GAH! Genesis spacecraft chutes fail to open!

[johnjbruin]

Well - I think the idea of hooking into a parachute from a helicopter is really dumb to begin with. What type of senior engineers approved this idiotic idea.
I am sure they can think of something better than that considering they are one of the smartest people this country is suppose to have.

 

[tweakmm]

Originally posted by: Stojakapimp

Originally posted by: Armitage

Originally posted by: blakeatwork
Call me weird, and uninformed...

but, couldn't they have come up with a reentry plan that had a higher chance of succeeding that didn't involved cloth and bungee cords?? I mean really, they're pinning 230 million US taxpayer dollars in funding on something that, at times, has a hard time deploying for a human being, let alone a piece of inanimate equipment.. I really have a hrd time beleiving that that is the best that NASA could come up with..

no wonder the bloody shuttle blew up, with Einstein's like that on the ground...

Suggestions?
Parachutes are the simplest, lightest, most reliable recovery systems available. We'll have to see what went wrong.

You guys all seem to think this is easy :disgust:

There's nothing easy about sending a refrigerator into space, having it collect atoms from solar winds, and then reentering back to Earth. But you'd think that if they could do that, they should be able to do something easier like landing the damn thing so that they can complete their mission. If they can't recover any of that data, that's a lot of money down the tube because of their incompetence.

How long have you been working for NASA because you sure seem to know a lot about rocket re-entry? Is it possible that making everything work smoothly isn't as easy at it seems? If it really was an easy task don't you think that Genesis would have landed without a hitch?

 

[Armitage]

Originally posted by: Stojakapimp

Originally posted by: Armitage

Originally posted by: blakeatwork
Call me weird, and uninformed...

but, couldn't they have come up with a reentry plan that had a higher chance of succeeding that didn't involved cloth and bungee cords?? I mean really, they're pinning 230 million US taxpayer dollars in funding on something that, at times, has a hard time deploying for a human being, let alone a piece of inanimate equipment.. I really have a hrd time beleiving that that is the best that NASA could come up with..

no wonder the bloody shuttle blew up, with Einstein's like that on the ground...

Suggestions?
Parachutes are the simplest, lightest, most reliable recovery systems available. We'll have to see what went wrong.

You guys all seem to think this is easy :disgust:

There's nothing easy about sending a refrigerator into space, having it collect atoms from solar winds, and then reentering back to Earth. But you'd think that if they could do that, they should be able to do something easier like landing the damn thing so that they can complete their mission. If they can't recover any of that data, that's a lot of money down the tube because of their incompetence.

Well, I guess we'll just have to see if it was incompetence, or simply a failure that couldn't be anticipated & planned for. There are always a million things that can go wrong with this sort of mission, and not all of them can be eliminated. You do what you can to lower the risk, but it's always there.

You know people on this board seem to have trouble keeping a computer running under the desk for more then a week at a time, yet everybody jumps all over NASA when a complex machine fails after the stress of launch, 3 years in space (vacuum, extreme temperatures, radiation, etc.), and then up to 30G's of reentry stress. I'm not saying somebody didn't screw up ... it's happened before. But lets get some damn facts first :disgust:

 

[cHeeZeFacTory]

maybe w/ the help of GPS, they could've pinpoint the the location of impact and put a giant marshmellow there.

 

[imported_Salvatore]

Originally posted by: isasir
They should've had a guy on the ground yelling "I got it, I got it!"

XD

 

[cerebusPu]

maybe this gensis doesnt exist and that picture is really a crashed UFO. hows that for a conspiracy theory?

 

[MacBaine]

A space capsule holding atoms collected from solar wind fell to a crash landing on Earth Wednesday after its parachute failed.

It's teh Andromeda Strain!

 

[Balt]

Originally posted by: GTaudiophile
Genesis was launched three years ago and was returning to Earth with billions of atoms collected from the solar wind.

Space virus anyone?

Ever read Andromeda Strain? :Q

 

[cerebusPu]

ooh..lockheed martin was the contractor for this one. its not really NASA engineers fault. lockheed martin also made that space probe that crashed into MARs because they were doing everything in the wrong units.

