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Gah... VISTA!!

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I can't believe it, I put in my dvd, set about 3 options, and.. It installed. So I waited for like 30 mins and then started installing programs and drivers and I noticed, Man, This feels pretty zippy.

WTH Microsoft, you aren't supposed to make good products, I was guaranteed vista would suck. DANG YOU MICROSOFT!

(Yes, I am a happy vista customer, it was on of the most seamless and painless installation processes I have ever done. Well Done microsoft!)
 
Dang, they must've accidentally shipped you a copy of Windows Mojave by mistake 😱
 
I've been tempted to make the switch (even though Windows 7 is just around the corner). I'm getting really tired of XP, and I didn't particularly like Ubuntu or OpenSUSE.
 
Originally posted by: Random Variable
I've been tempted to make the switch (even though Windows 7 is just around the corner). I'm getting really tired of XP, and I didn't particularly like Ubuntu or OpenSUSE.
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I wouldn't wait, it hasn't been a bad move at all. A the things that people rate it as negative are blown out of proportion or non-existent. Even UAC isn't THAT annoying. (and not impossible to turn off)
 
I installed Vista (xmas present) today dual boot with XP. I was amazed that it installed in 30 minutes flat. Quarter after I put the DVD in and it was quarter till when it booted into windows.

So far I'm impressed. Things seem zippy to me?

Oh the one thing I've commented on a few times to myself is downloading drivers. Are the download rates inflated a little in vista compared to XP? I've seen 2.5MB/s a few times today downloading drivers. Everything is around 900-1.5 all day. My usual was 500ish in XP.

 
Originally posted by: Modelworks
Just wait till you have to install a non MS approved driver.
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Please explain what a non MS approved driver is? Do you mean non WHQL certified drivers? You see the hole in your theory is that a company doesn't even need to go through Microsoft to get their drivers WHQL certified. And why would you want to install a driver that is not audited to be free of malware and safe to install?

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Another thing to keep in mind, only 64 bit Vista requires WHQL certified drivers and this can be over rode if needed.
 
I've been using Vista Business 32-bit for nearly 2 solid years now. Got it for free through the MS "Power Together" program prior to the official launch.

I've recently upgraded to Vista 64bit.

Overall, I have nothing but positive things to say about Vista, on the right hardware. With an adequate system, I've had very few, mostly minor issues that I can count on 1 hand that are directly attributable to Vista alone. Far fewer than I had when using Windows XP.

I've also been pleasantly surprised to find the transition to 64-bit so utterly painless. I have yet to have any major issues or incompatibilities of any kind.

And yes, to the OP, the install process is far and away the easiest, most painless I think I've ever done. 3 clicks, 20 minutes, done. Beautiful.


That all said, I have had the displeasure of running Vista on slower systems (Compaq), and the results have not been stellar. Even with eye candy turned off, the performance is noticeably slower than XP.

All in all though, I've had mostly nothing but good things to say about Vista and served as my only OS beautifully.
 
Originally posted by: Modelworks
Just wait till you have to install a non MS approved driver.
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Well, considering that every driver I need is installed right now and working.. Um Yeah, I'm guessing that will be a long wait. (IE Non issue). To date, I haven't seen a new piece of hardware that doesn't specifically support vista. I doubt some manufacture is going to decide. "Gee, I hate windows, Im not going to release windows drivers for my pc part"
 
That's the thing about Drivers. I keep seeing people claim that the WHQL requirement under Vista 64 is somehow a huge problem. I haven't found a single device that supports Vista that doesn't work under Vista 64 yet. At least not on any of the hardware I use. Any device that has the vista logo on it must support both 32 and 64 bit versions or it can't use the logo.

Now, I will say that there is still legacy hardware out there that has yet to create a Vista driver of any sort. I'm looking at you HP!!!! Get off your duff and create drivers for your older host based printers please.
 
Heh... welcome to the club. I've also been using Vista since I got my first copy through the Power Together promotion and ever XP computer I use feels slow and sluggish now. I just bought my mother an iPod for Christmas and was showing her how to sync and import CD's... I had forgotten how much slower things open on XP.
 
Originally posted by: Griffinhart
Now, I will say that there is still legacy hardware out there that has yet to create a Vista driver of any sort. I'm looking at you HP!!!! Get off your duff and create drivers for your older host based printers please.
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It seems to me since HP over took Dell as the largest PC manufacturer, they are falling into the exact same trap as Dell did. HP used to put out some of the best desktops and laptops on the market a few years ago. But now their quality is eroding along with the user experience, driver support and tech support. (HP is the worst when it comes to crapware installed on it's products.)

Everyone I talk to recently that has made a purchase from HP has been less than impressed with them in one way or another, where Dell now seems to be getting it's act together once again. I suspect a large percentage of people having a poor Vista experience own a HP (Compaq is also HP) desktop or notebook.
 
