G0 or wait for Penryn

[bryanW1995]

Originally posted by: Nemesis 1
I agree Penryn is good . I will have one . Nehalem is exciting . But will 1st generation Nehalem be that much better than Penryn? Now Intel has flat out said Nehalem C on 32nm is going to be exciting . All the info from intel were their is going to be a hugh performance gains points to 09.
I like the way Intel is handling the info they give out. They said Merom would be great and Penryn would be better.

On nehalem they seem to be saying Nehalem will be better than Penryn but Nehalem C on 32nm will be great, See the differance. I want Nehalem but I will wait for 32nm Nehalem C . and for the first time ever . Use Intel only parts . Nehalem Processor/ Intel M/B and Larrabe. Hopefully DDR4 . Or maybe even better memory . who knows.
Solid state HD's should be way cheaper and better by than I would think.

At this point in time it shouldn't make any differance to anyone if its Intel or AMD that someone buys. As the performance in 2009 should be hugh compared to were we are now from both companies . Were the differances are will be graphics and rendering power.

Who ever has the best Graphics render will get my $$$. Be it Intel or for the first time ever for me AMD. As performance to me won't be an issue. But what I see on my monitor will be the determining factor. Until I see it tho it will be nehalem c but it could be amd.

I find it odd considering intel's tick-tock strategy that they would claim that nehalem c will be more of an improvement than nehalem. Where did you get this info? The jump from pentium d to conroe was enormous. the jump from conroe to penryn appears more and more to be a baby step. why would nehalem be another baby step when it is a completely different architecture but nehalem c will be a huge jump?

 

[apoppin]

Originally posted by: MeSh1
I guess my thinking is if I buy current gen G0 that'll easily hold me over untill Nehalem makes some noise whether it be first gen Nehalem chips or after they mature. Plus i want a system now since a lot of fun games are comin' out this year .

Im thinking:
Not sure if Q6600 or E6750
Gigabyte P35C DS3R
2 or 4 gig's of mem (any suggestions) - Crucial Ballistixs DDR2 800 4-4-4-12?
EVGA 8800 GTS
Some Tuniq Tower 120 action to go with that - hope theres no issue with the mobo

i am wondering why i need G0 now?
-i bought my $114 e4300 as a placeholder back in June for Penryn ... and i am pretty sure i am in still not in any hurry to upgrade ... certainly not for games - it looks like i can even wait for Penryn to drop in price in Q2 before i feel any "need"

Crysis evidently runs fine on a 8800GTS/2900xt and C2D; and i can get a 2900p for cheap Xfired performance - especially if i OC my 4300 a bit more.

is there any compelling reason to upgrade from a C2D to QC ... yet?
--the OP might be also able to get by with a much cheaper [and slightly lesser] C2D and also upgrade at his convenience to Penryn.

 

[Nemesis 1]

Read it in the Idf materials. Because I try to keep up with Intels Process tech . I didn't even give it a thought. When Intel mentioned .It would be intels second generation of High K and metal gates. As I have always expected on the 32nm process that intel would use 3D gates a hugh jump in transitor performance . Also seeing how Intel Wanted to name nehalems second generation Nethalem C I assume there will be changes to the core logic( same happened with penryn) and softeware . Compiler for instance . . Ondie larrabee core . Very doable @ 32nm . not so easy @ 45nm. What has me puzzled about nehalem C with the core configuration I just mentioned is How Intel will configure memory .Maybe each one of larrabe 16 mini cores will have its own memory attached as was shown in the tera scale project. Just not enough info . Intel is really guarding the larrabe project compared to others. For both intel and AMD with Ondie graphics . Memory has always been the puzzle . Everthing else on a moduler designed cpu isn't a big deal till we get to the ondie graphics core . Were the memory problem rears its ugly head. If you recall befor it was publicly known I mentioned in threads here that Intel would introduce High K and metal gates at 45nm. Surprized almost everyone but me. When it was announced . Viditor even debated me on the subject. In the end after the hardware is announced I win about 90% of the debates. But durring the debates I get hammered hard by narrow minded people. In tech one must be open minded or one gets slapped hard by new tech announcements.

When Ibm debutes its High K on 45 I suspect it will out perform intels . As I suspect IBM will use dual metal gates FinFet. Maybe IBM will try to introduce 3D gates at 45nm. But more than likely dual gates. One memory company can't recall the name has already done dual gates on DDR3 memory.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Trigate_transistors

http://www.pennwellblogs.com/s...s-race-to-be-intel.php

http://www.guru3d.com/newsitem.php?id=5925


Describing other innovations, Otellini showed the world's first 300mm wafer built using next-generation 32nm process technology. Intel's 32nm test chips incorporate logic and memory (SRAM) to house more than 1.9 billion transistors. The 32nm process uses the company's second-generation high-k and metal gate transistor technology.

Even tho Otellini doesn't say 3D gates . Why would he . He just states 2nd generation.

If you read the first link Intel won't announce its 3D gates until just before Nehalem C is released.

http://www.intel.com/technolog...-gate-demonstrated.htm


http://www.news.com/Intel-unfu...100-1001_3-958149.html