 

[UTmtnbiker]

I blame it on the fact it was landing in Utah.

Upon being informed of where it was going to end up, the spacecraft elected that plunging itself into terra firma at approximately mach 1 million was better than ending up here.

 

[Stojakapimp]

Originally posted by: tweakmm

Originally posted by: Stojakapimp

Originally posted by: Armitage

Originally posted by: blakeatwork
Call me weird, and uninformed...

but, couldn't they have come up with a reentry plan that had a higher chance of succeeding that didn't involved cloth and bungee cords?? I mean really, they're pinning 230 million US taxpayer dollars in funding on something that, at times, has a hard time deploying for a human being, let alone a piece of inanimate equipment.. I really have a hrd time beleiving that that is the best that NASA could come up with..

no wonder the bloody shuttle blew up, with Einstein's like that on the ground...

Suggestions?
Parachutes are the simplest, lightest, most reliable recovery systems available. We'll have to see what went wrong.

You guys all seem to think this is easy :disgust:

There's nothing easy about sending a refrigerator into space, having it collect atoms from solar winds, and then reentering back to Earth. But you'd think that if they could do that, they should be able to do something easier like landing the damn thing so that they can complete their mission. If they can't recover any of that data, that's a lot of money down the tube because of their incompetence.

How long have you been working for NASA because you sure seem to know a lot about rocket re-entry? Is it possible that making everything work smoothly isn't as easy at it seems? If it really was an easy task don't you think that Genesis would have landed without a hitch?

I actually don't work for NASA. Is there something wrong with me saying that I think it's silly that the very last objective of the mission, the only thing left that could screw something up, and seemingly one of the simpler things compared to what else it accomplished, didn't work? I don't know about you, but I don't think it's the funniest thing when billions of tax payer's dollars go down the tube, but I guess you don't really care about that

 

[tweakmm]

Originally posted by: Stojakapimp

Originally posted by: tweakmm

Originally posted by: Stojakapimp

Originally posted by: Armitage

Originally posted by: blakeatwork
Call me weird, and uninformed...

but, couldn't they have come up with a reentry plan that had a higher chance of succeeding that didn't involved cloth and bungee cords?? I mean really, they're pinning 230 million US taxpayer dollars in funding on something that, at times, has a hard time deploying for a human being, let alone a piece of inanimate equipment.. I really have a hrd time beleiving that that is the best that NASA could come up with..

no wonder the bloody shuttle blew up, with Einstein's like that on the ground...

Suggestions?
Parachutes are the simplest, lightest, most reliable recovery systems available. We'll have to see what went wrong.

You guys all seem to think this is easy :disgust:

There's nothing easy about sending a refrigerator into space, having it collect atoms from solar winds, and then reentering back to Earth. But you'd think that if they could do that, they should be able to do something easier like landing the damn thing so that they can complete their mission. If they can't recover any of that data, that's a lot of money down the tube because of their incompetence.

How long have you been working for NASA because you sure seem to know a lot about rocket re-entry? Is it possible that making everything work smoothly isn't as easy at it seems? If it really was an easy task don't you think that Genesis would have landed without a hitch?

I actually don't work for NASA.

No kidding :shocked:

Is there something wrong with me saying that I think it's silly that the very last objective of the mission, the only thing left that could screw something up, and seemingly one of the simpler things compared to what else it accomplished, didn't work?

It seems more simple but you really have no idea do you, because as you said, you do not work for NASA. If it was the most simple part of the mission don't you think that it would have worked fine?

I don't know about you, but I don't think it's the funniest thing when billions of tax payer's dollars go down the tube, but I guess you don't really care about that

You don't think it's funny, just silly? I do care if tax payers money gets wasted, but I don't think that one can say that NASA has an easy job, when you are dealing with space travel and re-entry I'm sure millions of things can go wrong and it's really quite incredible that a lot more things haven't messed up throughout the years.

It is possible that this is a screw up, but there is an equally great possibility that this was an unplanned event that I don't think it's fair to blame the NASA engineers for.