Originally posted by: us3rnotfound
Originally posted by: Modelworks
Just wait till you have to install a non MS approved driver.
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And click Yes, continue to install driver. That's a tough one.
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Yeah, try that in x64.
Vista is dead as soon as windows 7 hits the shelf, where they thankfully addressed the issue.
 
Originally posted by: Modelworks
Yeah, try that in x64.
Vista is dead as soon as windows 7 hits the shelf, where they thankfully addressed the issue.
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???????

How so?

So you are saying Microsoft dropped the requirement for WHQL certification in Win 7? That would be stupid if they did.

( I haven't put my hands on it yet since I am waiting to legally use it in a few days instead of breaking copyright law and obtaining the build early through bit torrent.)
 
Originally posted by: soonerproud
Originally posted by: Modelworks
Yeah, try that in x64.
Vista is dead as soon as windows 7 hits the shelf, where they thankfully addressed the issue.
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???????

How so?

So you are saying Microsoft dropped the requirement for WHQL certification in Win 7? That would be stupid if they did.

( I haven't put my hands on it yet since I am waiting to legally use it in a few days instead of breaking copyright law and obtaining the build early through bit torrent.)
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I hope not,anyway I'm trying to avoid Win7 since I just want to get my money's worth out of Vista which so far is working great,and yes I'm looking forward to Win8 more then the minor update of Win7.
 
Originally posted by: Mem
Originally posted by: soonerproud
Originally posted by: Modelworks
Yeah, try that in x64.
Vista is dead as soon as windows 7 hits the shelf, where they thankfully addressed the issue.
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???????

How so?

So you are saying Microsoft dropped the requirement for WHQL certification in Win 7? That would be stupid if they did.

( I haven't put my hands on it yet since I am waiting to legally use it in a few days instead of breaking copyright law and obtaining the build early through bit torrent.)
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I hope not,anywway I'm trying to avoid Win7 since I just want to get my money's worth out of Vista which so far is working great,and yes I'm looking forward to Win8 more then the minor upgrade of Win7.
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They didn't remove it. They made it easier to opt to use an unsigned driver if the user wanted to through a simple menu choice.
 
Originally posted by: soonerproud
Originally posted by: Modelworks
Yeah, try that in x64.
Vista is dead as soon as windows 7 hits the shelf, where they thankfully addressed the issue.
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???????

How so?

So you are saying Microsoft dropped the requirement for WHQL certification in Win 7? That would be stupid if they did.

( I haven't put my hands on it yet since I am waiting to legally use it in a few days instead of breaking copyright law and obtaining the build early through bit torrent.)
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It isn't removed its just made easier to do if the user wants to. Sort of the like the way they did UAC where at first it was a annoyance then they toned it down to where you can still use it but without it being so 'in your face' so to speak.
 
They didn't remove it. They made it easier to opt to use an unsigned driver if the user wanted to through a simple menu choice.
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Unsigned drivers I don't use them so not an issue for me,drivers in general have been solid unless you count 180.xx modded drivers(locked up in gaming) for my Dell Vista laptop (I went back to 179.14).


It isn't removed its just made easier to do if the user wants to. Sort of the like the way they did UAC where at first it was a annoyance then they toned it down to where you can still use it but without it being so 'in your face' so to speak.
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UAC I still to this day don't understand why some people go on about it, I don't mind it at all and there's always TweakUAC.
 
Unsigned drivers I don't use them so not an issue for me,
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I think Modelworks uses beta drivers quite a bit so this issue is a point of contention for him.

(I would tire of hitting F8 every time I boot too.)
 
UAC I still to this day don't understand why some people go on about it, I don't mind it at all and there's always TweakUAC.
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There seems to be a mix of legit complaints and "injured pride."

Microsoft noted that their ongoing work with software makers has drastically reduced the amount of UAC prompts being caused by third-party software trying to do stuff that it really shouldn't be.

Of the prompts caused by the OS itself... personally, having used Win2000 and WinXP as a low-rights user all day, every day, for years, I fully expect to be challenged if I try to mess with stuff that could be important to system security. People who've been running Windows as Admins are accustomed to "Win95 mode" where they can do anything (and something exploiting their session also can do anything). They resent security prompts as some sort of tacit insult to their compotence, forgetting (or not knowing) what an exploit can do on their behalf. Out-of-date Flash Player, no UAC, Admin account... you're pwned by a "malvertisement" planted on a trusted site you visit.
 
Originally posted by: soonerproud
Unsigned drivers I don't use them so not an issue for me,
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I think Modelworks uses beta drivers quite a bit so this issue is a point of contention for him.

(I would tire of hitting F8 every time I boot too.)
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I do.
Currently using beta CUDA drivers from Nvidia that are sometimes new builds every night.
 
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