G.W. kills em better than Saudi terrorists

[chazzheatherly]

The death toll for bush's private war:
US dead now exceeds war dead since bush declared "victory"
don't quote me here - 115 dead from war, 118 dead since Bushy-Bush
said everything was fine, from the deck of that carrier.
How many more dead sons and daughters you gonna put in a bodybag, George W?
I think we need to re-connect with our 60's predecessors. They had some nice songs.

 

[DoubleL]

I have been in war and I can tell you haven't and don't even understand what you are talking about, It will take as many as it takes, If we back out now you will see a body count like no one has ever seen and it won't be soldiers and it will be in this country

 

[CaptnKirk]

Heres a song I remember that the Army Troops used to sing in Viet Nam back in the 60's:

"Your son got killed in Viet Nam
Do da, Do da
Your son got killed in Viet Nam
Just the other day"
"Tried to fight all night
Tried to fight all day
Couldn't fight a mortar round
it blew his sh!t away"

Catchy tune isn't it ? That was one sung by the 1st Cav 2nd/7th,
when they came back in from the field after a fire-fight.

There were many more that make that one seem light-hearted, Grim humor in those circumstances.

 

[VioletAura]

Originally posted by: DoubleL
I have been in war and I can tell you haven't and don't even understand what you are talking about, It will take as many as it takes, If we back out now you will see a body count like no one has ever seen and it won't be soldiers and it will be in this country

WTF?
Do you think the Iraqis will regroup and launch an all out attack on the US or something?
I think you still got a piece of a "war trophy" still stuck in your head, old and grizzled one.

 

[Witling]

DoubleL. Your argument is the same as I heard in Viet Nam. Eventually we were forced to leave. We'll be forced to leave in Iraq too. But, I don't blame George Bush personally. I have a really warm spot in my heart for all the Democratic senators who caved and wrote George and the Administration a blank check to go to war.

 

[Flyermax2k3]

Originally posted by: DoubleL
I have been in war and I can tell you haven't and don't even understand what you are talking about, It will take as many as it takes, If we back out now you will see a body count like no one has ever seen and it won't be soldiers and it will be in this country

The original poster is making his statements based on the assumption that the premise for this war is unethical and immoral. You have to take that into account when responding to him. If you disagree, that's fine. Just understand that he (and many others) are moral objectors to this war. Of course, no one has a time machine to turn back time and stop this from occurring, but that doesn't mean we can't change the present/future.

 

[rufruf44]

Originally posted by: chazzheatherly
The death toll for bush's private war:
US dead now exceeds war dead since bush declared "victory"
don't quote me here - 115 dead from war, 118 dead since Bushy-Bush
said everything was fine, from the deck of that carrier.
How many more dead sons and daughters you gonna put in a bodybag, George W?
I think we need to re-connect with our 60's predecessors. They had some nice songs.

Lets see, sacrifices by those 333 courageous men & women resulted in liberation of millions of people who lived under a diabolical tyrant who massacres tens of thousands of his own people. I thinks its a sacrifice well made.

 

[Red Dawn]

Originally posted by: rufruf44

Originally posted by: chazzheatherly
The death toll for bush's private war:
US dead now exceeds war dead since bush declared "victory"
don't quote me here - 115 dead from war, 118 dead since Bushy-Bush
said everything was fine, from the deck of that carrier.
How many more dead sons and daughters you gonna put in a bodybag, George W?
I think we need to re-connect with our 60's predecessors. They had some nice songs.

Lets see, sacrifices by those 333 courageous men & women resulted in liberation of millions of people who lived under a diabolical tyrant who massacres tens of thousands of his own people. I thinks its a sacrifice well made.

Too bad that wasn't the reason we were told why we had to invade Iraq. All well, the ends justify the means so what's the harm in a little lie told to the American Public?

 

[DukeFan21]

How can people possibly compare this situation to Vietnam when we have been there for only a few months?

 

[CaptnKirk]

"How can people possibly compare this situation to Vietnam when we have been there for only a few months?"

Easy - it's called Government meddling, Administration lying, Dis-information, and Distortion of the facts.
The Bush people are even more arrogant in their cavaleir attitude than either Johnson's or Nixon's were - even when combined.

This time it's on a bigger scale, and we haven't even been involve as long.
The Falsifications of Vietnam were barely evident until after 1968, and became even
more glaring as time went on and the powers that be had their facade stripped away.

