G1610 vs G2020

[toronado455]

http://ark.intel.com/compare/71072,71070

For a basic machine for just eMail and web browsing only.

Can someone confirm that the Celeron G1610 has integrated graphics support? I'm confused because on the Intel page under "Graphics Specifications" it shows a blue "Yes" only for the Pentium G2020 under "Processor Graphics". (although both chips show "Intel® HD Graphics" under "Graphics Model")

 

[Tsavo]

It has integrated graphics.

 

[Insert_Nickname]

It has an IGP (HD2500). Though all the "fun" parts are disabled...

 

[toronado455]

It has an IGP (HD2500). Though all the "fun" parts are disabled...

I think HD 2500 is only for core i series, not Celerons & Pentiums. I think Celerons & Pentiums have a plain vanilla "HD Graphics" which is different.

 

[SPBHM]

I think HD 2500 is only for core i series, not Celerons & Pentiums. I think Celerons & Pentiums have a plain vanilla "HD Graphics" which is different.

the name is "HD Graphics" only, but it has nothing in common with the old "HD Graphics" from the first gen i3/i5...
it's actually just the HD2500 (for ivy bridge Celerons/Pentiums) with quick sync disabled as far as I know... the same goes for Sandy bridge pentiums (HD 2000)

so 3d performance is basically the same... but the video conversion acceleration is missing.

 

[DominionSeraph]

Just note if you're building a full system, you probably can't beat Dell's price. Dell Outlet is having a 3 day sale right now for 20% off their entire inventory, which means you can get a $289 Inspiron 660s with a Pentium G645 for $231 after coupon code 8tbhws09mkst9l.

 

[Jimzz]

Only real differance is the Pentium has 300mhz more cpu speed and 50% more cache.

If in the budget I would get the pentium.

 

[daveybrat]

The Celeron Ivy-Bridge G1610 will be just fine for web browsing and any general task.

I've built 2 systems with them so far and they are very snappy and quick for the price.

 

[toronado455]

Only real differance is the Pentium has 300mhz more cpu speed and 50% more cache.

If in the budget I would get the pentium.

OK, that's what I thought. It's only $20 more, so it could be do-able, but might not matter for the application, and the $20 might be better spent elsewhere in the system.

 

[toronado455]

The Celeron Ivy-Bridge G1610 will be just fine for web browsing and any general task.

I've built 2 systems with them so far and they are very snappy and quick for the price.

Thanks, it seems like a great bargain for the money.

Also, oddly, the PassMark CPU Mark scores are slightly favoring the Celeron, though probably just a statistical anomaly, and I wouldn't put too much faith in that. But it gives the impression that the advantage of the Pentium isn't going to be perceptible.

 

[StrangerGuy]

Any dual core SB/IB would be vastly overkill for those purpose.

 

[Insert_Nickname]

Any dual core SB/IB would be vastly overkill for those purpose.

Possibly. A Celeron G465 (single core with HT) is just fine for basic web browsing. Just don't open a ton of flash heavy tabs...

 

[Zap]

For a basic machine for just eMail and web browsing only.

Meh. Save the $20 and put it into a small SSD. The computer will then feel more "appliance-like" to the user.

 

[Ken g6]

If you're only doing web browsing and a little email, may I make a completely different suggestion?

Since this is the CPUs forum, that's an NVIDIA® Tegra® 3 quad-core processor.

Or if you want to do a little more typing, how about a "Samsung Exynos 5 Dual Processor"?

 

[Jimzz]

OK, that's what I thought. It's only $20 more, so it could be do-able, but might not matter for the application, and the $20 might be better spent elsewhere in the system.

Yea I would take a G1610 with a SSD over the G2020 and reg platter hard drive.

 

[toronado455]

Thanks. I'm now no longer considering the G2020. Instead, I'm considering the G2120.

Advantages of G2120 over G1610:
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3.1 GHz vs 2.6 GHz
3 MB Cache vs 2 MB Cache
supports 1600 RAM vs 1333 RAM

Also the G2120 has embedded options, but I doubt that would matter for me.

Current pricing where I would likely buy this $35 for the G1610 and $70 for the G2120. So the Pentium is exactly double the price of the Celeron. My question is, are the advantages of the G2120, namely faster clock, more cache, and supporting faster RAM, worth it?

Edit: CPU Mark on the G2120 is 2938, the G1610 CPU Mark is 2657.

 

[Homeles]

For email and web browsing? You'll do fine on the $35 chip.

 

[toronado455]

For email and web browsing? You'll do fine on the $35 chip.

That's true. Though if the system gets re-purposed later on as a file server, NAS box, or something else, might it make a difference?

 

[ElFenix]

That's true. Though if the system gets re-purposed later on as a file server, NAS box, or something else, might it make a difference?

if it's file serving or nas box, no. neither of those is processor heavy.

 

[Magic Carpet]

Any dual core SB/IB would be vastly overkill for those purpose.

Agreed. I was browsing on a P4 631 rig and it was just fine except for 720/1080 YouTube video. Flash games would have struggled too. Anything faster a Conroe is fine. Just avoid Atom.

 

[StrangerGuy]

Agreed. I was browsing on a P4 631 rig and it was just fine except for 720/1080 YouTube video. Flash games would have struggled too. Anything faster a Conroe is fine. Just avoid Atom.

Heh, you should see my boss 1.8GHz XP Sempron box with tech that dates back to 2002 and still using it now. She is one of those who refuses to upgrade out of fear of breaking something in her computing environment, I kid you not.

 

[ShintaiDK]

Since this thread, the G2020 is replaced by the G2030. 100Mhz more, same price.

 

[sm625]

For not much more than $35 you can get a used Intel X25V SSD. I picked one up for $32 shipped a few weeks ago. And for just a little more you can get a X25M. Both of these drives work wonders for a surfing facebook type machine. X25V isnt all that fast for an SSd, but the very fast random accesses make it seem faster than it is. These drives would bring much more tangible results than the those you get from the next higher grade cpu. And the best part is you need not bother with a HDD at all if you store large media elsewhere.

 

[Magic Carpet]

Heh, you should see my boss 1.8GHz XP Sempron box with tech that dates back to 2002 and still using it now. She is one of those who refuses to upgrade out of fear of breaking something in her computing environment, I kid you not.

As long as it works and gets the job done, it's fine. You get used to speed. Fast or slow, it's a relative thing. That's how they think anyway.

When XP was out in 2001, it was super slow for the most people, as hardware was still expensive (many preferred the less cluttered WinNT; many had only ~128 megs of ram, and XP needed at least 384mb to run speedy). Nowadays, you can easily max out Windows 8 with a $400 budget. Good times to experience, actually.

 

[Hubb1e]

Both CPUs are in the same performance ballpark so when one starts to feel slow, both will start to feel slow. Casual users don't really notice when something is 10% slower so it really won't matter either way. When dual core Ivy bridge CPUs start to get overwhelmed by web browsing, you'll need 100% more performance or more for an upgrade, not a few extra mhz. I'd personally get a Pentium at around 3ghz but that's only because I like a little extra speed and the extra few dollars really isn't much of an issue for me, but in general a casual user would have a very tough time telling a difference between the two.