 

[Armitage]

Originally posted by: Stojakapimp

Originally posted by: tweakmm

Originally posted by: Stojakapimp

Originally posted by: Armitage

Originally posted by: blakeatwork
Call me weird, and uninformed...

but, couldn't they have come up with a reentry plan that had a higher chance of succeeding that didn't involved cloth and bungee cords?? I mean really, they're pinning 230 million US taxpayer dollars in funding on something that, at times, has a hard time deploying for a human being, let alone a piece of inanimate equipment.. I really have a hrd time beleiving that that is the best that NASA could come up with..

no wonder the bloody shuttle blew up, with Einstein's like that on the ground...

Suggestions?
Parachutes are the simplest, lightest, most reliable recovery systems available. We'll have to see what went wrong.

You guys all seem to think this is easy :disgust:

There's nothing easy about sending a refrigerator into space, having it collect atoms from solar winds, and then reentering back to Earth. But you'd think that if they could do that, they should be able to do something easier like landing the damn thing so that they can complete their mission. If they can't recover any of that data, that's a lot of money down the tube because of their incompetence.

How long have you been working for NASA because you sure seem to know a lot about rocket re-entry? Is it possible that making everything work smoothly isn't as easy at it seems? If it really was an easy task don't you think that Genesis would have landed without a hitch?

I actually don't work for NASA. Is there something wrong with me saying that I think it's silly that the very last objective of the mission, the only thing left that could screw something up, and seemingly one of the simpler things compared to what else it accomplished, didn't work? I don't know about you, but I don't think it's the funniest thing when billions of tax payer's dollars go down the tube, but I guess you don't really care about that

About 1/4 of a billion dollars actually. About the production cost of a big hollywood movie.
Shrug ... maybe somebody fvcked up, maybe they didn't. you have no basis to draw any conclusions at this time.

 

[Stojakapimp]

Originally posted by: tweakmm

Originally posted by: Stojakapimp

Originally posted by: tweakmm

Originally posted by: Stojakapimp

Originally posted by: Armitage

Originally posted by: blakeatwork
Call me weird, and uninformed...

but, couldn't they have come up with a reentry plan that had a higher chance of succeeding that didn't involved cloth and bungee cords?? I mean really, they're pinning 230 million US taxpayer dollars in funding on something that, at times, has a hard time deploying for a human being, let alone a piece of inanimate equipment.. I really have a hrd time beleiving that that is the best that NASA could come up with..

no wonder the bloody shuttle blew up, with Einstein's like that on the ground...

Suggestions?
Parachutes are the simplest, lightest, most reliable recovery systems available. We'll have to see what went wrong.

You guys all seem to think this is easy :disgust:

There's nothing easy about sending a refrigerator into space, having it collect atoms from solar winds, and then reentering back to Earth. But you'd think that if they could do that, they should be able to do something easier like landing the damn thing so that they can complete their mission. If they can't recover any of that data, that's a lot of money down the tube because of their incompetence.

How long have you been working for NASA because you sure seem to know a lot about rocket re-entry? Is it possible that making everything work smoothly isn't as easy at it seems? If it really was an easy task don't you think that Genesis would have landed without a hitch?

I actually don't work for NASA.

No kidding :shocked:

Is there something wrong with me saying that I think it's silly that the very last objective of the mission, the only thing left that could screw something up, and seemingly one of the simpler things compared to what else it accomplished, didn't work?

It seems more simple but you really have no idea do you, because as you said, you do not work for NASA. If it was the most simple part of the mission don't you think that it would have worked fine?

I don't know about you, but I don't think it's the funniest thing when billions of tax payer's dollars go down the tube, but I guess you don't really care about that

You don't think it's funny, just silly? I do care if tax payers money gets wasted, but I don't think that one can say that NASA has an easy job, when you are dealing with space travel and re-entry I'm sure millions of things can go wrong and it's really quite incredible that a lot more things haven't messed up throughout the years.

It is possible that this is a screw up, but there is an equally great possibility that this was an unplanned event that I don't think it's fair to blame the NASA engineers for.

Did I say it was easy?

