Question G4560, 8G/16G DDR4-2400, 240GB SSD, maybe some HDD, 4G/8GB RX 570, would this still be a worthwhile gaming box?

VirtualLarry

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Wondering about refurbishing / reformatting some of my older boxes, got a twin set of them. They've been great for mining for nearly a year, holding two GPUs with sufficient clearance between them so that they don't overheat (I ran them open-air, in front of a window with a fan), but now I feel that it's time to put them out to pasture, and clean them up (they're a little dusty), put in some new, fresh, PSUs, take some of the GPUs out, and set them up with 8GB or 16GB of RAM. They have ASRock Z170 ATX boards, some of the first on the market. And last I knew, they could still BCLK OC a locked Skylake CPU, at least, an older one.

Edit: Or, instead of kind of "decking them out" as gaming rigs, (still with the G4560 2C/4T CPU, a little sluggish these days), maybe make them into minimalist "browser boxes"? Maybe 4GB DDR4, leave the used 240GB Kingston SSD (maybe Secure Erase them), activated Win10, take out ALL the GPUs, put in a minimalist PSU, or at least, one that would leave open the possibility of gaming in the future, as this is an ATX box, which isn't ideal size-wise for a browser box only. Part of the problem is, they are in Raidmax Cobra ATX gaming cases, that have a look on the front, "like a transformer", which would probably make an ideal gaming box for some HS kid somewhere.

Maybe in Jan., when I get some more money, get some of those Team Elite DDR4-2400 8GB sticks for $46.99 @ Newegg (currently sold out, for obvious reasons), either 1x or 2x per box, and then throw in the RX 570, and a 2TB WD Blue 5400RPM HDD ($60 worth), and sell them as entry-level Gaming PCs, USED. Maybe I could sell them. The CPU is kind of a weak point, though. It's more suitable for a browser-box. Maybe if I dropped $100 ea., on some i5-6400 Skylake locked quad-cores, and BLCK OCed them on the boards, to 4.0Ghz or higher, and put in 16GB of DDR4. (Genuine quad-core Skylake CPU, RX 570 4GB card, 240GB SSD, 2TB HDD, 16GB RAM? Ok, it's used, but spec-wise, that beats some of the pre-built OEM "gaming" PCs, by a country mile.)

Edit: Wholly Smokes. i5-6400 USED on ebay, is like $200! For that price, I'd get an AM4 rig, with a 2600X and use that instead for a gaming box, and re-use the DDR4 and the RX 570 and SSD, although the Win10 license would be most likely tied to the Z170 mobo, oh well.

Hmm, i5-7600K is BNIB retail sealed from beachcamera on ebay for nearly $300. Would it be worth it to put those into the gaming PCs, before selling them? Would that make the final gaming PC worth $300 more than with a G4560 in it? I would probably think NOT, but maybe some might differ?
 
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whm1974

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I wouldn't go with less then 8GB of memory for a basic web box. For an entry level gaming systems using the Pentium G4560, I'm not sure I would put in anything more powerful then the 1050Ti.

One thing to keep in mind, don't expect a lot of money for these as you could get refurbished i5/i7 prebuilts fairly cheap, and building a quad core entry level maching isn't expensive at all.
 

VirtualLarry

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I wouldn't go with less then 8GB of memory for a basic web box. For an entry level gaming systems using the Pentium G4560, I'm not sure I would put in anything more powerful then the 1050Ti.
I generally keep most of my browser-box builds at 8GB min, but I happened to have a pair of 4GB DDR4-2800 DIMMs, and right now there's one in each box. And HWUnboxed did a YT video, that showed that with the G4560, there were FPS gains to be had, with an RX 570 over a GTX 1050 ti, even at that low a CPU level.

One thing to keep in mind, don't expect a lot of money for these as you could get refurbished i5/i7 prebuilts fairly cheap, and building a quad core entry level maching isn't expensive at all.
Well, I kind of did that the other day.

used/refurb Dell Optiplex 3020 mini-tower (MT) unit, with i5-4570, 4GB DDR3, and 250GB HDD with Win7 Ult COA, and Win10 Pro installed. $160
new 16GB GSkill DDR3-1600 kit (2x8GB) $90-100
new 256GB Silicon Power A55 "Ace" SATA6G 2.5" SSD $35-40
new 2TB WD Blue 5400RPM SATA6G 3.5" HDD $53-60
new EVGA GTX 1050 3GB PCI-E GPU $120-140
fresh Win10 Pro 64-bit (already activated on mobo) $0

total: $500

Could probably fit a DVD-RW into that budget as well, it didn't come with one.

The RX 570 4GB cards are a bit of a weight class above the GTX 1050 3GB, but the G4560 is a bit below an i5-4570, in games, I think. I guess I would expect $350-400 for these boxes, with 16GB DDR4, RX 570 4GB, G4560, 240GB SSD (all used), and a new PSU and HDD. Maybe $450 if I get really lucky, and clean up the dust really well out of the front grill and fan. (Not asking for a price check, just for the viability of these parts as a gaming rig, in 2018/2019. I realize that the CPU is on the low end of the spectrum, but it is upgradeable to an OC'able quad-core Intel Core i5/i7, if really necessary or wanted, but I don't think that the budget allows me to do that before selling it.)

Here's a link to the Raidmax Cobra case, a black / green LED version. Mine is a grey ("Titanium", and blue LED front fan). It has a fairly agressive front, but is roomy inside, decent space and layout. Not really suitable for AIO WC setups though, like more modern cases are.

https://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=9SIA9ZN7B77437&Description=raidmax cobra&cm_re=raidmax_cobra-_-9SIA9ZN7B77437-_-Product
 
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