And we've been on the ground longer than you are led to think - we had operatives working in Northern Iraq (Kurdish areas)
protected by the 'No-Fly Zones' for months before the 'Official' start of the movement of the War Machinery,
From January 2003

We had for many previous months been taking out anything that remotely looked like it had a military target value.
Containing Iraq

 

[Witling]

RufRuf44, your statement, "Lets see, sacrifices by those 333 courageous men & women resulted in liberation of millions of people who lived under a diabolical tyrant who massacres tens of thousands of his own people. I thinks its a sacrifice well made. " Is a no brainer. The vast, vast, overwhelming portion of the Iraqi people had little to do with the government or oppression, just as you probably have little to do with the government here. They did have a working infrastructure and security. That vast vast majority doesn't have that now. And with your logic, how can we resist going to North Korea? You will never see us in North Korea.

 

[DoubleL]

I know all about Veit Nam, Was in the 2-14 Golden Dragons, No this isn't like Nam in anyway, They didn't try to kill our people in this country and about them loveable peace marchers of the 60's, They were trash that got 1000's of young men killed over their, I can't remeber what the body count was when they were ready to give it up but when they saw all the protest they knew all they had to do was hold out and kill as many soldiers as they could and we would have to pull out as we did, Like I said if we lose this war it won't be like Nam,

 

[CaptnKirk]

Think that what might have got all them them peaceniks rilled up might have been tweaked
by the prowness of the Nat Guard at Kent State ? Really got on a roll when that happened.
Just another tentacle of the octopus of war.

I don't blame TET '68 on Jane Fonda or the Berkely-ites, I blame the Political powers of
both North Viet Nam, as well as our own - along with the South Viet Nam policy,
The hippies didn't send 'em there, our elected leaders did.
My say was but 1 vote.

 

[UCSDHappyAsian]

yep yep... in a way, we cant blame the death on Bush though...
its either we declare a war or we dont declare a war on Iraq....
Since we declared the war, we are responsible to make sure Iraq is not in a total chaos when we take off........
We are the most-hated nation by a lot foreign countries and organizations, and more anti-Americans voice would arise if we simply take off from Iraq....



Now, i seriously just hope that Saddam truely had something to do with 9-1-1.... If Saddam did not participated in 9-1-1 expect "LOL", our president better come up with something more significant evidents.....

Anyways, I do think Saddam has something to do with 9-1-1.... hehe

 

[fwtong]

Originally posted by: UCSDHappyAsian
yep yep... in a way, we cant blame the death on Bush though...
its either we declare a war or we dont declare a war on Iraq....
Since we declared the war, we are responsible to make sure Iraq is not in a total chaos when we take off........
We are the most-hated nation by a lot foreign countries and organizations, and more anti-Americans voice would arise if we simply take off from Iraq....



Now, i seriously just hope that Saddam truely had something to do with 9-1-1.... If Saddam did not participated in 9-1-1 expect "LOL", our president better come up with something more significant evidents.....

Anyways, I do think Saddam has something to do with 9-1-1.... hehe

We didn't declare war... only Congress can declare war on another nation. This is just a "police action."

 

[LilBlinbBlahIce]

Originally posted by: UCSDHappyAsian
yep yep... in a way, we cant blame the death on Bush though...
its either we declare a war or we dont declare a war on Iraq....
Since we declared the war, we are responsible to make sure Iraq is not in a total chaos when we take off........
We are the most-hated nation by a lot foreign countries and organizations, and more anti-Americans voice would arise if we simply take off from Iraq....



Now, i seriously just hope that Saddam truely had something to do with 9-1-1.... If Saddam did not participated in 9-1-1 expect "LOL", our president better come up with something more significant evidents.....

Anyways, I do think Saddam has something to do with 9-1-1.... hehe

Bush and others have already said Saddam had nothing to do with 9/11, we invaded for WMDs and it seems that he didn't have those either, so there is really no reason left to why we should have invaded. Liberating the Iraqi people is BS, it was just sugar coating to make the war pill easier to swallow.

 

[LilBlinbBlahIce]

Originally posted by: DoubleL
I have been in war and I can tell you haven't and don't even understand what you are talking about, It will take as many as it takes, If we back out now you will see a body count like no one has ever seen and it won't be soldiers and it will be in this country

How would we see a body count on our shores unlike any other if we pull out? Iraq never attacked us directly or for that matter, ever even really posed a threat to us.