 

[tweakmm]

Originally posted by: Stojakapimp

Originally posted by: tweakmm

Originally posted by: Stojakapimp

Originally posted by: tweakmm

Originally posted by: Stojakapimp

Originally posted by: Armitage

Originally posted by: blakeatwork
Call me weird, and uninformed...

but, couldn't they have come up with a reentry plan that had a higher chance of succeeding that didn't involved cloth and bungee cords?? I mean really, they're pinning 230 million US taxpayer dollars in funding on something that, at times, has a hard time deploying for a human being, let alone a piece of inanimate equipment.. I really have a hrd time beleiving that that is the best that NASA could come up with..

no wonder the bloody shuttle blew up, with Einstein's like that on the ground...

Suggestions?
Parachutes are the simplest, lightest, most reliable recovery systems available. We'll have to see what went wrong.

You guys all seem to think this is easy :disgust:

There's nothing easy about sending a refrigerator into space, having it collect atoms from solar winds, and then reentering back to Earth. But you'd think that if they could do that, they should be able to do something easier like landing the damn thing so that they can complete their mission. If they can't recover any of that data, that's a lot of money down the tube because of their incompetence.

How long have you been working for NASA because you sure seem to know a lot about rocket re-entry? Is it possible that making everything work smoothly isn't as easy at it seems? If it really was an easy task don't you think that Genesis would have landed without a hitch?

I actually don't work for NASA.

No kidding :shocked:

Is there something wrong with me saying that I think it's silly that the very last objective of the mission, the only thing left that could screw something up, and seemingly one of the simpler things compared to what else it accomplished, didn't work?

It seems more simple but you really have no idea do you, because as you said, you do not work for NASA. If it was the most simple part of the mission don't you think that it would have worked fine?

I don't know about you, but I don't think it's the funniest thing when billions of tax payer's dollars go down the tube, but I guess you don't really care about that

You don't think it's funny, just silly? I do care if tax payers money gets wasted, but I don't think that one can say that NASA has an easy job, when you are dealing with space travel and re-entry I'm sure millions of things can go wrong and it's really quite incredible that a lot more things haven't messed up throughout the years.

It is possible that this is a screw up, but there is an equally great possibility that this was an unplanned event that I don't think it's fair to blame the NASA engineers for.

Did I say it was easy?

Did I say you said it was easy?

 

[Kraeji]

Originally posted by: blakeatwork
Call me weird, and uninformed...

but, couldn't they have come up with a reentry plan that had a higher chance of succeeding that didn't involved cloth and bungee cords?? I mean really, they're pinning 230 million US taxpayer dollars in funding on something that, at times, has a hard time deploying for a human being, let alone a piece of inanimate equipment.. I really have a hrd time beleiving that that is the best that NASA could come up with..

no wonder the bloody shuttle blew up, with Einstein's like that on the ground...

You can do better? Maybe you should apply at NASA...

 

[Stojakapimp]

Originally posted by: tweakmm

Originally posted by: Stojakapimp

Originally posted by: tweakmm

Originally posted by: Stojakapimp

Originally posted by: tweakmm

Originally posted by: Stojakapimp

Originally posted by: Armitage

Originally posted by: blakeatwork
Call me weird, and uninformed...

but, couldn't they have come up with a reentry plan that had a higher chance of succeeding that didn't involved cloth and bungee cords?? I mean really, they're pinning 230 million US taxpayer dollars in funding on something that, at times, has a hard time deploying for a human being, let alone a piece of inanimate equipment.. I really have a hrd time beleiving that that is the best that NASA could come up with..

no wonder the bloody shuttle blew up, with Einstein's like that on the ground...

Suggestions?
Parachutes are the simplest, lightest, most reliable recovery systems available. We'll have to see what went wrong.

You guys all seem to think this is easy :disgust:

There's nothing easy about sending a refrigerator into space, having it collect atoms from solar winds, and then reentering back to Earth. But you'd think that if they could do that, they should be able to do something easier like landing the damn thing so that they can complete their mission. If they can't recover any of that data, that's a lot of money down the tube because of their incompetence.

How long have you been working for NASA because you sure seem to know a lot about rocket re-entry? Is it possible that making everything work smoothly isn't as easy at it seems? If it really was an easy task don't you think that Genesis would have landed without a hitch?

I actually don't work for NASA.

