com/htc-touch-diamond-hands-on-review/
Nokia N82: http://www.allaboutsymbian.com/news/item/7061_Unboxing_the_Black_Nokia_N82.php

I had dozens of cellphones before the iPhone even existed, and most of them came in a box that wasn't any bigger than it had to be to hold the product and the documentation.

Product boxes are designed to be stocked on shelves wherever the product is going to be sold. The HTC diamond box is just stupid- and shows probably one of the reasons HTC isn't as big as it could be. That dumb design automatically limits how many of the product someone could stock effectively, to say nothing of needless expense that the consumer doesn't care about.

Go anywhere these phones are being sold and pay attention to the shelves where the products are stocked. A popular item isn't likely to have a too large stupid-shaped box, because the company that makes it and the retailer likely would rather keep a supply of them that meets the demand. It'd be STUPID for Samsung or anyone else to reinvent the wheel for how the SGS3 is stocked. It has nothing to do with copying Apple. And as I've said and challenged you to prove otherwise, the box has absolutely nothing about it copied from Apple. Someone simply made that up, and you ran with it. Own up.

 

[zsdersw]

I don't think anyone thinks the SGS3 box is a COPY PASTE execution. It RESEMBLES the iPhone.

Oh? The iPhone box has a sleeve around it, too? And all the SGS3 phones, regardless of color, come in a totally white box?

The answers are: No, and No.

 

[Geekbabe]

Intellectual property rights must be respected but there are only so many ways a box can be designed. Personally, I grow weary of Apple lawsuits & wish they would spend consumer dollars in their design lab instead of in the court room. Btw, I'm not an Apple hater, nor am I a rabid android fan, I have & enjoy devices from both Samsung & Apple.

 

[MrX8503]

No what's getting old is some people insisting everything Samsung does is imitation.

Its because they do. Read Samsung's own documents stating so.

 

[Brian Stirling]

Its because they do. Read Samsung's own documents stating so.

What Apple product did Samsung model the Galaxy Note on?


Brian

 

[MrX8503]

What Apple product did Samsung model the Galaxy Note on?

Not everything, but a lot of Samsung's products do imitate Apple's.

 

[Suspicious-Teach8788]

I had dozens of cellphones before the iPhone even existed, and most of them came in a box that wasn't any bigger than it had to be to hold the product and the documentation.

Product boxes are designed to be stocked on shelves wherever the product is going to be sold. The HTC diamond box is just stupid- and shows probably one of the reasons HTC isn't as big as it could be. That dumb design automatically limits how many of the product someone could stock effectively, to say nothing of needless expense that the consumer doesn't care about.

Go anywhere these phones are being sold and pay attention to the shelves where the products are stocked. A popular item isn't likely to have a too large stupid-shaped box, because the company that makes it and the retailer likely would rather keep a supply of them that meets the demand. It'd be STUPID for Samsung or anyone else to reinvent the wheel for how the SGS3 is stocked. It has nothing to do with copying Apple. And as I've said and challenged you to prove otherwise, the box has absolutely nothing about it copied from Apple. Someone simply made that up, and you ran with it. Own up.

I'm going to show you some more extremely popular phones:

Ok so maybe you were stuck under the gestapo carriers and have never seen an actual phone box, but the carrier based boxes were standardized back then too. Some phones were slightly larger, but never varied that much.

Now even the Motorola RAZR doesn't go for minimal packaging.

Now I really don't care what excuse you make for HTC but honestly the Touch Diamond was what made HTC a highly regarded Windows Mobile phone maker. It was really THE ONLY phone that was meant to challenge the iPhone. The Nokia N-series were not touch devices, but challenged the iPhone in terms of functionality, but the HTC Touch Diamond challenged both in terms of functionality and use and design. It's exactly why HTC was an early Android phone maker. There are other reasons why idiotic Americans have no clue about HTC because of the neutered carrier versions they market here.

Please tell me:

Samsung totally wanted to be original, break the trend of bigger boxes, and suddenly go with this minimal boxing just like the iPhone does? Sure buddy.

Notice that both these boxes are barely larger than the phone itself. A departure from other boxes. Some others do it too like HTC, but please tell me Apple had ZERO influence, and both Samsung and HTC arrived at this concept independently, and had Apple boxed its iPhones in a package the size of a car, the SGS3 would've been boxed this exact same way. A LOAD OF BS I TELL YOU.

No what's getting old is some people insisting everything Samsung does is imitation, when clearly it isn't, this just being the latest example.

I don't think the general accusation is that SAmsung is copying EVERYTHING. It's certain features. You already know very well what people are talking about. You mock it and dumb it down to rectangles, but you're just putting words in others' mouths and creating strawman arguments. Good job.

 

[shortylickens]

Samsung is like many other companies in that once a particular product makes a name for itself they will throw the label on EVERYTHING and hope it sells. The Galaxy tag by itself means nothing anymore. And now they've killed the Note name. No one will take it seriously again.