 

[fwtong]

Originally posted by: LilBlinbBlahIce

Originally posted by: DoubleL
I have been in war and I can tell you haven't and don't even understand what you are talking about, It will take as many as it takes, If we back out now you will see a body count like no one has ever seen and it won't be soldiers and it will be in this country

How would we see a body count on our shores unlike any other if we pull out? Iraq never attacked us directly or for that matter, ever even really posed a threat to us.

What about the weapons of mass destruction that Saddam was going to give to the terrorists? What about al-Quida? What about a nuke in the middle of Manhatten? What about OUR freedoms?

Oh yeah, none of that has absolutely nothing to do with Iraq.

 

[LilBlinbBlahIce]

Originally posted by: fwtong

Originally posted by: LilBlinbBlahIce

Originally posted by: DoubleL
I have been in war and I can tell you haven't and don't even understand what you are talking about, It will take as many as it takes, If we back out now you will see a body count like no one has ever seen and it won't be soldiers and it will be in this country

How would we see a body count on our shores unlike any other if we pull out? Iraq never attacked us directly or for that matter, ever even really posed a threat to us.

What about the weapons of mass destruction that Saddam was going to give to the terrorists? What about al-Quida? What about a nuke in the middle of Manhatten? What about OUR freedoms?

Oh yeah, none of that has absolutely nothing to do with Iraq.

 

[LilBlinbBlahIce]

dp

 

[Mean MrMustard]

Originally posted by: DoubleL
I know all about Veit Nam, Was in the 2-14 Golden Dragons, No this isn't like Nam in anyway, They didn't try to kill our people in this country and about them loveable peace marchers of the 60's, They were trash that got 1000's of young men killed over their, I can't remeber what the body count was when they were ready to give it up but when they saw all the protest they knew all they had to do was hold out and kill as many soldiers as they could and we would have to pull out as we did, Like I said if we lose this war it won't be like Nam,

When did Iraq try to kill people in this country?

and about them loveable peace marchers of the 60's, They were trash that got 1000's of young men killed over their

Wow! So protesting war causes death? Nevermind the politicians that sent them to war, how could they be at fault?

Please...

 

[chess9]

DoubleL:

I'd be interested in hearing your theory about how the peaceniks caused the deaths of 1000s of American soldiers in Vietnam. Why don't you post the facts in support of that argument?

-Robert, USMC, retired.

 

[burnedout]

Originally posted by: chazzheatherly
The death toll for bush's private war:
US dead now exceeds war dead since bush declared "victory"
don't quote me here - 115 dead from war, 118 dead since Bushy-Bush
said everything was fine, from the deck of that carrier.
How many more dead sons and daughters you gonna put in a bodybag, George W?
I think we need to re-connect with our 60's predecessors. They had some nice songs.

Therein lies the problem. What's really missing is the enthusiastic brand of political activisim that was prevalent during the 60's.

As a society, we have become far too complacent in comparison with our 60's forefathers. While information, both good and bad, can now be more easily obtained, what are we doing with it? Posting relevant interpretations thereof on bulletin boards?

No, the real problem is that people won't get up off their lazy asses and become involved with causes they believe in.

 

[roboninja]

What about the weapons of mass destruction that Saddam was going to give to the terrorists? What about al-Quida? What about a nuke in the middle of Manhatten? What about OUR freedoms?

Nothing here has ever been remotely proven. Even GWB will not say so. Iraq had essentially nothing to do with Al-Qaeda or terrorism on the USA. Now the USA's buddies Saudi Arabia, on the other hand, seem to have quite a bit to do with it. But they have all the oil, and GWB makes money off of them, so they will be left alone.

 

[Gaard]

Originally posted by: DoubleL
I know all about Veit Nam, Was in the 2-14 Golden Dragons, No this isn't like Nam in anyway, They didn't try to kill our people in this country and about them loveable peace marchers of the 60's, They were trash that got 1000's of young men killed over their, I can't remeber what the body count was when they were ready to give it up but when they saw all the protest they knew all they had to do was hold out and kill as many soldiers as they could and we would have to pull out as we did, Like I said if we lose this war it won't be like Nam,

How can we take anything you say seriously when you say things like this?