No kidding :shocked:

Is there something wrong with me saying that I think it's silly that the very last objective of the mission, the only thing left that could screw something up, and seemingly one of the simpler things compared to what else it accomplished, didn't work?

It seems more simple but you really have no idea do you, because as you said, you do not work for NASA. If it was the most simple part of the mission don't you think that it would have worked fine?

I don't know about you, but I don't think it's the funniest thing when billions of tax payer's dollars go down the tube, but I guess you don't really care about that

You don't think it's funny, just silly? I do care if tax payers money gets wasted, but I don't think that one can say that NASA has an easy job, when you are dealing with space travel and re-entry I'm sure millions of things can go wrong and it's really quite incredible that a lot more things haven't messed up throughout the years.

It is possible that this is a screw up, but there is an equally great possibility that this was an unplanned event that I don't think it's fair to blame the NASA engineers for.

Did I say it was easy?

Did I say you said it was easy?

yes?

 

[z0mb13]

hmmmmm kinda remember the point in deception point...

 

[tweakmm]

Originally posted by: Stojakapimp

Originally posted by: tweakmm

Originally posted by: Stojakapimp

Originally posted by: tweakmm

Originally posted by: Stojakapimp

Originally posted by: tweakmm

Originally posted by: Stojakapimp

Originally posted by: Armitage

Originally posted by: blakeatwork
Call me weird, and uninformed...

but, couldn't they have come up with a reentry plan that had a higher chance of succeeding that didn't involved cloth and bungee cords?? I mean really, they're pinning 230 million US taxpayer dollars in funding on something that, at times, has a hard time deploying for a human being, let alone a piece of inanimate equipment.. I really have a hrd time beleiving that that is the best that NASA could come up with..

no wonder the bloody shuttle blew up, with Einstein's like that on the ground...

Suggestions?
Parachutes are the simplest, lightest, most reliable recovery systems available. We'll have to see what went wrong.

You guys all seem to think this is easy :disgust:

There's nothing easy about sending a refrigerator into space, having it collect atoms from solar winds, and then reentering back to Earth. But you'd think that if they could do that, they should be able to do something easier like landing the damn thing so that they can complete their mission. If they can't recover any of that data, that's a lot of money down the tube because of their incompetence.

How long have you been working for NASA because you sure seem to know a lot about rocket re-entry? Is it possible that making everything work smoothly isn't as easy at it seems? If it really was an easy task don't you think that Genesis would have landed without a hitch?

I actually don't work for NASA.

No kidding :shocked:

Is there something wrong with me saying that I think it's silly that the very last objective of the mission, the only thing left that could screw something up, and seemingly one of the simpler things compared to what else it accomplished, didn't work?

It seems more simple but you really have no idea do you, because as you said, you do not work for NASA. If it was the most simple part of the mission don't you think that it would have worked fine?

I don't know about you, but I don't think it's the funniest thing when billions of tax payer's dollars go down the tube, but I guess you don't really care about that

You don't think it's funny, just silly? I do care if tax payers money gets wasted, but I don't think that one can say that NASA has an easy job, when you are dealing with space travel and re-entry I'm sure millions of things can go wrong and it's really quite incredible that a lot more things haven't messed up throughout the years.

It is possible that this is a screw up, but there is an equally great possibility that this was an unplanned event that I don't think it's fair to blame the NASA engineers for.

Did I say it was easy?

Did I say you said it was easy?

yes?

Niner.
I was just saying that NASA does not have an easy job as part of my point. I wasn't trying to correct you or anything.

 

[Stojakapimp]

Originally posted by: tweakmm

Originally posted by: Stojakapimp

Originally posted by: tweakmm

Originally posted by: Stojakapimp

Originally posted by: tweakmm

Originally posted by: Stojakapimp

Originally posted by: tweakmm

Originally posted by: Stojakapimp

Originally posted by: Armitage

Originally posted by: blakeatwork
Call me weird, and uninformed...

but, couldn't they have come up with a reentry plan that had a higher chance of succeeding that didn't involved cloth and bungee cords?? I mean really, they're pinning 230 million US taxpayer dollars in funding on something that, at times, has a hard time deploying for a human being, let alone a piece of inanimate equipment.. I really have a hrd time beleiving that that is the best that NASA could come up with..

no wonder the bloody shuttle blew up, with Einstein's like that on the ground...

