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G92 launch this month!

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^ Um, it hasn't even been out a year. Though I do agree that the 8800GTS 320MB owners really got the most for their money when you look at how little the value of them has dropped since release.
 
G92 will be sold as 3 SKUs
8800GS, 8800GT and (new) 8800GTS

8800GS: 6TPC(96SP),~$150, 256MB/256bit
8800GT:7TPC(112SP), ~$200-250, geared at replacing 8800GTS 320MB. There can be two versions of 256MB and 512MB. Many OC versions may be available.
G92 fully flegded version. new 8800GTS(comes later): 8TPC, 128SP, to replace 8800GTS/640MB. Comes with 512MB; If OC'ed, it should be close to GTX/Ultra in 3DMark??Of course under 1920*1200 4XAA, it will still be slower than 768MB/384Bit GTX/Ultra.
 
Originally posted by: kknd1967
Things get more and more messy. This link says the new 8800GTS will also be based on G92, which means all the current 8800GTS will be phased out. Make sense though.
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Ugh. Time for an 'accident' so I can RMA my card and get a new 8800GTS ^^
 
Originally posted by: kknd1967
G92 will be sold as 3 SKUs
8800GS, 8800GT and (new) 8800GTS

8800GS: 6TPC(96SP),~$150, 256MB/256bit
8800GT:7TPC(112SP), ~$200-250, geared at replacing 8800GTS 320MB. There can be two versions of 256MB and 512MB. Many OC versions may be available.
G92 fully flegded version. new 8800GTS(comes later): 8TPC, 128SP, to replace 8800GTS/640MB. Comes with 512MB; If OC'ed, it should be close to GTX/Ultra in 3DMark??Of course under 1920*1200 4XAA, it will still be slower than 768MB/384Bit GTX/Ultra.
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That doen't make any sense, if the new gts has 512mb of mem, then it means it has a 256-bit bus, as opposed to a 320-bit bus on the current 640mb model.
 
Originally posted by: munky
Originally posted by: kknd1967
G92 will be sold as 3 SKUs
8800GS, 8800GT and (new) 8800GTS

8800GS: 6TPC(96SP),~$150, 256MB/256bit
8800GT:7TPC(112SP), ~$200-250, geared at replacing 8800GTS 320MB. There can be two versions of 256MB and 512MB. Many OC versions may be available.
G92 fully flegded version. new 8800GTS(comes later): 8TPC, 128SP, to replace 8800GTS/640MB. Comes with 512MB; If OC'ed, it should be close to GTX/Ultra in 3DMark??Of course under 1920*1200 4XAA, it will still be slower than 768MB/384Bit GTX/Ultra.
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That doen't make any sense, if the new gts has 512mb of mem, then it means it has a 256-bit bus, as opposed to a 320-bit bus on the current 640mb model.
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What part exactly doesn't make any sense?

If new 8800 GTS's memory frequency is over 2000MHz it will have bigger memory bandwith than old version. If 8800 GT has 1800MHz for memory..I would be suprised if new GTS would have smaller bandwith. It will have smaller amount of memory compared to 8800 GTS 640MB, but this should be small issue. Well some manufacturer can bring 1024MB version if that's needed.
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..well these specs are just speculation. Some time ago this one guy insisted that G92=8700 GTS and is totally just G84 replacement..and people did think that it was foolish to think that G92 would replace G80 (atleast partially)..which is the case according these rumours.

 
Originally posted by: munky
Originally posted by: kknd1967
G92 will be sold as 3 SKUs
8800GS, 8800GT and (new) 8800GTS

8800GS: 6TPC(96SP),~$150, 256MB/256bit
8800GT:7TPC(112SP), ~$200-250, geared at replacing 8800GTS 320MB. There can be two versions of 256MB and 512MB. Many OC versions may be available.
G92 fully flegded version. new 8800GTS(comes later): 8TPC, 128SP, to replace 8800GTS/640MB. Comes with 512MB; If OC'ed, it should be close to GTX/Ultra in 3DMark??Of course under 1920*1200 4XAA, it will still be slower than 768MB/384Bit GTX/Ultra.
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That doen't make any sense, if the new gts has 512mb of mem, then it means it has a 256-bit bus, as opposed to a 320-bit bus on the current 640mb model.
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and do you think this will make a diffrence ? ive always thought that the real reason the 8600GT/GTS were 128bit was because if they were 256bit they would of been just as fast as the 8800GTS, i might be wrong.

kind of like when AGP 8x cards stsrted turning up, my mate actually sold his AGP 4X Ti4200 and bought a brand new 8x AGP ti4200 and gained nothing apart from a loss in money. 😛



 
Originally posted by: SniperDaws
and do you think this will make a diffrence ? ive always thought that the real reason the 8600GT/GTS were 128bit was because if they were 256bit they would of been just as fast as the 8800GTS, i might be wrong.
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There's always the thing that 8600 GT/GTS has only 32 SP, 16 TMU and 8 ROP unit against 96 SP, 24 TMU and 20 ROP (8600 GT/GTS cards have bigger frequences, but still G84 GPU doesn't come close to 88GTS..)
 