And HTC did the same thing, and so did Motorola. And LG.

 

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[Oyeve]

I have many many phones. The last phone i got was a SGS3, the box is like twice the size of the iphone box. Those pics are just BS. White phone white box, bluw phone blue box. Again, only a stupid asshole would even confuse said boxes for anything other than what they bought. What retard buys a sgs3 because the box is white and thinks its an iphone?

 

[Suspicious-Teach8788]

I have many many phones. The last phone i got was a SGS3, the box is like twice the size of the iphone box. Those pics are just BS. White phone white box, bluw phone blue box. Again, only a stupid asshole would even confuse said boxes for anything other than what they bought. What retard buys a sgs3 because the box is white and thinks its an iphone?

It's twice as big because the screen is huge. The pics are BS?

How about video?

SGS3 Unboxing: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uJNwocpuux0

iPhone unboxing: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3p8YdOaE2FE

The two boxes are clearly different in that one has an iPhone printed on it and the other has Galaxy S III printed on it. Whatever logo or image you slap on it, the fact remains that this type of box is one where the phone is approximately the same size (i.e. the area of the box is barely larger than the phone). You can see it in BOTH videos.

I don't think the argument is that when you buy an SGS3 you get confused that it's an iPhone. That's a straw man argument. STOP using it.

Nor is the argument about Apple copyrighting boxes. That once again is a straw man argument.

What was mentioned before is look at boxes BEFORE the iPhone. You can see those pictures above. Much larger boxes. Now all of a sudden Apple makes it "cool" to have a slender box where you take open it and all you see is the phone. It's a box that barely fits the phone. And all of a sudden the industry follows.

Like I said before Samsung isn't the only one following Apple, and nor am I accusing Samsung of being in violation of anything. However to deny that Apple didn't set trends where the industry is trying to copy it is ridiculous.

After the iPhone everyone else tried to make their touchscreen phone. After the iPad, everyone scrambled to make a tablet. What do you call Honeycomb? It's not a COPY. It's a attempt to respond to Apple--and a horrible executed one. There's always trendsetters in every industry. Toyota made hybrid cars popular. Would you say all hybrid cars are a copy of the Prius? No. But certainly the industry was changed. In some cases the copying went too far like TouchWiz icons mimicking iOS. I think it's fair Apple goes to sue for these things. After all the courts will decide.

The SGS3 isn't the only one. I'd say my SGS2 box is quite similar, and so is my Nexus S box.

 

[Zaap]

*pure insanity*

You seriously need a break dude.

Oh look, I can cherry pick phone models/boxes too:

Ohhh noes! Everybody's copying Apple!! Quick circle the wagons!

Meanwhile, OMG! Ever since Converse put their shoes in one of these, everybody has been copying them! Copycat bastards! How dare they put their products in a box that's roughly the size of the product they sell! Converse and Apple invented that!

You mock it and dumb it down to rectangles, but you're just putting words in others' mouths and creating strawman arguments. Good job.

Dude, I mock YOU, because that's EXACTLY what you do! Here you are, losing your freaking mind over exactly that- rectangles! Freakin' boxes!

And you're still dead wrong. The SGS3 box has a sleeve and splits in half in the middle. It's nothing like the iPhone box. It comes in the color of the phone. It doesn't feature an image of the phone. It's not in any way the same type of box as the iPhone box. Yet look at what you're doing- whining about the fact that it's A RECTANGLE, then whining "Stop saying it's just about rectangles, waahhh!" when really, it's 100% YOU doing just that.

You slipped a gear somewhere along the way. Take a break and chill out already.

 

[MrX8503]

All of those box examples were influenced by the iPhone packaging. I don't ever remember smartphones before 2007 being boxed like that. I owned the Touch Diamond, which had the style and function closest to the iPhone. It was probably the closest device competing with the iPhone back in the day.

If you don't see what Samsung is trying to do, I don't know what else to tell you. Read their emails and R&D docs.

Unrelated, but kinda funny. Samsung billboards are either right next to, behind, or in front of the Apple billboards here in Chicago. Makes me chuckle how fierce the battle is between these two companies.

 

[Zaap]

N/M I'll just get cited for it. All I can say is, there's a valid reason for a certain crazy stereotype.

 

[pm]

Ok, this thread has run it's course. We've gone way off-topic - the thread was about reviews of the Galaxy Note 10.1, not what kind of boxes Samsung and Apple use. Plus, three warnings, and I could have added another.

I will say that I am personally getting a little frustrated with the fact that we have threads about reviews of devices and they devolve into the same sort of lawsuit thread that we've been having more or less non-stop for over a year now. It's in the news (it's in jury deliberations) and so the discussion makes sense, but not in every thread. In this case, it could be argued that the Note is what it is due to the lawsuit and so I'm not going to do anything here... except lock the thread. But I would request that we keep the review threads and review threads and leave the debating about who copied whose boxes to the legal threads.

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