Suggestions?
Parachutes are the simplest, lightest, most reliable recovery systems available. We'll have to see what went wrong.

You guys all seem to think this is easy :disgust:

There's nothing easy about sending a refrigerator into space, having it collect atoms from solar winds, and then reentering back to Earth. But you'd think that if they could do that, they should be able to do something easier like landing the damn thing so that they can complete their mission. If they can't recover any of that data, that's a lot of money down the tube because of their incompetence.

How long have you been working for NASA because you sure seem to know a lot about rocket re-entry? Is it possible that making everything work smoothly isn't as easy at it seems? If it really was an easy task don't you think that Genesis would have landed without a hitch?

I actually don't work for NASA.

No kidding :shocked:

Is there something wrong with me saying that I think it's silly that the very last objective of the mission, the only thing left that could screw something up, and seemingly one of the simpler things compared to what else it accomplished, didn't work?

It seems more simple but you really have no idea do you, because as you said, you do not work for NASA. If it was the most simple part of the mission don't you think that it would have worked fine?

I don't know about you, but I don't think it's the funniest thing when billions of tax payer's dollars go down the tube, but I guess you don't really care about that

You don't think it's funny, just silly? I do care if tax payers money gets wasted, but I don't think that one can say that NASA has an easy job, when you are dealing with space travel and re-entry I'm sure millions of things can go wrong and it's really quite incredible that a lot more things haven't messed up throughout the years.

It is possible that this is a screw up, but there is an equally great possibility that this was an unplanned event that I don't think it's fair to blame the NASA engineers for.

Did I say it was easy?

Did I say you said it was easy?

yes?

Niner.
I was just saying that NASA does not have an easy job. I wasn't trying to correct you or anything.

Well I don't deny that. Yes it's hard and of course there is a lot of risk involved, but it really sucks that this mission failed on the very last part of it's journey, possibly wasting all that money.

 

[CanOWorms]

Originally posted by: johnjbruin
Well - I think the idea of hooking into a parachute from a helicopter is really dumb to begin with. What type of senior engineers approved this idiotic idea.
I am sure they can think of something better than that considering they are one of the smartest people this country is suppose to have.

They wanted to catch it in mid-air because even with a parachute, it would land at something like 9mph, which could potentially harm/upset the samples taken.

 

[Armitage]

Originally posted by: Stojakapimp

Originally posted by: tweakmm

Originally posted by: Stojakapimp

Originally posted by: tweakmm

Originally posted by: Stojakapimp

Originally posted by: Armitage

Originally posted by: blakeatwork
Call me weird, and uninformed...

but, couldn't they have come up with a reentry plan that had a higher chance of succeeding that didn't involved cloth and bungee cords?? I mean really, they're pinning 230 million US taxpayer dollars in funding on something that, at times, has a hard time deploying for a human being, let alone a piece of inanimate equipment.. I really have a hrd time beleiving that that is the best that NASA could come up with..

no wonder the bloody shuttle blew up, with Einstein's like that on the ground...

Suggestions?
Parachutes are the simplest, lightest, most reliable recovery systems available. We'll have to see what went wrong.

You guys all seem to think this is easy :disgust:

There's nothing easy about sending a refrigerator into space, having it collect atoms from solar winds, and then reentering back to Earth. But you'd think that if they could do that, they should be able to do something easier like landing the damn thing so that they can complete their mission. If they can't recover any of that data, that's a lot of money down the tube because of their incompetence.

How long have you been working for NASA because you sure seem to know a lot about rocket re-entry? Is it possible that making everything work smoothly isn't as easy at it seems? If it really was an easy task don't you think that Genesis would have landed without a hitch?

I actually don't work for NASA.

No kidding :shocked:

Is there something wrong with me saying that I think it's silly that the very last objective of the mission, the only thing left that could screw something up, and seemingly one of the simpler things compared to what else it accomplished, didn't work?

It seems more simple but you really have no idea do you, because as you said, you do not work for NASA. If it was the most simple part of the mission don't you think that it would have worked fine?