I just copied whatever rumors I saw, for your amusement. don't blame me if it is wrong 🙂
Frankly I have no idea what most those numbers mean haha


http://news.expreview.com/2007...1/1192089687d3904.html
8800GT has 112SP:So sorry that our yesterday's news have make some mistakes. Now we are sure that the upcoming 8800GT in the late Oct will only have 112SP version. And it is the downsteam manufactor's decision to producce 256 or 512MB 8800GT. It is said that the final version may have those green stock cooler(the ref. version is black.)

8800GT frequency comfirmed: 8800GS,8800GT,8800GTS all uses 65nm G92 GPU, the difference is the SP number. What's more,we are now sure the 8800GT frequency is 600MHz/1800MHz/1500MHz (core/memory/shader).the prize is between 199~249 USD.

Documents didn't say anything about DX10.1:So many people are concerning about the DX10.1 support issue. But it is said that the offical document did not mention anything about DX10.1,just saying "Full Microsoft® DirectX® 10 Support" .But we are sure that AMD are preparing more.

Some result leak in the web:The Mobile01 said that 8800GT @ Q6600 can hit a really good score: 3DMark03: 35351/ 3DMark05: 14679

So it is almost all we've got. remember that the release date is Oct.29th.



 
Originally posted by: Rusin
Originally posted by: SniperDaws
and do you think this will make a diffrence ? ive always thought that the real reason the 8600GT/GTS were 128bit was because if they were 256bit they would of been just as fast as the 8800GTS, i might be wrong.
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There's always the thing that 8600 GT/GTS has only 32 SP, 16 TMU and 8 ROP unit against 96 SP, 24 TMU and 20 ROP (8600 GT/GTS cards have bigger frequences, but still G84 GPU doesn't come close to 88GTS..)
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Christ i didnt realise they chopped the 8600GT down by that much, no wonder its slow.
 
Originally posted by: Skott
The way I look at it is that a person needs a 8800GTS 640 or better. Anything less is just gonna be a letdown. So at least a 8800GTS 640 to play it safe. The downside is not everyone can afford the price. Hopefully ATI can release something spectacular soon to help force nVidia's prices down. I dont see anything on the horizon though unfortunately. :frown:
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I totally agree. If you can't afford it, wait until you can. I will buy nothing less than an 8800GTS 640 when I upgrade sometime in the next 4 months.
 
Originally posted by: Rusin
What part exactly doesn't make any sense?

If new 8800 GTS's memory frequency is over 2000MHz it will have bigger memory bandwith than old version. If 8800 GT has 1800MHz for memory..I would be suprised if new GTS would have smaller bandwith. It will have smaller amount of memory compared to 8800 GTS 640MB, but this should be small issue. Well some manufacturer can bring 1024MB version if that's needed.
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..well these specs are just speculation. Some time ago this one guy insisted that G92=8700 GTS and is totally just G84 replacement..and people did think that it was foolish to think that G92 would replace G80 (atleast partially)..which is the case according these rumours.
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Even if the 256-bit/512mb card suffers no significant performance hit compared to the 320-bit/640mb version, I don't see Nvidia going backwards on the specs with the newer cards, especially if they continue calling it the 8800gts. Not only will that confuse just about everyone, but will also require a new board design, and possibly changes to the driver on the new card. Furthermore, in the g80 architecture, each ROP cluster contains a subset of the memory controller, so a narrower bus would mean the new gts has less ROP's. If I had to bet on the specs, I would put the new gts at 112 or 128 shaders, but no less memory or narrower bus than the current model.
 
Whatever happens I'm happy with my current 8800GTS (see sig). Its the people thinking of buying now and within the next launch that'll have a hard time trying to figure out what to get.
 
Originally posted by: Skott
The way I look at it is that a person needs a 8800GTS 640 or better. Anything less is just gonna be a letdown. So at least a 8800GTS 640 to play it safe. The downside is not everyone can afford the price. Hopefully ATI can release something spectacular soon to help force nVidia's prices down. I dont see anything on the horizon though unfortunately. :frown:
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Everyone needs at least a 8800GTS 640? For what? Many games that people play day in and out are perfectly playable with 7800/7900 series cards that were released 2 years ago at moderate resolutions.

Not everyone is playing on huge 30 inch monitors at 1920x1200. I'm still on a 17 inch monitor playing on 1024x768 resolution. Quake Wars, a just released game, plays fine on my 7900GS.

Do I NEED an 8800GTS 640MB?

Anyway......I WANT an 8800GT 256MB if those prices are right from fudzilla 😀
 
Originally posted by: Rusin
http://forums.vr-zone.com/showthread.php?t=194422
Rumours change by the day.

This suggest that G92 is fully capable high end chip; G80 done in 65nm + PCI-E2. Since that die shrink and that GT and GTS have both 112SP I'd believe they'll increase clock frequencies on GTS, GTX and Ultra.
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So if these are PCI-E 2, then will I have to upgrade my motherboard to use it or will there be a option like using two power connectors instead of one?
 
PC Surgeon:
If it were "PCI-E2 motherboards"-only it would hurt sales too much.. because there aren't that many people who have PCI-E2 motherboard.
 
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