I don't know about you, but I don't think it's the funniest thing when billions of tax payer's dollars go down the tube, but I guess you don't really care about that

You don't think it's funny, just silly? I do care if tax payers money gets wasted, but I don't think that one can say that NASA has an easy job, when you are dealing with space travel and re-entry I'm sure millions of things can go wrong and it's really quite incredible that a lot more things haven't messed up throughout the years.

It is possible that this is a screw up, but there is an equally great possibility that this was an unplanned event that I don't think it's fair to blame the NASA engineers for.

Did I say it was easy?

Well, you certainly implied it "seemingly one of the simpler things". Actually reentry is one of the more difficult things, doubly so, as you have only one chance at it. And you have repeatedly described NASA as incompetent, which, as I've said before, is completely unsupported by the evidence at this point.

 

[Stojakapimp]

Originally posted by: Armitage

Originally posted by: Stojakapimp

Originally posted by: tweakmm

Originally posted by: Stojakapimp

Originally posted by: tweakmm

Originally posted by: Stojakapimp

Originally posted by: Armitage

Originally posted by: blakeatwork
Call me weird, and uninformed...

but, couldn't they have come up with a reentry plan that had a higher chance of succeeding that didn't involved cloth and bungee cords?? I mean really, they're pinning 230 million US taxpayer dollars in funding on something that, at times, has a hard time deploying for a human being, let alone a piece of inanimate equipment.. I really have a hrd time beleiving that that is the best that NASA could come up with..

no wonder the bloody shuttle blew up, with Einstein's like that on the ground...

Suggestions?
Parachutes are the simplest, lightest, most reliable recovery systems available. We'll have to see what went wrong.

You guys all seem to think this is easy :disgust:

There's nothing easy about sending a refrigerator into space, having it collect atoms from solar winds, and then reentering back to Earth. But you'd think that if they could do that, they should be able to do something easier like landing the damn thing so that they can complete their mission. If they can't recover any of that data, that's a lot of money down the tube because of their incompetence.

How long have you been working for NASA because you sure seem to know a lot about rocket re-entry? Is it possible that making everything work smoothly isn't as easy at it seems? If it really was an easy task don't you think that Genesis would have landed without a hitch?

I actually don't work for NASA.

No kidding :shocked:

Is there something wrong with me saying that I think it's silly that the very last objective of the mission, the only thing left that could screw something up, and seemingly one of the simpler things compared to what else it accomplished, didn't work?

It seems more simple but you really have no idea do you, because as you said, you do not work for NASA. If it was the most simple part of the mission don't you think that it would have worked fine?

I don't know about you, but I don't think it's the funniest thing when billions of tax payer's dollars go down the tube, but I guess you don't really care about that

You don't think it's funny, just silly? I do care if tax payers money gets wasted, but I don't think that one can say that NASA has an easy job, when you are dealing with space travel and re-entry I'm sure millions of things can go wrong and it's really quite incredible that a lot more things haven't messed up throughout the years.

It is possible that this is a screw up, but there is an equally great possibility that this was an unplanned event that I don't think it's fair to blame the NASA engineers for.

Did I say it was easy?

Well, you certainly implied it "seemingly one of the simpler things". Actually reentry is one of the more difficult things, doubly so, as you have only one chance at it. And you have repeatedly described NASA as incompetent, which, as I've said before, is completely unsupported by the evidence at this point.

I repeatedly said that? I said that once. But yes, I agree, let's wait for the evidence to come through.

But regardless of who they can pinpoint this down on, won't NASA be the ultimate group to blame? I mean, if you're sending a "1/4 billions dollars" into space, don't you think you should be somewhat involved in ending the mission. But who knows...maybe aliens shot it down with lasers...then perhaps we can't blame it on NASA. Until then, let's just hope they can retrieve that data.

 

[ReiAyanami]

$400 billion for military
$200 billion for Iraqi War
$250 billion for Lockheed's JSF
$200 billion for a missile shield that may or may not work

$16 billion for NASA

no wonder they cant get anything done right

 

[m2kewl]

i love where my tax money went...

straight down the gutter!!! :|